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What do you think about Adjacent Attacks?

I would support this being an option
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I would oppose this being an option
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I don't care/I don't know yet
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Re: New Attack Option: Chained or Adjacent

Postby john1099 on Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:01 am

3seven1 wrote:I've played another game that is like Conquer Club and in that game i've played in a way that you can only attack adjacent countries.

Example: Classic Map

If you are in Brazil, you're attack options are; Venezuela, Peru, Argentina and North Africa. You can attack any of these countries on your turn but you can't continue past that.

I think it would be great to have this option at the start of a game because I feel this adds another stradegy element to the game.

I also like the way it is now where you can start in Brazil and attack North America, Egypt, Middle East, India and then China. They both have thier pros and cons but like I said, I think it would be a nice option to have when you are starting or searching for a game.


Please post your thoughts. Good idea? Bad idea? Why?


That's not what you said..
Read the part I put in bold, then the part I put larger.

You contradicted yourself, so either edit it to make it how you want to convey your ideas, or my remarks remain ;)
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Re: New Attack Option: Chained or Adjacent

Postby 3seven1 on Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:06 am

john1099 wrote:
3seven1 wrote:I've played another game that is like Conquer Club and in that game i've played in a way that you can only attack adjacent countries.

Example: Classic Map

If you are in Brazil, you're attack options are; Venezuela, Peru, Argentina and North Africa. You can attack any of these countries on your turn but you can't continue past that.

I think it would be great to have this option at the start of a game because I feel this adds another stradegy element to the game.

I also like the way it is now where you can start in Brazil and attack North America, Egypt, Middle East, India and then China. They both have thier pros and cons but like I said, I think it would be a nice option to have when you are starting or searching for a game.


Please post your thoughts. Good idea? Bad idea? Why?


That's not what you said..
Read the part I put in bold, then the part I put larger.

You contradicted yourself, so either edit it to make it how you want to convey your ideas, or my remarks remain ;)


Yes, but that would be if you only had one territory. If you happen to have more than one territory you can attack with those as well.
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Re: New Attack Option: Chained or Adjacent

Postby john1099 on Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:09 am

3seven1 wrote:
john1099 wrote:
3seven1 wrote:I've played another game that is like Conquer Club and in that game i've played in a way that you can only attack adjacent countries.

Example: Classic Map

If you are in Brazil, you're attack options are; Venezuela, Peru, Argentina and North Africa. You can attack any of these countries on your turn but you can't continue past that.

I think it would be great to have this option at the start of a game because I feel this adds another stradegy element to the game.

I also like the way it is now where you can start in Brazil and attack North America, Egypt, Middle East, India and then China. They both have thier pros and cons but like I said, I think it would be a nice option to have when you are starting or searching for a game.


Please post your thoughts. Good idea? Bad idea? Why?


That's not what you said..
Read the part I put in bold, then the part I put larger.

You contradicted yourself, so either edit it to make it how you want to convey your ideas, or my remarks remain ;)


Yes, but that would be if you only had one territory. If you happen to have more than one territory you can attack with those as well.


Then this is exactly how you play the game, you attack from one to another, then attack from there to another territory.

As for your second idea, it's even more stupid.
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Postby 3seven1 on Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:24 am

You have me confused now. I'm not sure if you understand what i'm saying. I'll give another example just to be sure we're on the same page here.

Round 10:
One of the territories I own is Congo in Africa. Congo has 20 attackers on it. I can attack North Africa, East Africa or South Africa.
I attack South Africa and put 5 attackers there to defend incase of an attack from Madagascar.
I also attack North Africa and East Africa and i'm so lucky that I don't lose 1 time so I leave seven attackers in each territory and leave one behind in Congo. 7 + 7 + 5 + 1 is all 20. Now that i've attacked with those armies I can't attack with them again until my next turn.

If I have other territories with multiple attackers I can attack with those too, but only to touching territories.

The way the game is now, I can attack North Africa, Brazil, Venezuela, Central America...yada yada yada until i'm out of armies. I call that chain attacking.

I think this example is a little more clear than my first one. Is it still stupid or do you think this sounds like a good option to have?
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Postby 3seven1 on Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:29 am

If anybody is worried about having too many options to chose from when starting a game or searching for a game I suggest getting rid of the Freestyle option. I think that's a horrible way to play.
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Postby john1099 on Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:59 am

3seven1 wrote:You have me confused now. I'm not sure if you understand what i'm saying. I'll give another example just to be sure we're on the same page here.

Round 10:
One of the territories I own is Congo in Africa. Congo has 20 attackers on it. I can attack North Africa, East Africa or South Africa.
I attack South Africa and put 5 attackers there to defend incase of an attack from Madagascar.
I also attack North Africa and East Africa and i'm so luck that I don't lose 1 time so I leave seven attackers in each territory and leave one behind in Congo. 7 + 7 + 5 + 1 is all 20. Now that i've attack with those armies I can't attack with them again until my next turn.

If I have other territories with multiple attackers I can attack with those too, but only to touching territories.

The way the game is now, I can attack North Africa, Brazil, Venezuela, Central America...yada yada yada until i'm out of armies. I call that chain attacking.

I think this example is a little more clear than my first one. Is it still stupid or do you think this sounds like a good option to have?


What's to stop me from advancing all my armies and attacking another territory that is not touching Congo?

It's still adjacent to South Africa, where I just attacked, isn't it?

Secondly, people play freestyle more then they would play this.
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Postby ZARODA on Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:01 am

it would be nice, but as an option many ppl would choose it (possibly) thus making less games the normal way
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Postby 3seven1 on Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:32 am

john1099 wrote:
3seven1 wrote:You have me confused now. I'm not sure if you understand what i'm saying. I'll give another example just to be sure we're on the same page here.

Round 10:
One of the territories I own is Congo in Africa. Congo has 20 attackers on it. I can attack North Africa, East Africa or South Africa.
I attack South Africa and put 5 attackers there to defend incase of an attack from Madagascar.
I also attack North Africa and East Africa and i'm so luck that I don't lose 1 time so I leave seven attackers in each territory and leave one behind in Congo. 7 + 7 + 5 + 1 is all 20. Now that i've attack with those armies I can't attack with them again until my next turn.

If I have other territories with multiple attackers I can attack with those too, but only to touching territories.

The way the game is now, I can attack North Africa, Brazil, Venezuela, Central America...yada yada yada until i'm out of armies. I call that chain attacking.

I think this example is a little more clear than my first one. Is it still stupid or do you think this sounds like a good option to have?


What's to stop me from advancing all my armies and attacking another territory that is not touching Congo?

It's still adjacent to South Africa, where I just attacked, isn't it?

Secondly, people play freestyle more then they would play this.
Lack will NEVER and I repeat NEVER get rid of Freestyle, because thats the first game type there was ;)


The only thing that would stop you is whatever code lack would use to make this style of game play a reality. You wouldn't be able to "chain attack" so you'd have to plan your battles with that in mind.

RE: Freestyle. I didn't know that was the first type of play. I guess there is no getting rid of it. :-({|=
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Postby 3seven1 on Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:33 am

ZARODA wrote:it would be nice, but as an option many ppl would choose it (possibly) thus making less games the normal way



That sounds good to me!
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Postby BeastofBurson on Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:17 pm

3seven1 wrote:You have me confused now. I'm not sure if you understand what i'm saying. I'll give another example just to be sure we're on the same page here.

Round 10:
One of the territories I own is Congo in Africa. Congo has 20 attackers on it. I can attack North Africa, East Africa or South Africa.
I attack South Africa and put 5 attackers there to defend incase of an attack from Madagascar.
I also attack North Africa and East Africa and i'm so lucky that I don't lose 1 time so I leave seven attackers in each territory and leave one behind in Congo. 7 + 7 + 5 + 1 is all 20. Now that i've attacked with those armies I can't attack with them again until my next turn.

If I have other territories with multiple attackers I can attack with those too, but only to touching territories.

The way the game is now, I can attack North Africa, Brazil, Venezuela, Central America...yada yada yada until i'm out of armies. I call that chain attacking.

I think this example is a little more clear than my first one. Is it still stupid or do you think this sounds like a good option to have?


but thats the situation that my first post was about...what if your opponent has 40 sitting Weastern Europe

hes obviously gonna have alot of bonus armies...to add to it....

and they will probably have enough fortifications near your other areas to thwart off any attacks you might try.....

so he attacks North Africa...loses 2 you lose 7...he then attacks Egypt...he loses 5 you lose 7...your now down to 6...he still has 33.....plus whatever he deployed....

your not gonna even come close to winning with that type of force.....so why make that person wait another 24 hours to get the game over with?

why prolong the inevitable?

doesn't make sense at all

I mean like I said lack may go for it...but its not an option that the greater portion of members would use...

I doubt lack will do it for 10 players that want to use it

he would want to see that the majority of the members are for it before he spends hours or even days or weeks coding something like that into the scripts.....

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Postby 3seven1 on Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:31 am

If your opponent has 40 sitting in western Europe then you should be able to come from the other side and mess with his territories. Assuming you have territories on the other side. I think it would take a different strategy to play this way, naturally it wouldn't be everybody's cup of tea.
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Postby john1099 on Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:33 am

3seven1 wrote:If your opponent has 40 sitting in western Europe then you should be able to come from the other side and mess with his territories. Assuming you have territories on the other side. I think it would take a different strategy to play this way, naturally it wouldn't be everybody's cup of tea.


I doubt it would be anyones, I definitely wouldn't even consider playing this option.
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Postby 3seven1 on Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:37 am

Ok, that's one person out of ?? total players on this site. What does everybody else think?
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Postby john1099 on Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:38 am

3seven1 wrote:Ok, that's one person out of ?? total players on this site. What does everybody else think?


It's been here for 2 days and no one has commented because it is so flipping stupid !
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Postby misterman10 on Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:41 am

LOCK 'ER DOWN

I would never play this option and I definitely think that I am with the majority of the people on this site
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