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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby QuikSilver on Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:00 am

Serbia wrote:I've grown to mostly hate the clan scene on CC. I love the people in my clan, especially the ones who've been around for many years. But the clan scene, and all the petty drama that goes with it, I've got very little patience for.

This is the opinion of Serbia the CC user, not Serbia the Tournament Director.

Bollocks.


You don't talk about it, but you add a point, the tournament scene, that keeps interest if you don't want to get involve too much in a clan.

And tournament are very accessible.
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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby Serbia on Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:36 am

QuikSilver wrote:
Serbia wrote:I've grown to mostly hate the clan scene on CC. I love the people in my clan, especially the ones who've been around for many years. But the clan scene, and all the petty drama that goes with it, I've got very little patience for.

This is the opinion of Serbia the CC user, not Serbia the Tournament Director.

Bollocks.


You don't talk about it, but you add a point, the tournament scene, that keeps interest if you don't want to get involve too much in a clan.

And tournament are very accessible.


You're absolutely right. When I bought my first premium membership (for $20 back in March of 2007) it was so I could join tournaments. Since then I've been involved in tourneys throughout my time here on CC. In fact, of my 4,473 completed games, 3,926 (roughly 88%) of them are tournament games.

Bollocks.
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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby Arama86n on Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:19 am

We heard you the first time qwert, but not every clan is playing in CL5.
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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby Qwert on Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:41 am

Arama86n wrote:We heard you the first time qwert, but not every clan is playing in CL5.


then why people repeat, like they not heard good?
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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby Leehar on Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:39 pm

I had an interesting discussions with Cav earlier. Apparently TSM have 30k posts in their forum (as a barometer, thats more than we have in Announcements :shock: )

I know at Empire we had only made it to 20k, it'd be interesting to hear what other clans have as an indication of activity levels
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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby IcePack on Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:01 pm

Leehar wrote:I had an interesting discussions with Cav earlier. Apparently TSM have 30k posts in their forum (as a barometer, thats more than we have in Announcements :shock: )

I know at Empire we had only made it to 20k, it'd be interesting to hear what other clans have as an indication of activity levels


How long / posts would be interesting as well. 30k compared to 20k but which started up before the other and how long where they around.

Example:
the Fallen started June 2012, and have 8,500 posts. 13 month / 8,500 post = (avg) 650+ post per month.
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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:25 pm

We should invite players to clan wars via email that haven`t played on the site in a while and start the games without them ever logging in. That would be more accessible.
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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby IcePack on Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:09 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:We should invite players to clan wars via email that haven`t played on the site in a while and start the games without them ever logging in. That would be more accessible.


You mean tournaments?
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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby Bones2484 on Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:24 pm

Leehar wrote:I had an interesting discussions with Cav earlier. Apparently TSM have 30k posts in their forum (as a barometer, thats more than we have in Announcements :shock: )

I know at Empire we had only made it to 20k, it'd be interesting to hear what other clans have as an indication of activity levels


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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:26 pm

11,800 for KORT... Now if you count all the MSN / Skype time ugh.. I am sure you triple that at least
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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby angola on Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:40 pm

Agents of Chaos had 17k from 2008-13.
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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby patrickaa317 on Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:00 pm

TFFS has you all beat.

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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby Lindax on Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:31 pm

QuikSilver wrote:
Serbia wrote:I've grown to mostly hate the clan scene on CC. I love the people in my clan, especially the ones who've been around for many years. But the clan scene, and all the petty drama that goes with it, I've got very little patience for.

This is the opinion of Serbia the CC user, not Serbia the Tournament Director.

Bollocks.


You don't talk about it, but you add a point, the tournament scene, that keeps interest if you don't want to get involve too much in a clan.

And tournament are very accessible.


I mostly agree with the above. I got fed up with the clan scene long ago. Not so much because of the Clan Department and/or CDs, but because of the users. The "petty drama" remark pretty much hits the spot.

I think the tournament scene does a lot more for CC and it's members. Not so much because of the Tournament Department and it's leadership, but because of the users. Many CC members love to play and/or organize tournaments. It's what got me hooked to CC in the first place. And it could be even more exciting and attractive, with a more vibrant, pro-active and enthusiastic Department Head.

Note: The above paragraph is not to be mistaken for flaming or the such. NS already knows what my opinion about the Tournament Department is and I'm purely stating my point of view, and it's nothing personal.

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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby Foxglove on Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:55 pm

I only stick around CC because of my clan.

I do loathe the petty drama, but I guess since I'm still here I enjoy my clan mates and the camaraderie more than I hate the spurts of drama.

I do think that the increasing activity of the clan world has has a detrimental effect on the tournament scene. I don't know about 1v1 type games because I don't play them, but there are far, far less of the large, epic, and interesting doubles/triples/quads tournaments. Whenever there are team tournaments now, they always seem to be of the "1 map, win 3 games" variety.
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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:58 pm

Foxglove wrote:I only stick around CC because of my clan.

I do loathe the petty drama, but I guess since I'm still here I enjoy my clan mates and the camaraderie more than I hate the spurts of drama.

I do think that the increasing activity of the clan world has has a detrimental effect on the tournament scene. I don't know about 1v1 type games because I don't play them, but there are far, far less of the large, epic, and interesting doubles/triples/quads tournaments. Whenever there are team tournaments now, they always seem to be of the "1 map, win 3 games" variety.



I am soon to run another one with some complexity.. Not sure if you remember AndrewB's tournaments, but I hope to run something close to that.
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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby Gilligan on Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:08 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
Leehar wrote:I had an interesting discussions with Cav earlier. Apparently TSM have 30k posts in their forum (as a barometer, thats more than we have in Announcements :shock: )

I know at Empire we had only made it to 20k, it'd be interesting to hear what other clans have as an indication of activity levels


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More than Callouts

All of our recent in-clan-forum war threads almost beat how much TFFS has altogether. :?
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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby Lindax on Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:15 pm

Foxglove wrote:I only stick around CC because of my clan.

I do loathe the petty drama, but I guess since I'm still here I enjoy my clan mates and the camaraderie more than I hate the spurts of drama.

I do think that the increasing activity of the clan world has has a detrimental effect on the tournament scene. I don't know about 1v1 type games because I don't play them, but there are far, far less of the large, epic, and interesting doubles/triples/quads tournaments. Whenever there are team tournaments now, they always seem to be of the "1 map, win 3 games" variety.


I think it's the other way around: The lethargic and unexciting way the Tournament Department is run, makes people come to the clan scene. There are much more interesting tournaments going on in the clan world than in the tournament part of the site. Plus the added bonus of hanging out with like-minded people is always a plus. I remember the good old days I ran Lx Doubles Series tournaments. You'd always get a core group of teams fighting it out every tournament. Kinda like hanging out with like-minded people. Don't see much of that anymore in tournament scene....

I went to the clan scene to run a tournament. Go figure, I'm not even in a clan....

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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby mcshanester29 on Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:12 pm

Lindax wrote:
Foxglove wrote:I only stick around CC because of my clan.

I do loathe the petty drama, but I guess since I'm still here I enjoy my clan mates and the camaraderie more than I hate the spurts of drama.

I do think that the increasing activity of the clan world has has a detrimental effect on the tournament scene. I don't know about 1v1 type games because I don't play them, but there are far, far less of the large, epic, and interesting doubles/triples/quads tournaments. Whenever there are team tournaments now, they always seem to be of the "1 map, win 3 games" variety.


I think it's the other way around: The lethargic and unexciting way the Tournament Department is run, makes people come to the clan scene. There are much more interesting tournaments going on in the clan world than in the tournament part of the site. Plus the added bonus of hanging out with like-minded people is always a plus. I remember the good old days I ran Lx Doubles Series tournaments. You'd always get a core group of teams fighting it out every tournament. Kinda like hanging out with like-minded people. Don't see much of that anymore in tournament scene....

I went to the clan scene to run a tournament. Go figure, I'm not even in a clan....

Lx


Yes we get it!!! The TD department is terrible, we are all boring and drive people to the clan world :roll: ....as a TO I have found it no less or more exciting in the past 2-3 years. Some tournaments are really a lot of fun and some are not. Some are basic and some are more intricate. Some are more exciting and yet some are not.Sometimes you have 50 tournaments open for signups sometimes you only have 25. Its your right to criticize and all, but really its the same stuff you have posted over and over...you don't agree with how the TD's are doing there jobs we get it!!...can we move on now??

On a happier not..I am Glad you found your place in the clan world =D>

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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby IcePack on Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:19 pm

Large tournaments have nearly gone away since the new large team tournament rules were put in place.
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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby patrickaa317 on Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:32 pm

IcePack wrote:Large tournaments have nearly gone away since the new large team tournament rules were put in place.


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Re: How many players use clans?

Postby Lindax on Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:43 pm

mcshanester29 wrote:
Lindax wrote:
Foxglove wrote:I only stick around CC because of my clan.

I do loathe the petty drama, but I guess since I'm still here I enjoy my clan mates and the camaraderie more than I hate the spurts of drama.

I do think that the increasing activity of the clan world has has a detrimental effect on the tournament scene. I don't know about 1v1 type games because I don't play them, but there are far, far less of the large, epic, and interesting doubles/triples/quads tournaments. Whenever there are team tournaments now, they always seem to be of the "1 map, win 3 games" variety.


I think it's the other way around: The lethargic and unexciting way the Tournament Department is run, makes people come to the clan scene. There are much more interesting tournaments going on in the clan world than in the tournament part of the site. Plus the added bonus of hanging out with like-minded people is always a plus. I remember the good old days I ran Lx Doubles Series tournaments. You'd always get a core group of teams fighting it out every tournament. Kinda like hanging out with like-minded people. Don't see much of that anymore in tournament scene....

I went to the clan scene to run a tournament. Go figure, I'm not even in a clan....

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Yes we get it!!! The TD department is terrible, we are all boring and drive people to the clan world :roll: ....as a TO I have found it no less or more exciting in the past 2-3 years. Some tournaments are really a lot of fun and some are not. Some are basic and some are more intricate. Some are more exciting and yet some are not.Sometimes you have 50 tournaments open for signups sometimes you only have 25. Its your right to criticize and all, but really its the same stuff you have posted over and over...you don't agree with how the TD's are doing there jobs we get it!!...can we move on now??

On a happier not..I am Glad you found your place in the clan world =D>

Oh yes and apparently it has to be said "This post is not meant to flame or bait, I am just stating my personal view"


I guess you don't get it!!!! I guess you're taking it personal.

No, you are not all boring.

Where have I ever said that I don't agree with how the TDs do their jobs? I think the TDs are doing a good job with the tools and leadership they have.

My beef is with the leadership of the Tournament Department and specifically that leadership being lethargic and basically not doing much for the tournament section of CC. Do I have to bring up the New Tournament Handbook again (for example)? Supposedly being written and finished when I was still a TD? I will keep posting over and over again. It's all I can do to maybe one day see something change.... Believe it or not, I still care very much for the tournament world on CC. And it could be so much better and exciting.

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Postby Lindax on Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:48 pm

IcePack wrote:Large tournaments have nearly gone away since the new large team tournament rules were put in place.


I wrote those rules. There is nothing in there to prevent large tournaments.

There were never many large team tournaments before the rules came into effect.

I think you may be wrongly using the term "Large Team Tournaments". The rules are for tournaments with large teams, not for large tournaments.

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Postby Foxglove on Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:10 am

Lindax wrote:
Foxglove wrote:I only stick around CC because of my clan.

I do loathe the petty drama, but I guess since I'm still here I enjoy my clan mates and the camaraderie more than I hate the spurts of drama.

I do think that the increasing activity of the clan world has has a detrimental effect on the tournament scene. I don't know about 1v1 type games because I don't play them, but there are far, far less of the large, epic, and interesting doubles/triples/quads tournaments. Whenever there are team tournaments now, they always seem to be of the "1 map, win 3 games" variety.


I think it's the other way around: The lethargic and unexciting way the Tournament Department is run, makes people come to the clan scene. There are much more interesting tournaments going on in the clan world than in the tournament part of the site. Plus the added bonus of hanging out with like-minded people is always a plus. I remember the good old days I ran Lx Doubles Series tournaments. You'd always get a core group of teams fighting it out every tournament. Kinda like hanging out with like-minded people. Don't see much of that anymore in tournament scene....


Maybe it just depends on your perspective. :) Before KORT formed, and when we were still new and not constantly participating in multiple events, I feel like I played in quite a few big, fun tournaments. AndrewB's doubles league, quite a few fun quads tournaments that were themed on multiple maps (Credit Crunch [awesome job, Pedronicus!], Cruise, Mixed Maps, etc.). Bruce and I ran a large multi-map tournament. Your TLO tournaments. I remember thinking there were often good team tournaments to join, but then people stopped playing in them as more and more exciting clan events came into being (Conqueror's Cup, Clan League, and all of the others).

And now, whenever I check out the tournament section, I almost never see anything like those. I don't find the idea of playing in a single map 3 round tournament all that exciting (though it can be fun sometimes), and I miss the big tournaments. :)
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