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Which map would you like to see become CC's Central America map?

Poll ended at Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:59 pm

Entry #1
130
46%
Entry #2
114
40%
Entry #3
26
9%
Entry #4
13
5%
 
Total votes : 283

Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby bbqpenguin on Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:50 pm

bah non of these are as good as the two winners of last round :(
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:17 pm

samuelc812 wrote:Very unfortunate about the other 2 maps :( I voted for number 2 ;)

wait what did happen to the other two maps
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby edbeard on Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:25 pm

LED ZEPPELINER wrote:
samuelc812 wrote:Very unfortunate about the other 2 maps :( I voted for number 2 ;)

wait what did happen to the other two maps


one guy had a bunch of multi accounts vote for him. I'm not saying HE made them but multi accounts (they never said whose) voted for his map.

the other guy was disillusioned with CC so he decided to drop out.
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby Roger Dodger on Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:49 pm

i voted for #2 because i liked the depth the map has. the others seem a little flat. i also like that it has the crests for the territories.
really nice work from all

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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby jricart on Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:15 pm

When we're gonna have a winner?
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby the.killing.44 on Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:17 pm

Poll runs till Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:59 pm

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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby oaktown on Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:31 am

13 hours left, and it's neck and neck!
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:23 pm

Yowza, it is indeed close. Encourage people in your games to come and vote. ;)


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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby Bones2484 on Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:37 pm

I reluctantly voted for #2. Wish the original #3 was still here...
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby oaktown on Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:17 pm

this is when the folks who voted for #3 or #4 change their votes to back a winner... good luck to the leaders!
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby The Neon Peon on Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:18 pm

Bones2484 wrote:I reluctantly voted for #2. Wish the original #3 was still here...

Same, after that update, I did not eve hesitate on voting for it. Sad that it was removed.
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby samuelc812 on Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:28 pm

I wonder if #1 has an advantage since it is the only large map here...
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby edbeard on Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:37 pm

doesn't look like there'll be a significant margin.

I think they just work together and take the best elements of each map: #1's style; #2's fonts and legend. We will have a super map! or something that looks terrible!
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby oaktown on Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:22 pm

Final Poll Results!!

Which map would you like to see become CC's Central America map?
Poll ended at Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:59 pm

Entry #1: 130 votes, 46%

Entry #2: 114 votes, 40%

Entry #3: 26 votes, 9%

Entry #4: 13 votes, 5%

Total votes : 283
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby Optimus Prime on Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:42 pm

oaktown wrote:Final Poll Results!!

Which map would you like to see become CC's Central America map?
Poll ended at Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:59 pm

Entry #1: 130 votes, 46%

Entry #2: 114 votes, 40%

Entry #3: 26 votes, 9%

Entry #4: 13 votes, 5%

Total votes : 283

Bah!
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby Sohail88 on Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:03 am

i like entry one its the most colorful and im assuming the territ arangement on each map is the same
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby bryguy on Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:20 am

Congratz entry 1 =D>
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby lgoasklucyl on Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:48 pm

Thanks for the votes everyone- I was entry number 1 :)

I would like to note that Samuel (creator of #2) and myself very well may put a combined effort into the final map to make it as great as possible. I am rather unnerved by the negative responses to our entries, and would like to let you all know that both myself and Samuel will be ready and willing to make as many changes as necessary to create a map you will all enjoy and feel is up to par for something coming out of the foundry. Obviously I'll keep my base style (as that's what I started with and that's what won the comp) and moving as far away as EI's entry would remove the relevance of the competition- but many changes will of course be made.

As soon as Oak okays it I will (assuming the thread isn't move automatically) into the foundry and you guys can all rip it apart. I will start the thread off with a bunch of intended changes, then consider everything you guys want. The intended changes will be drawn from comments in this thread and anything else I come up with.

Again- thanks for the votes! I promise I won't let you down :)
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby bryguy on Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:25 pm

lol since people know who made 1 and 2 now, I might as well throw in my hat and tell u guys that I made entry 4


lol now im bored, I have nothing to work on. The monthy competition over at the Cartographers Guild is in its voting stage, so I dont have anything to work on, and I dont have any cc maps to work on at the moment.

anybody have any good ideas for me? lol

btw, i dont think that the style I chose for my entry worked out that well. I should have gone with a parchment styled entry :\

I agree with some comments about my entry (to dark, bad legend text, etc) but i dont get how people couldn't tell the regions apart. Each region has a different legend glow, so it should be pretty simple to figure out.

Oh, and for the people worried about copyright, there wasn't any copyright infringement or anything, I made the image from scratch, using some techniques that give a more realistic look to an image. (heres a link to my first map with that style http://forum.cartographersguild.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6243&d=1219859085 )


Thanks for the votes for anybody who voted for me :)
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby samuelc812 on Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:09 pm

How about reviving the Famine Map you had going.... :P
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby edbeard on Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:22 pm

not trying to be a jerk here but is that an official win for #1? lgo seems to think so. I would say certainly not. But if you guys are going to work together then it doesn't really matter since that's the best course of action. #1 has a style people will find easy on the eyes and obviously people like it enough to vote for in large numbers. #2 has the font and the legend which were probably the best in all the competition (including the two "dropouts").
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby lgoasklucyl on Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:32 pm

edbeard wrote:not trying to be a jerk here but is that an official win for #1? lgo seems to think so. I would say certainly not. But if you guys are going to work together then it doesn't really matter since that's the best course of action. #1 has a style people will find easy on the eyes and obviously people like it enough to vote for in large numbers. #2 has the font and the legend which were probably the best in all the competition (including the two "dropouts").


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Re: Official: Central America Competition - POLLS OPEN!

Postby oaktown on Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:23 pm

Thanks for waiting folks... after the issues surrounding the last 'final round' of voting I didn't want to rush into anything.

Congratulations to Igoasklucy are in order, as his map (entry #1) won the day. The map submitted by samuelc812 was a clear second favorite, but I think that given the outcome (map #1 garnered 114% of map #2's total) and the willingness that Iogasklucy has shown to incorporate the more successful elements of the #2 map, I am going to call this one in favor of entry #1.

Thanks and applause are also due to the mapmakers of the remaining maps: samuelc812, bryguy, and Knoc. All of the maps that I received for this competition were of high quality, and any would have been welcome additions to the site. =D>

Igoasklucy is invited to start up a map thread in the Main Foundry - I think that given the fact that MrBenn has already Draft-stamped the original thread we can forgo the Drafting Room process. If Igo' is interested in working with samuelc or others I will leave that to him to decide. Any concerns regarding graphics or gameplay can be discussed in that thread, and I will continue to follow the development of this map and finish up the code and coordinates when needed.
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - complete!

Postby edbeard on Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:33 pm

I think the "official" decision is a dangerous one. You're totally correct that in our case it doesn't matter too much since lgo is seemingly willing to upgrade his map with some of the elements of #2 which gave that map so many votes. In future competitions we might have a vote that is equally close.

The 114% is a very poor argument to me as the 16 votes total out of 283 are a meager 5.6% of the vote. And, we have to recognise that neither map garnered 50% of the vote so a true favourite was not found.

Like I said, in this case it'll be fine but I worry about how future competitions will turn out.

How would I solve this? well being that it's your map, I would have you be in charge of the graphics in a you're in charge of making sure that elements of both maps can be blended in a way that is agreeable to both parties and to you. Not necessarily doing any work yourself just in making sure the work of the two is done in a way that everyone can be satisfied with since the voting public has not shown a true preference for either of these maps. Obviously this is a lot to ask and not easy but it's just what my solution to this situation would be and not expecting anything to come of my points. I'm just sorry I wasn't able to post it before your decision was made because it's not meant as a reaction to your decision just something I had been thinking about and was going to post anyway.
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Re: Official: Central America Competition - complete!

Postby oaktown on Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:02 am

Alright, screw everything I wrote earlier. #-o

Map #1 had the most votes, with 130. Map #1 wins.

Igoasklucy's map was the top vote getter, so Igoasklucy gets to direct the graphic work from here on out. If Igoasklucy wants to bring in elements of the second map, as he mentioned earlier in this thread, he is welcome to do so, but that will be his decision.

When we went in to round 2 I said that this round would be final. With four (and originally six) maps going into round 2 there was a good chance that no map would garner a majority of the vote - nobody had a problem with this when it was announced.

I'll keep this thread open for general congratulations/wrap up.

Discussion about suggested changes to the winning map entry should continue in the new thread, so I will provide a link to the new map thread as soon as IgoasklucyI starts it up.

If you have additional concerns about the way this competition went down and how you would like to see us run future competitions, please voice them in this discussion thread.
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