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Which map do you prefer?

Poll ended at Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:28 am

LONDON
75
41%
DUBAI
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4%
ISTANBUL
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Total votes : 181

Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby sannemanrobinson on Fri May 20, 2011 5:53 am

I voted for #3 with the baroque elements that could also be around the city inset
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby Ogrecrusher on Fri May 20, 2011 12:04 pm

Map number 1 has at least 3 spelling mistakes, but it's my favourite graphically.
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby ComposerNate on Fri May 20, 2011 12:41 pm

They all need some proofreading. Also, I notice that the abbreviations for some areas are different in different maps. Are there any abbreviations that are standard for London neighborhoods, or boroughs, or whatever they call them?
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby Teflon Kris on Fri May 20, 2011 12:45 pm

ComposerNate wrote:They all need some proofreading. Also, I notice that the abbreviations for some areas are different in different maps. Are there any abbreviations that are standard for London neighborhoods, or boroughs, or whatever they call them?


I'm not so sure - they are definitely Boroughs, which is similar to a county. A London Borough's average population is 8,000,000 / 35 - slightly bigger than a neighbourhood.
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby yourientete on Fri May 20, 2011 12:50 pm

I don't like the brown Thames on map 3 (like it's made of londonian poops).
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby qwertylpc on Fri May 20, 2011 4:29 pm

CJ Lues wrote:Great maps guys!!! :D

btw. isn’t there a missing impassable (between Croydon and Bromley) in London 2? ;)


ya true dat btw #1 for me, the others dont stand out well enough
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby natty dread on Fri May 20, 2011 5:02 pm

Why were the large maps removed from the first post?
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby the.killing.44 on Fri May 20, 2011 6:57 pm

Victor, there is nothing "new" about #1. I suppose [Mod edit] meant it to be an imitation of, or perhaps more appropriately a gross and obvious counterfeit of, Great Lakes? Even the layout of the elements on the canvas is plagiarised. No aspect of the map works well in conjunction with any other. Bland.

#3 is simply a mapmaker's first or second attempt at a map. Not to be slanderous, there isn't more to be said.

[mod edit] Go #2.
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby yazoochick on Fri May 20, 2011 7:37 pm

#2 for me
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby RjBeals on Fri May 20, 2011 8:51 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:Victor, there is nothing "new" about #1. I suppose [mod edit] meant it to be an imitation of, or perhaps more appropriately a gross and obvious counterfeit of, Great Lakes? Even the layout of the elements on the canvas is plagiarised. No aspect of the map works well in conjunction with any other. Bland.

#3 is simply a mapmaker's first or second attempt at a map. Not to be slanderous, there isn't more to be said.

[mod edit] go #2.


:lol:

Yeah, 2's got my vote also, although I think the green is overpowering, I still like the smoothness of it.
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri May 20, 2011 9:21 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:Victor, there is nothing "new" about #1. I suppose [mod edit] meant it to be an imitation of, or perhaps more appropriately a gross and obvious counterfeit of, Great Lakes? Even the layout of the elements on the canvas is plagiarised. No aspect of the map works well in conjunction with any other. Bland.

#3 is simply a mapmaker's first or second attempt at a map. Not to be slanderous, there isn't more to be said.

[mod edit] Go #2.

:lol: Oh, killing! And #2 don't remind you of England? And besides, despite the perspective, there's not much else that ties #1 with Great Lakes. I think it's a rather fresh style still.

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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby natty dread on Sat May 21, 2011 1:04 am

Oh please, killing... plagiarism? Counterfeit? Lol. Like Great Lakes is the only map in the world with a tilted perspective... :roll:

There's no such thing as original ideas. Everything you can think of someone has already done in one form or another. All you can do is take an idea and make your own interpretation of it.
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby djak. on Sat May 21, 2011 6:14 am

Space:
1 wastes way too much at the top.
2 wastes a bit at the bottom, it should be cut off like 1.
3 wastes space everywhere eventho it's the smallest.

Text:
1's white isn't very readable.
2's black is fine, THO THE ALL CAPS IS IRRITATING.
3's black in the southeast doesn't have enough contrast.

Continent colors:
1's is the best and will probably look fine with colored army numbers, tho it could do with more contrast.
2's is too many shades of green.
3's is too much blue and purple.

Overall:
1's waste of space at the top spoils it.
2 is my pick.
3's map and legend borders spoil it. The inset should be removed and the city's size exaggerated.

Errors?:
2 doesn't have an impassable between Croydon and Bromley.

All of that said, great work by those involved - I couldn't do anything as nice.
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby ender516 on Sat May 21, 2011 11:30 am

If a map is going to waste space (and I am not sure I call a large title a waste of space), I much prefer it to be at the top of the map. That way, I can scroll it off and get down to the Action pane on the Game page. Large non-playable areas at the bottom of maps I find very annoying.
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby karelpietertje on Sat May 21, 2011 12:04 pm

Is it me or, in Entry 1, is the name of Southwark (south of the river, borders the city) simply missing?
(I read in the other options, don't know London that well :lol:)
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby porkenbeans on Sat May 21, 2011 12:15 pm

natty_dread wrote:Oh please, killing... plagiarism? Counterfeit? Lol. Like Great Lakes is the only map in the world with a tilted perspective... :roll:

There's no such thing as original ideas. Everything you can think of someone has already done in one form or another. All you can do is take an idea and make your own interpretation of it.

Now that you bring it up, that so called "tilted perspective" is all wrong. If it were done correctly, it would be distorted in a way that makes the image shorter, ...not taller.


All in all, #1 is OK, but it just has too much that needs to be addressed before it is up to par.

#2 is clearly the most professional looking entry. I think that the "all green" effect, is holding it back in the poll. I believe that this effect has advantages that are not seen until you see it with the numbers added. So, I took the liberty to show just what I mean. The only color that does not show up as well as the others are the green ones, so I have showed a couple of examples of minor color tweaks that might be in order.

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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby natty dread on Sat May 21, 2011 1:29 pm

karelpietertje wrote:Is it me or, in Entry 1, is the name of Southwark (south of the river, borders the city) simply missing?
(I read in the other options, don't know London that well :lol:)


Things like that will be fixed in FF... it's not like the maps have to be put in play exactly as they are.
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby kevusher on Sun May 22, 2011 6:07 am

Just a minor point - I think the Lond'on' used in no. 2 may be copyrighted....
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby Dukasaur on Sun May 22, 2011 12:29 pm

I picked #1. All of them look very nice, but #2 and #3 remind me of existing maps with colour schemes where it is very difficult to distinguish between enemy armies. #2 especially, reminds me of the existing England map where it is almost impossible to tell the difference between the Green and Grey armies.
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby Bruceswar on Sun May 22, 2011 6:39 pm

2 for sure
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun May 22, 2011 7:22 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:Victor, there is nothing "new" about #1. I suppose [Mod edit] meant it to be an imitation of, or perhaps more appropriately a gross and obvious counterfeit of, Great Lakes? Even the layout of the elements on the canvas is plagiarised. No aspect of the map works well in conjunction with any other. Bland.

#3 is simply a mapmaker's first or second attempt at a map. Not to be slanderous, there isn't more to be said.

[mod edit] Go #2.

:lol: Oh, killing! And #2 don't remind you of England? And besides, despite the perspective, there's not much else that ties #1 with Great Lakes. I think it's a rather fresh style still.

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natty_dread wrote:Oh please, killing... plagiarism? Counterfeit? Lol. Like Great Lakes is the only map in the world with a tilted perspective... :roll:

There's no such thing as original ideas. Everything you can think of someone has already done in one form or another. All you can do is take an idea and make your own interpretation of it.

Plagiarised was a literary hyperbole.

Firstly, of course #2 reminds me of England [Mod Edit] … but it works well being of the related subjects. They complement one another.

There is most definitely such a thing as an original idea. However, I am not saying that Wids had the original idea to tilt an image to create the illusion of a different perspective. No, I am saying that he was the first to do it on this website, and that [the mapmaker] obviously tried to emulate his map in more ways than just the perspective. I must mention the botched nature of [the] attempt to create the same feel, but really [the maker] also put the legend in the same style and the impassables in a poorly designed clone. Lastly, the background patterned brown is exactly that of Wids'.

But honestly it's not just [the] attempt that makes [the] map[#1] far from [entry #2]. It's just ugly. The images of London are a nice try to add some mood to the map but it doesn't mesh well with the rest of the canvas. The title is atrocious and takes the eye away from everything else instantly. There is no theme. The colors are washed out and positively reek of [the maker] style in border, color, and pattern overlay, not to mention the overly-condensed and hard-to-read font. The transition from map to images is nonexistent and jarring. Hell, the map just lies there and the absence of any sort of transitionary feel is sorely lacking. Why is there a thick brick line as an impassable? 2/3 of the Union Jack just sitting there in the corner?

[The] map's elements simply lie there and do not interact with one another. I'm sorry and I didn't originally intend to be overly rude. [mod edit] I can think of no more than five other map subjects that have the possibility of greater flavor and taste than London; truthfully, it is pretty easy to create a nice theme upon which to base a London map, for there are multiple distinct possibilities and for God's sake it's fucking London. The epitome of culture and history. I am disappointed [that entry #1 is going] to win this contest.
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby thenobodies80 on Mon May 23, 2011 4:51 am

My vote goes to Nr. 2
To me it's the most professional and clean submission, although it's certainly not perfect (the missing impassable and bad bridges, just to make 2 examples). But I love the skyline and let me say I also like the idea of a England sister map.

Some thoughts about the other submissions:

Nr. 1 I'm sorry to say this, but personally I think, more or less, what the.killing.44 wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:The images of London are a nice try to add some mood to the map but it doesn't mesh well with the rest of the canvas. The title is atrocious and takes the eye away from everything else instantly. There is no theme. The colors are washed out and positively reek of [the maker] style in border, color, and pattern overlay, not to mention the overly-condensed and hard-to-read font. The transition from map to images is nonexistent and jarring. Hell, the map just lies there and the absence of any sort of transitionary feel is sorely lacking. Why is there a thick brick line as an impassable? 2/3 of the Union Jack just sitting there in the corner?

[The] maps elements simply lie there and do not interact with one another.

Saying it in few words: the map doesn't looks to me a London Map

Nr. 3 is interesting, even if it needs some improvements for what concern graphical quality and colors. Like others said, a brown Thames doesn't look so good, and also that purple-blue colors are a sort of eyesore.
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby natty dread on Mon May 23, 2011 5:32 am

47% of people seem to disagree with you guys.

SUCK IT UP CUPCAKES.
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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Mon May 23, 2011 5:40 am

natty_dread wrote:47% of people seem to disagree with you guys.

SUCK IT UP CUPCAKES.

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Re: World Cities Contest: Pick your favourite London Map!

Postby ISN2 on Mon May 23, 2011 5:59 am

I voted for map #1 in first day cause it's better than two others. But still map #1 isn't a good map as alone ...

The big London title really needs to be changed (Be re fonted or re colored or effected or whatever) as is now it's disgusting in my idea ...

Names in small map can not be read (or can be but hard)! It's probably due a bad re size from large one to small one. They need to be fixed too ...

But anyway between these 3, my vote is still #1 for sure ...

The only thing I liked in #2 was the London city image bar under the image which #1 has a more cooler one on top of the image ...
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Terminator Achievement (2) Assassin Achievement (2) Manual Troops Achievement (3) Freestyle Achievement (3) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (3)
Fog of War Achievement (4) Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Speed Achievement (3) Teammate Achievement (1) Random Map Achievement (1)
Cross-Map Achievement (3) Beta Map Achievement (1) Battle Royale Achievement (2) Bot Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (4)
Tournament Achievement (2) General Achievement (10) Training Achievement (1) Challenge Achievement (2) Map Contribution (1)

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