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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby jwzirul on Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:20 am

Can't say I am a fan of the new look. Looking at the thumbnails is how I pick which games to start. I like the idea of making this a preference. Is that possible?
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby jako on Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:12 am

The thumbnail list was in itself awe inspiring and showed off how great CC as a community and a site really is...the new way totally eliminates any sense of that.

All you're given now is some text and a stupid drop down with check boxes. Totally bland, boring and redundant. A step back in my opinion to improving CC.
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby ManBungalow on Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:11 am

lackattack wrote:Perhaps we add a browse link that opens up a popup window with all map thumbnails?

Why select all maps, when you can select none? Are the instructions not clear?
if you have no preference for a particular criterion, just leave those boxes unchecked

This idea's going well, but I would like to see a "De-Select All" option on the map drop-down list. I accidentally clicked one #-o and my game search wouldn't work until I refreshed the page.
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby Fuggazi on Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:31 am

The new game finder look really is stupid. Bloody ridiculous having to go through countless searches in order to find a few games to join. I will definitely not be renewing my subscription.
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby Allerian on Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:49 am

Reading through this thread taught me that the change "helps CC pros point harvest more effectively". Wait, what?

CC appears to be about something other than enjoying a risk-like game. Disappointing. :-s
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby max is gr8 on Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:27 am

I prefer tick boxes to be honest, I think the categorising would be the way to go, with the following:

"Geographical - Real World" - Classic
"Geographical - Fictitious" - Disc world
"Non-Geographical" - Dungeons of Draknor

"Classic Style" - USA (Simple Conquering)
"Simple Changes" - Asia (one use of the one way attack), USApocalypse (negative bonuses)
"Non-Classic Style" i.e. extreme game play changes (Circus Maximus, Draknor etc.)
"Feudal Style" (can't think of a proper name for it) - New World, AoR maps, Feudal War etc.

"Small Maps" - Doodle
"Large Maps" - World 2.1

"Current World" - Luxembourg
"Historic" - WWII

"Continental" - we have one for every continent except Australasia, and Antarctica

Rather than using difficulty level use the historic content. Possibly in future allow frequent map-makers to have their own tab, so Cairnswick could have a tab, as could Widow Maker
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby Natewolfman on Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:32 am

max is gr8 wrote:I prefer tick boxes to be honest, I think the categorising would be the way to go, with the following:

"Geographical - Real World" - Classic
"Geographical - Fictitious" - Disc world
"Non-Geographical" - Dungeons of Draknor

"Classic Style" - USA (Simple Conquering)
"Simple Changes" - Asia (one use of the one way attack), USApocalypse (negative bonuses)
"Non-Classic Style" i.e. extreme game play changes (Circus Maximus, Draknor etc.)
"Feudal Style" (can't think of a proper name for it) - New World, AoR maps, Feudal War etc.

"Small Maps" - Doodle
"Large Maps" - World 2.1

"Current World" - Luxembourg
"Historic" - WWII

"Continental" - we have one for every continent except Australasia, and Antarctica

Rather than using difficulty level use the historic content. Possibly in future allow frequent map-makers to have their own tab, so Cairnswick could have a tab, as could Widow Maker

I place my support 100% behind this :lol:
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby thedestro on Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:07 am

I liked the old way better. The scroll box looks unappealing not to mention it takes longer to find/start a game if you just want to browse through the maps.
Why the change? Less load on server or something?
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby The Neon Peon on Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:32 am

The new game start is a ton better. The only reason people are complaining is because they actually have to think about the alphabet.

As for the game finder... I never use that function for multiple maps, but I can see how it can be annoying.
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby ManBungalow on Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:39 am

The Neon Peon wrote:The only reason people are complaining is because they actually have to think about the alphabet.

:lol: :lol:
I disagree slightly:
People are willing to put the brainpower into taking over the world and it's subcontinents etc, but are not willing to scroll down a list ?
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby sully800 on Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:36 pm

The only reason people are complaining is because people don't know how to use ctrl (and the lack of a gallery showing all maps at once.

I swear every other complaint is I can't select multiple maps or I can't deselect a map. This seems obvious to lack and others who are familiar with using ctrl in browsing files but I guess that is not a universal knowledge and needs more explanation.
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby ManBungalow on Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:29 pm

sully800 wrote:The only reason people are complaining is because people don't know how to use ctrl (and the lack of a gallery showing all maps at once.

I swear every other complaint is I can't select multiple maps or I can't deselect a map. This seems obvious to lack and others who are familiar with using ctrl in browsing files but I guess that is not a universal knowledge and needs more explanation.

We now have a multiple select reminder, and a link allowing you to view all of the maps !

Thanks Lack ;)
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby lackattack on Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:30 pm

Thanks for the feedback everyone!

On the Start A Game form I added a link to browse all maps, and fixed the Alexander's Empire bug.

On the Game Finder form I also added a link to browse all maps, and instructions on selecting multiple maps.
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby ManBungalow on Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:37 pm

Fuggazi wrote:The new game finder look really is stupid. Bloody ridiculous having to go through countless searches in order to find a few games to join. I will definitely not be renewing my subscription.

You now have instructions as to how you select multiple maps, I don't see any problem with this whatsoever; and these improvements are steadily making up for the recent issues (with the Classic map, and so on).
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby W F Crappeshotte on Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:10 pm

Awful change. I like to play on half a dozen "favourite" maps, and having to repeatedly scroll down through the list and pick them out is tiresome in the extreme. This has definitely made things more awkward.
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby sully800 on Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:38 pm

W F Crappeshotte wrote:Awful change. I like to play on half a dozen "favourite" maps, and having to repeatedly scroll down through the list and pick them out is tiresome in the extreme. This has definitely made things more awkward.


If you already know the map name you don't need to scroll at all. Just type it and it will jump there which should add hardly any time at all (and this saves time for many other purposes, such as scrolling to the rest of the settings that were below the map list.
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby jinxmarquis on Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:37 pm

Please add the option as stated earlier here to choose setting one way or the other. Or just go back. This is annoying and can't see the benefit. I HAVE always wanted to be able to have a "favorites" option that I could just select rather than always selecting the ones I like every time.
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby Jumentum on Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:15 pm

this has made it a pain for new players to choose different maps with ease. i agree that it should be an option in your personal settings.
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby TheTeacher on Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:40 pm

RayK wrote:I really hate that I can no longer search multiple maps at the same time - this is a real degrade of Game Finder!


Hold Ctrl (or on macs that other key right next to Ctrl that acts sorta like Ctrl does on PCs) while clicking. LACK you really should include a note about this to the side of the new map selector. lots of computer users that, well, aren't so good with computers don't know holding "shift" and "ctrl" are good for selecting or unselecting multiple items.
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby drake_259 on Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:59 pm

Can we please have an option on the personal setting for which one we would like, i had preferred the other one a lot better, if i ever wanted to search a map which i didnt know where it was i would have used ctrl + F

im sorry lack but this is the worst thing I've seen you do and i have never really cared for any changes you have made, but this is something i must admit i do not like, and is something i would leave because of a simple change like this.

i'm begging you with all my heart please reverse it or add it as an option. (i love this site and the community is great, i do no wished to leave from such a small thing, but it not a tiny bit as great as the previous layout)
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby trk1994 on Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:56 am

great fixes with the link to thumbnails and instructions for us comp. illiterate types. now if we could just have that "remember my settings" button for repetative searches we could be in business. ;)
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby bignick3833 on Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:38 pm

boooo i dont like it
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby saaimen on Thu Dec 25, 2008 5:32 pm

Well done lack! The newly added bits are very clarifying for everyone, and those who don't know all maps can still scroll through them very easily. Now just ignore those who don't like it yet, they'll get used to it :)
Oh, and I concur: a "favourite search" option would be really great!
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby drake_259 on Thu Dec 25, 2008 6:56 pm

saaimen wrote:Well done lack! The newly added bits are very clarifying for everyone, and those who don't know all maps can still scroll through them very easily. Now just ignore those who don't like it yet, they'll get used to it :)
Oh, and I concur: a "favourite search" option would be really great!

No don't just ignore us, there will probably be things added to the site that you dont really like sometimes and you would let the world out

Also i have disliked many things lack has done to the site, but if never put my foot down because i could just get used to it, but this is something completely different and i do recommend two styles because im guessing its about even on which people prefer the best
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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

Postby Darth-Maul on Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:15 pm

WTF happened to all the maps... it was easier to choose my map... now i have to find it from the name and not the graphic... So GAY!
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