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Which map would you like to see as CC's Germany Map?

Poll ended at Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:40 pm

Map F
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Map I
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Total votes : 242

Re: Germany Revamp Competition - VOTE NOW!

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:14 am

cairnswk wrote:
sully800 wrote:
The Neon Peon wrote:
sully800 wrote:ya know, map I is now running away from it. I say no run off is necessary if this kind of lead remains.

Of course no map is going to get >50% of the vote since everyone was allowed 2 votes. That doesn't mean that map I is not the clear favorite.

I'd like a run off. I voted for F and I, and I have no clue yet as to which I like more. And there are many other people that voted for both that could be in the same dilemma as myself.

I think that there can't be any harm in running a second poll between just the 2 maps.


Right. I understand the reasoning and that's fine. There's no harm (other than taking more time) but I'm pretty confident the runoff won't change anything. I'd be fine with having one, and it does ensure the fairest possible vote, but I don't personally think it is close enough to be necessary.


Well, i think it would be interesting to see the outcome with only one option.
For all i know, the same 129 who voted for F, could easily have voted also for I, in this vote.
While the coutcome may be the same or similar, it solidifies the winner with only one choice to vote for.
That's my opinion anyways.

I think that's exactly right. Basically, without a run-off then there's no point to the ability to select 2 options. In essence, this 2-option poll—in my mind—was, unless the result was ridiculously one-sided, to decide which two maps would partake in a run-off.
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - VOTE NOW!

Postby porkenbeans on Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:08 am

the.killing.44 wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
sully800 wrote:
The Neon Peon wrote:
sully800 wrote:ya know, map I is now running away from it. I say no run off is necessary if this kind of lead remains.

Of course no map is going to get >50% of the vote since everyone was allowed 2 votes. That doesn't mean that map I is not the clear favorite.

I'd like a run off. I voted for F and I, and I have no clue yet as to which I like more. And there are many other people that voted for both that could be in the same dilemma as myself.

I think that there can't be any harm in running a second poll between just the 2 maps.


Right. I understand the reasoning and that's fine. There's no harm (other than taking more time) but I'm pretty confident the runoff won't change anything. I'd be fine with having one, and it does ensure the fairest possible vote, but I don't personally think it is close enough to be necessary.


Well, i think it would be interesting to see the outcome with only one option.
For all i know, the same 129 who voted for F, could easily have voted also for I, in this vote.
While the coutcome may be the same or similar, it solidifies the winner with only one choice to vote for.
That's my opinion anyways.

I think that's exactly right. Basically, without a run-off then there's no point to the ability to select 2 options. In essence, this 2-option poll—in my mind—was, unless the result was ridiculously one-sided, to decide which two maps would partake in a run-off.
I agree with cairn, neon, and 44.
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - VOTE NOW!

Postby Seulessliathan on Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:26 am

difficult to make a revamp for a map which includes some geographical nonsense like the imassable between Osnabrück - Münster. First person who sends me a photo of any impassable there will get my vote. So far , maps with rivers and hills there get my vote, that makes more sense than mountains, and i don´t have more major issues with these maps (D&I).
Name changes make sense on all maps, i don´t like the maps which are really dark.
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - VOTE NOW!

Postby Lone.prophet on Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:48 am

Seulessliathan wrote:difficult to make a revamp for a map which includes some geographical nonsense like the imassable between Osnabrück - Münster. First person who sends me a photo of any impassable there will get my vote. So far , maps with rivers and hills there get my vote, that makes more sense than mountains, and i don´t have more major issues with these maps (D&I).
Name changes make sense on all maps, i don´t like the maps which are really dark.


impassebles are for gameplay not geographicly most of the time.

btw i voted for I looked the best IMO but ofcourse some things could still improve, like the overdone old paper tone or the non matching german shield
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - VOTE NOW!

Postby Seulessliathan on Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:39 am

Lone.prophet wrote:impassebles are for gameplay not geographicly most of the time.


i have seen/played several maps now, and usually i believed that rivers/mountains really existed if it was a non-fiction map. Why should anyone add impassables where none exists? Gameplay would be different, but for all other maps, impassables didn´t come out of nowhere just for gameplay balance. And in this case (Germany map) i don´t see any reason given by gameplay for that strange impassable. I think it´s just geographical nonsense which can´t be undone because gameplay must be the same in revamp. Of course i could make a USA map , moving the Rookie Mountains to Florida .... but .... would that make sense? Would you agree with that if i say gameplay would be better after the change?
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - VOTE NOW!

Postby sully800 on Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:16 am

Seulessliathan wrote:
Lone.prophet wrote:impassebles are for gameplay not geographicly most of the time.


i have seen/played several maps now, and usually i believed that rivers/mountains really existed if it was a non-fiction map. Why should anyone add impassables where none exists? Gameplay would be different, but for all other maps, impassables didn´t come out of nowhere just for gameplay balance. And in this case (Germany map) i don´t see any reason given by gameplay for that strange impassable. I think it´s just geographical nonsense which can´t be undone because gameplay must be the same in revamp. Of course i could make a USA map , moving the Rookie Mountains to Florida .... but .... would that make sense? Would you agree with that if i say gameplay would be better after the change?


Seuless - that impassable exists because this is a revamp of a previous map. No one is allowed to change the gameplay, and the original map included some impassables and other territories that were wildly inaccurate. People are doing the best with what they've got, but by the rules of a revamp those impassables cannot disappear.

As for impassables that came out of nowhere for gameplay balance - see Brazil.
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - VOTE NOW!

Postby Lone.prophet on Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:23 am

Seulessliathan wrote:
Lone.prophet wrote:impassebles are for gameplay not geographicly most of the time.


i have seen/played several maps now, and usually i believed that rivers/mountains really existed if it was a non-fiction map. Why should anyone add impassables where none exists? Gameplay would be different, but for all other maps, impassables didn´t come out of nowhere just for gameplay balance. And in this case (Germany map) i don´t see any reason given by gameplay for that strange impassable. I think it´s just geographical nonsense which can´t be undone because gameplay must be the same in revamp. Of course i could make a USA map , moving the Rookie Mountains to Florida .... but .... would that make sense? Would you agree with that if i say gameplay would be better after the change?


well maybe they should think of any other impassible than nature pfenomena, but the idea of the impassables is to make the map balanced for the general starting conditions. so if the map needs them maybe they should make a bit up!
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - VOTE NOW!

Postby happy2seeyou on Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:33 pm

Where is a picture of the original map?

Just looked at these entries for the first time. Awesome job everyone.
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - VOTE NOW!

Postby Bruceswar on Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:06 pm

D had my vote :D
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - VOTE NOW!

Postby MrBenn on Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:24 pm

Poll Result:
Which map(s) would you like to see as CC's Germany Map?
Poll ended at Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:00 pm

Map A... 43... 7%
Map B... 13... 2%
Map C... 36... 6%
Map D... 48... 8%
Map E... 30... 5%
Map F... 131... 23%
Map G... 52... 9%
Map H... 20... 3%
Map I... 205... 35%

Total votes : 578
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - VOTE NOW!

Postby MrBenn on Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:27 pm

Following the result of the poll, there will be a run-off poll between maps F and I.

I'm going to allow a few days for any final tweaks based on feedback within this thread; The final poll will commence on Sunday - so the finalists have until 23:59 (GMT) on Saturday to produce their final submissions.
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:24 pm

Look forward to the updated maps!


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Re: Germany Revamp Competition

Postby porkenbeans on Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:49 pm

To the author of I,
The territories of Munster and Osnabruck are connected on the left bank of the river.
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - VOTE NOW!

Postby skeletonboy on Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:23 am

happy2seeyou wrote:Where is a picture of the original map?

Just looked at these entries for the first time. Awesome job everyone.


I think A is the original
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - VOTE NOW!

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:26 pm

skeletonboy wrote:
happy2seeyou wrote:Where is a picture of the original map?

Just looked at these entries for the first time. Awesome job everyone.


I think A is the original

No, other original.

Can people (besides F & I) say which map they made?
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition

Postby the.killing.44 on Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:08 pm

Been a week since w—they, submitted revisions :-^
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - VOTE NOW!

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:56 am

the.killing.44 wrote:
skeletonboy wrote:
happy2seeyou wrote:Where is a picture of the original map?

Just looked at these entries for the first time. Awesome job everyone.


I think A is the original

No, other original.

Can people (besides F & I) say which map they made?



Actually so voting is not tainted in any way I think it is best to wait till all voting is done. If all got F & I reveal, people will likely figure out who F and I is.
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition

Postby MrBenn on Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:32 pm

POLL RESULT:
Which map(s) would you like to see as CC's Germany Map?
Poll ended at Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:00 pm

Map A... 43... 7%
Map B... 13... 2%
Map C... 36... 6%
Map D... 48... 8%
Map E... 30... 5%
Map F... 131... 23%
Map G... 52... 9%
Map H... 20... 3%
Map I... 205... 35%

Total votes : 578
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition

Postby the.killing.44 on Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:37 pm

MrBenn wrote:
POLL RESULT:
Which map(s) would you like to see as CC's Germany Map?
Poll ended at Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:00 pm

Map A... 43... 7%
Map B... 13... 2%
Map C... 36... 6%
Map D... 48... 8%
Map E... 30... 5%
Map F... 131... 23%
Map G... 52... 9%
Map H... 20... 3%
Map I... 205... 35%

Total votes : 578

viewtopic.php?f=467&t=105024&start=75#p2383068 ;)
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - FINAL VOTE (page one)

Postby MrBenn on Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:42 pm

I was sure I'd done all this before :-k




The first round vote has been counted and verified - the two runaway favourites were entries F and I; without further ado, I present the final entries - The poll closes in 7 days and this time around you only have one vote: The winning map will replace the currently live version of Germany!

Map F:
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - FINAL VOTE (page one)

Postby skeletonboy on Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:28 pm

Pretty even at the moment.

GO F!
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - FINAL VOTE (page one)

Postby Mad-elph on Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:36 pm

I vote for i, it is a nice map
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - FINAL VOTE (page one)

Postby Optimus Prime on Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:42 pm

Map I for the win!
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - FINAL VOTE (page one)

Postby jefjef on Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:54 pm

I like map I

BUT the rivers should all be the same shade as the impassables chart river.
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Re: Germany Revamp Competition - FINAL VOTE (page one)

Postby fumandomuerte on Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:44 pm

Map F colours combination is tha shizzle. Go F!
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