CL5-MVP (not official) [PL-M/R] [SL--???] [TL--Ltiyank]

[iAmCaffeine]

I was kidding cuz I knew pearl was trolling in a jokey capacity, jeez. Get over yourself caffeine.
I was serious in the middle there about qwert's use of "kills" as a legitimate ranking system in team games.

I don't like you, you don't like me, so I think it's time you moved on and stop attempting to troll me. Eh? I know it's too much to ask, but you could at least... try. (You asked me to take you off my foe list and I assumed it meant you were going to be a good little boy. Back to the naughty step!)

...

Hahahaha! I was making a light joke in reference to something Foxglove said which I found amusing. Lighten up.

[chemefreak]

Screw all of you. I'm giving myself the MVP for all three leagues After all, I was undefeated in the Premier and Third Leagues

[chapcrap]

Screw all of you. I'm giving myself the MVP for all three leagues After all, I was undefeated in the Premier and Third Leagues

Yeah, but zero kills.

[cooldeals]

So obviously this will be decided by the Clan and TO Mods who organize this but a little friendly discussion seems fine.

It seems the two most obvious candidates to me for the PL MVP are josko.ri (28/34 82%) and Swifte (42/59 71%)

josko.ri
Total Games played 34
Total Games won 28 - 82%
Home 15/17 (88%)
Away 13/17 (76%)
Total Maps Played 27
Escalating: 6/7 86%
Flat Rate: 0/1 0%
Nuclear: 12/13 92%
No Spoils 10/13 77%
Chained: 12/16 75%
Adjacent 1/2 50%
Unlimited: 15/16 94%

Dubs 4/5 80%
City Mogul W
Dawn of Ages W
Imperium Romanum W
Knights L
Treasures of Galapagos W

Trips 10/12 (83%)
Antartica L
Baltic Crusades L
Chinese Checkers W
Classic Cities: London W
Conquer 4 W
Conquer Man W
Das Schloss W
First Nations Americas W
WWII Australia W
WWII Europe W
Waterloo W
Woodboro W

Quads 14/17 82%
All Your Base Are Belong To Us W
Antartica 2W
Atlantis L
Battle of Acitum W
Classic Cities: Pot Motsbi 2W
Conquer Man: W
First Nations Americas: W
Fractured America: W
Hive L
Pearl Harbor W
Stalingrad W
Supermax: Prison Riot 1W 1L
Waterloo W
World 2.1 W

Swifte
Total Games played 59
Total Games won 42 - 71%
Home 20/30 (67%)
Away 22/29 (76%)
Total Maps Played 52
Escalating: 10/14 71%
Flat Rate: 1/1 100%
Nuclear: 7/11 92%
No Spoils 24/33 73%
Chained: 33/46 72%
Adjacent 7/10 70%
Unlimited: 2/3 67%

Dubs 9/13 69%%
AOR1 L
Austerlitz W
BeNeLux W
Clandemonium W
Conquer 4 W
Eastern Hemisphere W
Europe 1914 W
Macedonia W
South America W
Space L
Three Kingdoms of Korea 1W 1L
Unification Italy L

Trips 17/19 (89%)
Battle of Acitum W
Classic Cities: Sydney W
Cuban Missle Crisis W
Egypt Valley of the Kings W
Eurasia W
Halloween Hallows W
Hive W
Island of Doom W
Lunar War W
Middle Ages W
New Zealand W
Philadelphia L
San Fransisco W
Steamworks W
Tribal War - Florida W
WWII Ardennes W
WWII Europe W
Waterloo L

Quads 16/27 59%
Austerlitz W
Baltic Crusades W
Brazil W
Chinese Checkers W
Cricket 1W 1L
D-Day: Omaha Beach L
Forbidden City W
Fractured America W
Germany W
Hive W
Iberia L
Land and Sea L
Macedonia L
Monsters L
Napoleonic Europe W
Rail Africa W
Rail Asia L
Rail Australia L
Rorke's Drift W
Solar System L
Stalingrad W
Supermax: Prison Riot W
WWII Europe L
WWII Gazala W
World 2.1 1W 1L

josko.ri v Swifte 1-1 (Swifte was on the only team to defeat josko with unlimited reinforcements)

After all that I really don't know who to choose.

Yet there is definitively a disparity in the amount and type of games played. Swifte played almost twice as many maps, played on many away games that were highly luck based, played in more games and somehow pulled 42 wins by far the most of anyone in the premier league.

So I guess it all depends on your definition of Most "Valuable" Player. I wish I had both on my team.

jokso won a whopping 82% of his games including 27% of his clans wins and led his clan to a championship.
Swifte played in 42% of IA's wins, organized all their games and led them to #2 in the league.

josko seems to be the easiest case to defend. His clan won clan league and he has the highest win %. Still I don't think it'd be unreasonable for the CD's and TO's to throw Swifte the award if they consider his value to IA v. josko's value to KORT. I think in that regard if you removed Swifte from this event you would see a more drastic difference (value) v removing josko. Also, Swifte played a lot more luck based maps which in itself is a sacrifice for your team.

Let's see who wins. I'm sure there are other great candidates too, but I can't take any more time for my curiosity. I'm crossing my fingers that these two clans never merge!

[IcePack]

Wait, josko lost at hive quads? :O

[benga]

Wait, josko lost at hive quads? :O

damn I will not the first one

[chemefreak]

josko.ri is the Premier League MVP.

[Qwert]

cooldeals,this its not official mvp,, and your post its in wrong topic, because here CD and TO not decide who are MVP,,,, because they topic are -CL5 Premier League.

[chemefreak]

cooldeals,this its not official mvp,, and your post its in wrong topic, because here CD and TO not decide who are MVP,,,, because they topic are -CL5 Premier League.

he already posted in correct forum...please let us know how we are all wrong for picking josko...

[Qwert]

cooldeals,this its not official mvp,, and your post its in wrong topic, because here CD and TO not decide who are MVP,,,, because they topic are -CL5 Premier League.

he already posted in correct forum...please let us know how we are all wrong for picking josko...

sorry, but i will not be provoke by you, to comment your decisions for MVP.
In PM with CD,i take gentlemen agreement to not comment official way ,or how you decide MVP.

friendly suggestion removed

[Armandolas]

because its you who suggested ..the suggestion is rejected

[Qwert]

because its you who suggested ..the suggestion is rejected

probably you are right, who im i to suggest anything,, so i edit and remove this part of post.

[Armandolas]

come on i was just joking..dont be a drama queen..it was a good suggestion

[BoganGod]

come on i was just joking..dont be a drama queen..it was a good suggestion

There you go again mandy, trying to get everyone to betray their true nature. Stop being omnivores eat bland fake meat..... etc. Asking qwert to tone down his/her over the top dramatic reactions? Are you serious? Will be requesting fish avoid water next I'm sure.

[ViperOverLord]

You might have missed it because he left the site/clan; but Thrawn101 was 12-2 (86%), which beats Ltiyank's 13-4 (76%).

[Keefie]

You might have missed it because he left the site/clan; but Thrawn101 was 12-2 (86%), which beats Ltiyank's 13-4 (76%).

I think Qwert set a minimum game count of 15, not that it really matters.

[ViperOverLord]

You might have missed it because he left the site/clan; but Thrawn101 was 12-2 (86%), which beats Ltiyank's 13-4 (76%).

I think Qwert set a minimum game count of 15, not that it really matters.

Yea, I was just thinking that. But even if you gave him an auto loss for the 15th game, his percent would still be better.

[Keefie]

You might have missed it because he left the site/clan; but Thrawn101 was 12-2 (86%), which beats Ltiyank's 13-4 (76%).

I think Qwert set a minimum game count of 15, not that it really matters.

Yea, I was just thinking that. But even if you gave him an auto loss for the 15th game, his percent would still be better.

There are probably some who played even fewer who have a higher win %, but as thelord was the 3rd league MVP this is just a sideshow.

[ViperOverLord]

You might have missed it because he left the site/clan; but Thrawn101 was 12-2 (86%), which beats Ltiyank's 13-4 (76%).

I think Qwert set a minimum game count of 15, not that it really matters.

Yea, I was just thinking that. But even if you gave him an auto loss for the 15th game, his percent would still be better.

There are probably some who played even fewer who have a higher win %, but as thelord was the 3rd league MVP this is just a sideshow.

Yes - brakh and kchalot in my clan were both 100%. But if you fill in their remaining games to 15, they would no longer have the best percent. If you can fill in the remaining games to 15 and still have the top percent, then that is MVP by that calculation, imo.

[Shannon Apple]

why is there an unofficial one when there is an official one?

[Keefie]

why is there an unofficial one when there is an official one?

Ask Qwert

[Qwert]

like i say in mine gentlemen agreement with CD via PM, i will not comment about hes work,

Instead that they focus on CL6, and do everything that this be prepared and execute in best way, they still waste hes time to comment mine work in clans.

For me its good that still left majority of people who appreciate mine work in CL5, so they can continue to waste time on commenting here,, but mine suggestion its to start work on implementation and adjustment for CL6.

If they want to go on easy way, to continue with mine format,, im ok with that, but even i will make improvements and more implementations toward promotion and relegation system, because i belive that every next CL need to be better and better,,instead to waste time on comments here.
But if they think its important to do that,, ok.

If some of CD think that i write something negative about them,please send me PM, and i will edit this post, to be ok.

[Shannon Apple]

like i say in mine gentlemen agreement with CD via PM, i will not comment about hes work,

Instead that they focus on CL6, and do everything that this be prepared and execute in best way, they still waste hes time to comment mine work in clans.

For me its good that still left majority of people who appreciate mine work in CL5, so they can continue to waste time on commenting here,, but mine suggestion its to start work on implementation and adjustment for CL6.

If they want to go on easy way, to continue with mine format,, im ok with that, but even i will make improvements and more implementations toward promotion and relegation system, because i belive that every next CL need to be better and better,,instead to waste time on comments here.
But if they think its important to do that,, ok.

If some of CD think that i write something negative about them,please send me PM, and i will edit this post, to be ok.

How humble of you

[BoganGod]

like i say in mine gentlemen agreement with CD via PM, i will not comment about hes work,

Instead that they focus on CL6, and do everything that this be prepared and execute in best way, they still waste hes time to comment mine work in clans.

For me its good that still left majority of people who appreciate mine work in CL5, so they can continue to waste time on commenting here,, but mine suggestion its to start work on implementation and adjustment for CL6.

If they want to go on easy way, to continue with mine format,, im ok with that, but even i will make improvements and more implementations toward promotion and relegation system, because i belive that every next CL need to be better and better,,instead to waste time on comments here.
But if they think its important to do that,, ok.

If some of CD think that i write something negative about them,please send me PM, and i will edit this post, to be ok.

How humble of you

My, my look who is all positive for the holidays. Mr Apples, you say the nicest things. I was going to speculate that qwert was leveling up in irony skills, and congratulate him on the relative coherence of his latest post. Looks like maybe my reading comprehension skills are in need of remedial educative assistance. I would never have seen the humble intent of the latest post. Well spotted Shannon.