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Postby Wisse on Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:07 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:good idea cena, why didnt anyone think of it :roll:


i don't know, you did?
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Postby Wild_Tiger on Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:32 pm

just pay the measily 20 dollah
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Postby Herakilla on Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:11 pm

Wild_Tiger wrote:just pay the measily 20 dollah
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Re: 1 free speed game / month

Postby Iliad on Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:46 pm

insomniacdude wrote:
Koronna wrote:
misterman10 wrote:
Koronna wrote:even for those who don't pay, will have the opportunity to play at least a real time game once every month

Live Chat = set up real time games

rejected.


live chat to set up rt games = time + effort most people don't want to give in = defeats the purpose of speed games


Then pay the $20 to eliminate the effort.

I support Speed games staying premium only. Lack needs to provide more incentive to get premiums to buy. Unlimited games, password protected, and now speed games (which are really unneccessary anyway...why tax the serves because the people who didn't want to buy a premium wanted a premium feature?

But freemiums don't even know whether speed games are fun or not. If they play a few and realise how go to they are then they might buy premium. Guys don't forget that this is a free site, it shouldn't be that premiums get everything and freemiums nothing.
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Re: 1 free speed game / month

Postby unriggable on Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:24 pm

Iliad wrote:
insomniacdude wrote:
Koronna wrote:
misterman10 wrote:
Koronna wrote:even for those who don't pay, will have the opportunity to play at least a real time game once every month

Live Chat = set up real time games

rejected.


live chat to set up rt games = time + effort most people don't want to give in = defeats the purpose of speed games


Then pay the $20 to eliminate the effort.

I support Speed games staying premium only. Lack needs to provide more incentive to get premiums to buy. Unlimited games, password protected, and now speed games (which are really unneccessary anyway...why tax the serves because the people who didn't want to buy a premium wanted a premium feature?

But freemiums don't even know whether speed games are fun or not. If they play a few and realise how go to they are then they might buy premium. Guys don't forget that this is a free site, it shouldn't be that premiums get everything and freemiums nothing.


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Postby Herakilla on Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:09 pm

freemiums can join tournies, get free games, if you get a select group of friends (not too hard, many clans are looking for people) you can get private games without paying 20$ when i was freemie for 3 months i got some speed games by posting a 1v1 and watching for the next 10 mins, if some1 joins it usually turns into a speed game ending the same day or so. thats without paying so freemiums can do stuff to get around the small restrictions the only thing you cant get around is the game limit.
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Allow at Least 1 Speed Game per Free player

Postby turtlerobot on Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:31 pm

Concise description:
  • Allow speed games for free players

Specifics/Details:
  • I used to play a long time ago, and I lost my old account. Back then CC was growing really big, and I see now that growth has pretty much stopped. The reason is people dont have time to wait 24 hours and play 2 month games. If you allow free players to play at least 2 free games out of the 4, there will be much more activity on the site, and MUCH MORE CASUAL PLAYERS WILL PLAY

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • Speed games = more casual players

    More casual players = more active players

    More active players = more referrals

    More referrals = more paying members

    More paying members = more money
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Re: Allow at Least 1 Speed Game per Free player

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:37 pm

turtlerobot wrote:Concise description:
  • Allow speed games for free players

Specifics/Details:
  • I used to play a long time ago, and I lost my old account. Back then CC was growing really big, and I see now that growth has pretty much stopped. The reason is people dont have time to wait 24 hours and play 2 month games. If you allow free players to play at least 2 free games out of the 4, there will be much more activity on the site, and MUCH MORE CASUAL PLAYERS WILL PLAY

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • Speed games = more casual players

    More casual players = more active players

    More active players = more referrals

    More referrals = more paying members

    More paying members = more money


You do realize that once new players notice they only got 1 free speed game, that are more than likely going to just create a new account to play another free speed game, yes?
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Re: Allow at Least 1 Speed Game per Free player

Postby turtlerobot on Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:39 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:
You do realize that once new players notice they only got 1 free speed game, that are more than likely going to just create a new account to play another free speed game, yes?


You do realize that new players can still create more accounts if they want to play multiple games? The safeguards in place to prevent that abuse can be used in this situation as well.

And speed games will be so quick that the costs of risking their account will be too high vs the benefits they receive, especially since they have to relog in and out every 5 minutes.
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Re: Allow at Least 1 Speed Game per Free player

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:54 pm

Yeah, but they are just going to ditch the old account, leaving a ton of accounts taking up more space on the server. Freemium players usually keep it to 1 or 2 other accounts, not play 1 game, ditch, 1 game, ditch, 1 game, ditch.

And most games on this site aren't 2 months. A majority of the games I join, only take about 1-2 weeks, tops. If you are joining big games with settings that generally take a long time to finish, that's the users fault.

Also, many of the normal paying customers don't tend to like playing inexperienced players in speed games. That's why they join them, because you have a good chance that they will play experienced members (Minus the odd cook or cadet that joins).
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Re: Allow at Least 1 Speed Game per Free player

Postby donkeylove on Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:03 pm

turtlerobot wrote:I used to play a long time ago, and I lost my old account.


Is this an admission to being a multi??
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Re: Allow at Least 1 Speed Game per Free player

Postby anonymus on Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:17 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:Yeah, but they are just going to ditch the old account, leaving a ton of accounts taking up more space on the server. Freemium players usually keep it to 1 or 2 other accounts, not play 1 game, ditch, 1 game, ditch, 1 game, ditch.

And most games on this site aren't 2 months. A majority of the games I join, only take about 1-2 weeks, tops. If you are joining big games with settings that generally take a long time to finish, that's the users fault.

Also, many of the normal paying customers don't tend to like playing inexperienced players in speed games. That's why they join them, because you have a good chance that they will play experienced members (Minus the odd cook or cadet that joins).


I guess the suggestion is to allow them 1 speed game at the time, or 1 every hour or 1 every day,, not 1 and than thats it..

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Re: Allow at Least 1 Speed Game per Free player

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:00 pm

anonymus wrote:
TheForgivenOne wrote:Yeah, but they are just going to ditch the old account, leaving a ton of accounts taking up more space on the server. Freemium players usually keep it to 1 or 2 other accounts, not play 1 game, ditch, 1 game, ditch, 1 game, ditch.

And most games on this site aren't 2 months. A majority of the games I join, only take about 1-2 weeks, tops. If you are joining big games with settings that generally take a long time to finish, that's the users fault.

Also, many of the normal paying customers don't tend to like playing inexperienced players in speed games. That's why they join them, because you have a good chance that they will play experienced members (Minus the odd cook or cadet that joins).


I guess the suggestion is to allow them 1 speed game at the time, or 1 every hour or 1 every day,, not 1 and than thats it..

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I don't get why we should. It takes away from the paying customer. Plus we do have times throughout the year when Freemiums can play speed games on certain maps.
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Re: Allow at Least 1 Speed Game per Free player

Postby Evil Semp on Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:53 pm

donkeylove wrote:
turtlerobot wrote:I used to play a long time ago, and I lost my old account.


Is this an admission to being a multi??


It was close to an admission, but I got the admission in chat. He has been busted.
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Re: Allow at Least 1 Speed Game per Free player

Postby jgordon1111 on Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:37 pm

you are one awesome dude Evil, way to go. And going to have to say forgiven is right,do not want that many noobs running amok in the speed games
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Re: Allow at Least 1 Speed Game per Free player

Postby chapcrap on Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:36 am

I do support the occasional speed game for freemiums, but not 1 all the time. Pay up cheapo!
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Re: Allow at Least 1 Speed Game per Free player

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:56 am

chapcrap wrote:I do support the occasional speed game for freemiums, but not 1 all the time. Pay up cheapo!


They get this, like at Halloween, St. Patty's, and the World cup (And any other holiday we do free speed games on).
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Re: Allow at Least 1 Speed Game per Free player

Postby ask me2 on Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:11 pm

I agree, this is a terrible idea.
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Re: Allow at Least 1 Speed Game per Free player

Postby drunkmonkey on Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:43 am

Can I suggest that suggestions by busted multis to improve free accounts are immediately moved to Rejected?
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Re: Allow at Least 1 Speed Game per Free player

Postby Metsfanmax on Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:48 am

This was on the fast track to Rejected anyway, but the viability of a suggestion has little to do with the person who initially cooked it up.
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Free to play Speed Games on Classic Map

Postby cooldeals on Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:07 pm

Concise description:
  • Speed Games on the Classic Map should be available to Freemium Members

Specifics/Details:
  • Create a new tab in "Join A Game" for "Join Classic Speed Games".
  • This tab will be the default tab when "Join A Game" is clicked.
  • All Games on this tab will be Speed Games with basic settings (Esc, Sunny, Automatic Deployment, 5 min turns, 6 players, standard).
  • These games will only be on the Classic Map.
  • These games will be open to Freemium members.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • This will increase the retention rate of new players
  • This will give new players a taste of the best part of the site for average players looking for a classic risk type game online
  • This will still encourage players to buy premium
  • Ends the problem of a player's first game being on a map they don't understand
  • Ends the problem of player's going to pogo.com to play risk after they realize they have to wait 24 hours to play again, and never coming back.
  • This change will not cause other significant problems in the current way the site operates
  • These settings are more fair to newcomers and limit the free options.
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Re: Free to play Speed Games on Classic Map

Postby agentcom on Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:18 pm

Hmmm ... very interesting. If it gave players a preview of speed and caused more players to pay and or stay, then I'm for it. Cool idea.
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Re: Free to play Speed Games on Classic Map

Postby chapcrap on Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:20 pm

I think speed games is one of the biggest thing that people pay for. I'm not sure that this would increase revenue... Although, I do like more people on the site. So, if that would do it, then I don't know that I'd have a major issue myself.
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Re: Free to play Speed Games on Classic Map

Postby agentcom on Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:32 pm

I think speed classic with limited settings would get old for a lot of people real quick. This site offers a wide range of maps and settings, as well as the option to play in real time. We already give freemies a taste of all the maps and settings 4 at a time, why not throw them some speed games? Even limiting the options, they would still get a better experience than Pogo.
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Re: Free to play Speed Games on Classic Map

Postby Hornet95 on Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:51 pm

Quick point of information: Give freemies access to 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5-minute classic
-OR- 5 minute only?

I'd be in favor of 5-minute only. 1, 2, 3 and 4 gives away too much.

Also, I wonder if there would be a way to limit it on freemiums to 10, 25, 50, or 100 speed games per month?
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