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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby Dibbun on Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:38 pm

jefjef you talk a lot of shit about me being foed and not reading my posts but you can't seem to leave my posts alone, especially when they do not concern you in the least

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So I'm wondering where you get off on insulting my current rank, knowing that I hit major at one point and lost rank when I left the site a year ago, and will not accept my challenge?

Here's an idea: How about you shut the f*ck up about your perception of my abilities unless you are willing to face me in a series of games. That would take character, however, and it's far easier to talk a lot of shit than to back it up with action.
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby Mr Changsha on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:27 am

What would a series of 1vs1 games prove? Who has the better dice? In my experience the weaker player in these things always makes the challenge 1vs1...in the hope that luck will see them through. The sad thing is though dibbun that even if you won all 7 it wouldn't really change anyone's perception of your relative abilities.

Challenge him to a series of trips or quads games, demand sunny and then you have an interesting challenge.
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby Dibbun on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:38 am

Mr Changsha wrote:What would a series of 1vs1 games prove? Who has the better dice? In my experience the weaker player in these things always makes the challenge 1vs1...in the hope that luck will see them through. The sad thing is though dibbun that even if you won all 7 it wouldn't really change anyone's perception of your relative abilities.

Challenge him to a series of trips or quads games, demand sunny and then you have an interesting challenge.


In my experience there are people who complain about luck and people who understand that risk is inherent in the game we play.

I would have no problem congratulating jefjef if he were victorious, and concede to him that his statement about me not knowing what I was talking about in that other thread due to my rank as being accurate. This whole thread started because jefjef doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut in situations which do not concern him.

QoH beat me 4-3 in a best of 7, and I was happy to congratulate him, though the bitching in the thread about "luck" irritated me. To be honest, one reason I left this site for so long and focused exclusively on chess is because of that "luck" bullshit and my extreme boredom about hearing about it over and over and over. It's just an excuse.

It goes without saying, of course, that if your clan was by my side in trips or quads on any map with any settings against any opponents we would be victorious.


Edit: an example of the shit I was tired of explaining over and over: viewtopic.php?f=445&t=153571&start=15#p3364938
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby QoH on Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:02 am

Dibbun wrote:QoH beat me 4-3 in a best of 7, and I was happy to congratulate him

We can always do it again...
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby IcePack on Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:23 am

No one will complain about you going back to chess permanently ;)
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby Dibbun on Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:37 am

IcePack wrote:No one will complain about you going back to chess permanently ;)


I try to live a life of logic, where actions make a semblance of sense. So it confuses me why you are in this thread, which has nothing to do with you, talking shit, and refusing to back it up? You want me to leave, why? Because I don't let people insult my abilities without challenging them? You want to go about the site talking shit and don't want to be called on it? If this circumstance were true, you would then be happier, healthier, and wiser? Because all I see before me is a chickenshit. Why don't you go play with your clannies against some NR's because I really don't have time for your bullshit.

QoH I'll be getting premium back in a couple days, and I'll let you know when I do as I'm interested in a rematch.
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:12 pm

All this post is is complete nonsense. I find a ton of major flaws:

1) Brigadier vs. Sergeant... I wouldn't accept that challenge if I was a Brigadier, just a Sergeant running his mouth.

2) You claim to beat a Corporeal First Class when he got dropped Australia... He let you have Europe. He deserved to lose, no one should let someone have Europe in a 1v1. You can't use that as bragging rights.

3) You did achieve a rank om Major, but you didn't keep it very long, how about trying to keep it for a few weeks before you say you were a Major. Anyone can achieve the rank, but holding it is the key.

4) All you are is a flamer... You were trying to flame vodean in the Live Chat yesterday... Lol. It's people like you I stay away from, it makes my life so much easier...

5) You act like you are 12, so everyone is going to treat you like you are 12.
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby Dibbun on Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:25 pm

Jdsizzleslice wrote:All this post is is complete nonsense. I find a ton of major flaws:

1) Brigadier vs. Sergeant... I wouldn't accept that challenge if I was a Brigadier, just a Sergeant running his mouth.

2) You claim to beat a Corporeal First Class when he got dropped Australia... He let you have Europe. He deserved to lose, no one should let someone have Europe in a 1v1. You can't use that as bragging rights.

3) You did achieve a rank om Major, but you didn't keep it very long, how about trying to keep it for a few weeks before you say you were a Major. Anyone can achieve the rank, but holding it is the key.

4) All you are is a flamer... You were trying to flame vodean in the Live Chat yesterday... Lol. It's people like you I stay away from, it makes my life so much easier...

5) You act like you are 12, so everyone is going to treat you like you are 12.


1. It is I running my mouth? Obviously you fail to click on links, it is jefjef's apparent need to comment on his perception of my abilities in unrelated threads which caused this callout. My standard is very simple and very logical: Don't fucking comment on my abilities unless you're willing to face me in a series. If jefjef can refrain from trolling me on the forums in threads which have nothing to do with him then we can get along great.

2. The c1c had Aus from the beginning of round 1. I did not have a Euro bonus until round 4.

3. Zzzzzzzz the rank came up because jefjef implied that as a corporal I didn't know what I was talking about, so if he wants to play the rank game I'll inform him that my rank was something. Not that rank equates to skill in the least.

4. LOL are you fucking kidding? Vodean is a little kid, who yelled for mods because I said I hated him (I said this because he was spamming live chat with stupid shit), then called me psychotic and told me to ignore him, then chimed in every 2 minutes or so insulting me. If there's a chat command to ignore that dumbass please enlighten me.

5. Excuse the f*ck out of me, do I pop into random threads insulting people? Nah bra, my self esteem isn't tied to that. Jefjef thought he would get in a free shot, unprovoked, and I'm just letting him know that if he wants to f*ck with me, then let's go on the battlefield. If that's somehow childish, fine, per #1 above if he is willing to shut the f*ck up about me then I'm content to leave him alone.
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby jefjef on Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:12 pm

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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:09 pm

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Jdsizzleslice wrote:All this post is is complete nonsense. I find a ton of major flaws:

1) Brigadier vs. Sergeant... I wouldn't accept that challenge if I was a Brigadier, just a Sergeant running his mouth.

2) You claim to beat a Corporeal First Class when he got dropped Australia... He let you have Europe. He deserved to lose, no one should let someone have Europe in a 1v1. You can't use that as bragging rights.

3) You did achieve a rank om Major, but you didn't keep it very long, how about trying to keep it for a few weeks before you say you were a Major. Anyone can achieve the rank, but holding it is the key.

4) All you are is a flamer... You were trying to flame vodean in the Live Chat yesterday... Lol. It's people like you I stay away from, it makes my life so much easier...

5) You act like you are 12, so everyone is going to treat you like you are 12.


1. It is I running my mouth? Obviously you fail to click on links, it is jefjef's apparent need to comment on his perception of my abilities in unrelated threads which caused this callout. My standard is very simple and very logical: Don't fucking comment on my abilities unless you're willing to face me in a series. If jefjef can refrain from trolling me on the forums in threads which have nothing to do with him then we can get along great.

2. The c1c had Aus from the beginning of round 1. I did not have a Euro bonus until round 4.

3. Zzzzzzzz the rank came up because jefjef implied that as a corporal I didn't know what I was talking about, so if he wants to play the rank game I'll inform him that my rank was something. Not that rank equates to skill in the least.

4. LOL are you fucking kidding? Vodean is a little kid, who yelled for mods because I said I hated him (I said this because he was spamming live chat with stupid shit), then called me psychotic and told me to ignore him, then chimed in every 2 minutes or so insulting me. If there's a chat command to ignore that dumbass please enlighten me.

5. Excuse the f*ck out of me, do I pop into random threads insulting people? Nah bra, my self esteem isn't tied to that. Jefjef thought he would get in a free shot, unprovoked, and I'm just letting him know that if he wants to f*ck with me, then let's go on the battlefield. If that's somehow childish, fine, per #1 above if he is willing to shut the f*ck up about me then I'm content to leave him alone.


And again, you show my #5. LOLOLOL.... Grow a few ranks before you challenge. No smart MJR or above would accept this...
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby codeblue1018 on Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:18 pm

Dibbun,

Why would he accept such a ridiculous challenge? What does the best of seven, 1vs1's mean as far as skill mate? It means nothing accept luck no? He loses one game and wins the other 6, he'd prolly still lose points overall. Not worth it on two fronts; points or skill. Set up team games, perhaps he may just accept, then again, maybe not. I know I wouldn't accept a meaningless challenge. Rank up mate; that also may change things. Seeing as tho you're this good, that shouldn't be a problem.
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:31 pm

codeblue1018 wrote:Dibbun,

Why would he accept such a ridiculous challenge? What does the best of seven, 1vs1's mean as far as skill mate? It means nothing accept luck no? He loses one game and wins the other 6, he'd prolly still lose points overall. Not worth it on two fronts; points or skill. Set up team games, perhaps he may just accept, then again, maybe not. I know I wouldn't accept a meaningless challenge. Rank up mate; that also may change things. Seeing as tho you're this good, that shouldn't be a problem.

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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby grifftron on Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:11 pm

You know what, i agree with everything Dibun said here... you have now become part of the jefjef fan club... wear it proud


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Postby swimmerdude99 on Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:41 pm

How can you agree with Dibbun? would you accept this?
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby lynch5762 on Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:32 pm

I don't know.... I am kind of intrigued by this

I know that there is a huge rank difference and that 1 vs 1 can be bullshit.... Maybe different terms? I am intrigued by the fact that Dibbun is a chess player and of course I have no love loss for jetjeff... :lol: :lol:

That being said.... I would never back down from any challenge myself, but I will point out that the terms would have to be agreed upon.
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby Mr Changsha on Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:06 am

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Mr Changsha wrote:What would a series of 1vs1 games prove? Who has the better dice? In my experience the weaker player in these things always makes the challenge 1vs1...in the hope that luck will see them through. The sad thing is though dibbun that even if you won all 7 it wouldn't really change anyone's perception of your relative abilities.

Challenge him to a series of trips or quads games, demand sunny and then you have an interesting challenge.


In my experience there are people who complain about luck and people who understand that risk is inherent in the game we play.

I would have no problem congratulating jefjef if he were victorious, and concede to him that his statement about me not knowing what I was talking about in that other thread due to my rank as being accurate. This whole thread started because jefjef doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut in situations which do not concern him.

QoH beat me 4-3 in a best of 7, and I was happy to congratulate him, though the bitching in the thread about "luck" irritated me. To be honest, one reason I left this site for so long and focused exclusively on chess is because of that "luck" bullshit and my extreme boredom about hearing about it over and over and over. It's just an excuse.

It goes without saying, of course, that if your clan was by my side in trips or quads on any map with any settings against any opponents we would be victorious.


Edit: an example of the shit I was tired of explaining over and over: viewtopic.php?f=445&t=153571&start=15#p3364938


As has been said your best bet is to form a trips team, create some games and then see if he will play. I don't think you can deny that there is more stratey involved in trips compared to 1vs1, therefore it is a better challenge.

Look at it in this way: if you challenged me to 7 1vs1 games (for whatever reason) I would refuse and I doubt a soul would be surprised. However, if you challenged me to some trips sunny games on maps I like and I balked then I suspect some would maybe think me frit.

You may disagree on this but the consensus is that 1vs1 in general is too luck-based. So to make an attractive challenge it will have to be trips.

I notice you keep avoiding this point. Do you not know how to play trips (no shame in that) or do you lack the people to play with (again no shame in that either)? I am sure you would have your challenge if you made these games team based. So why not?
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby Dibbun on Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:23 am

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Mr Changsha wrote:What would a series of 1vs1 games prove? Who has the better dice? In my experience the weaker player in these things always makes the challenge 1vs1...in the hope that luck will see them through. The sad thing is though dibbun that even if you won all 7 it wouldn't really change anyone's perception of your relative abilities.

Challenge him to a series of trips or quads games, demand sunny and then you have an interesting challenge.


In my experience there are people who complain about luck and people who understand that risk is inherent in the game we play.

I would have no problem congratulating jefjef if he were victorious, and concede to him that his statement about me not knowing what I was talking about in that other thread due to my rank as being accurate. This whole thread started because jefjef doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut in situations which do not concern him.

QoH beat me 4-3 in a best of 7, and I was happy to congratulate him, though the bitching in the thread about "luck" irritated me. To be honest, one reason I left this site for so long and focused exclusively on chess is because of that "luck" bullshit and my extreme boredom about hearing about it over and over and over. It's just an excuse.

It goes without saying, of course, that if your clan was by my side in trips or quads on any map with any settings against any opponents we would be victorious.


Edit: an example of the shit I was tired of explaining over and over: viewtopic.php?f=445&t=153571&start=15#p3364938


As has been said your best bet is to form a trips team, create some games and then see if he will play. I don't think you can deny that there is more stratey involved in trips compared to 1vs1, therefore it is a better challenge.

Look at it in this way: if you challenged me to 7 1vs1 games (for whatever reason) I would refuse and I doubt a soul would be surprised. However, if you challenged me to some trips sunny games on maps I like and I balked then I suspect some would maybe think me frit.

You may disagree on this but the consensus is that 1vs1 in general is too luck-based. So to make an attractive challenge it will have to be trips.

I notice you keep avoiding this point. Do you not know how to play trips (no shame in that) or do you lack the people to play with (again no shame in that either)? I am sure you would have your challenge if you made these games team based. So why not?


I lack people to play with. I don't have regular double/trips/quad partners because I've never sought them out. I recently had a nice doubles game with GeneralRisk and would play with him again, but that was one game.
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby NoSurvivors on Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:46 am

Jefjef may suck at risk, but as it says on the bottom, conquer club is not associated with risk.. So even though he sucks at risk, he sure as hell is better than a "major" at conquer club :lol: also.. You talk a lot of shit for a dude wearing 3 stripes and a diamond...
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:17 am

NoSurvivors wrote:Jefjef may suck at risk, but as it says on the bottom, conquer club is not associated with risk.. So even though he sucks at risk, he sure as hell is better than a "major" at conquer club :lol: also.. You talk a lot of shit for a dude wearing 3 stripes and a diamond...

NoS, maybee we should challenge Dibbun to a few Speed Freestyle games...
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby grifftron on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:20 am

best part is he said he quit the site for a year, now hes back...


he joined in 2011.


And for the record, I would accept a 7 game challenge... who cares about rank? pathetic.
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby NoSurvivors on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:50 am

Jdsizzleslice wrote:
NoSurvivors wrote:Jefjef may suck at risk, but as it says on the bottom, conquer club is not associated with risk.. So even though he sucks at risk, he sure as hell is better than a "major" at conquer club :lol: also.. You talk a lot of shit for a dude wearing 3 stripes and a diamond...

NoS, maybee we should challenge Dibbun to a few Speed Freestyle games...

I'm not one to call people out. I just shut up and if I am ever challenged, ill show up ;) lol. I also like to team with the underdog if the guwho everyone thinks is gonna win wants team games. idk I like stickin up for people who are publicly bashed.. Probably cos I know what its like. Not fun.
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby codeblue1018 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:46 am

grifftron wrote:You know what, i agree with everything Dibun said here... you have now become part of the jefjef fan club... wear it proud


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Huh? Lol. Jefjef fan club? It could have been you that he challenged Griff and I would have said the same thing. So, let me ask this yet again; what would a 7 game challenge of 1v1's prove? That a player is better; which is the sole reason for this challenge? Not even close; I'd expect you to understand this. Why in the world would jef agree to this absurd challenge? Come up with a lucid answer aside from playing for pride and perhaps I can be swayed, although, I don't think you can make a case for this challenge.
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby grifftron on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:54 am

We all know it wont come down to who is the "best", especially not in the 7 games... maybe a 100 game challenge would be more accurate of course...

BUT what happened to challenging just to challenge... this guy has beef with babies momma and he just wants to challenge to get this heat off his breasts. I seen a challenge just for the sake of challenging in lynch vs jd.. it was a fun read and fun challenge for both... I am sure a more negative reason for challenging would make for a better read and challenge... but it doesn't have to be about who's best does it? Cant we just challenge just to challenge?
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby codeblue1018 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:50 am

grifftron wrote:We all know it wont come down to who is the "best", especially not in the 7 games... maybe a 100 game challenge would be more accurate of course...

BUT what happened to challenging just to challenge... this guy has beef with babies momma and he just wants to challenge to get this heat off his breasts. I seen a challenge just for the sake of challenging in lynch vs jd.. it was a fun read and fun challenge for both... I am sure a more negative reason for challenging would make for a better read and challenge... but it doesn't have to be about who's best does it? Cant we just challenge just to challenge?


I would agree with everything you said here, however, this thread isn't about having a challenge for fun. The title explains all and the purpose of this challenge is to ascertain who the better player is. You and I both agree that a 7 games series of 1v1's won't determine the better player; the poster obviously does. This is all I was attempting to convey. A "good" read for us may not be the case for others. As I mentioned, I wouldn't partake in this either unless it was how you suggested, "for fun".
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Re: jefjef sucks at risk

Postby Dibbun on Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:16 am

grifftron wrote:BUT what happened to challenging just to challenge... this guy has beef with babies momma and he just wants to challenge to get this heat off his breasts.


That made me laugh.
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