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Re: >> Allow written response to ratings

Postby Shelter417 on Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:43 pm

I'm sorry, but even this is no magical solution. Not only does it inconvenience the slighted player (who has to put more effort into negating the unfair feedback than the abuser did), but sometimes you just don't know why the person slammed you. Was it because they didn't like your tactics? Because they're just a sore loser? Because you genuinely did something wrong?

I tend to take a lot of calculated risks, and when the dice backfire, people seem to be retaliating by leaving poor rankings. Before, that wasn't really a problem, because people knew that they'd sound stupid leaving feedback that criticized a valid strategy that just happened to backfire. Now people can take out their petty greivances, paranoid suspicions of secret alliances, and simple frustration with losing points on other players with impunity.
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Re: >> Allow written response to ratings

Postby PLAYER57832 on Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:18 pm

lexie3000 wrote:
yeti_c wrote:
lexie3000 wrote:so do i have this right? we'd have two opportunities for commentary - one related to the ratings and the other on the Wall. If the issue was the logistics of having to moderate negative and unpleasant comments wouldn't the simple answer have been to give each player the capability to delete unwanted comments and block their authors from further utterances?


No - cos then no-one would have any negative comments... thus the feedback would be utterly useless.

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that begs the question. just how useful are negative comments anyway? i for one wouldn't bother removing negative comments and i'm sure there's quite a few others who aren't that precious about the negative comments they get either. but either way what's the big deal? allowing people the ability to delete negative comments would have solved the problem the moderators had with the system.

I would say that OVER 99.9% of CC players are wonderful folks. But, those 0.1% can be real jerks. I had one guy recently post on my wall AND pm me several times (before I blocked him) some pretty nasty comments ... why?

Because I waited all of 5 minutes to join a casual game ... and then said (granted, I should have said nothing) that insulting someone was probably not the way to get folks to speed up.
Out of several thousand games, I have only had maybe 3 bad experiences.

Under the old system, I would have given him a negative saying, essentially, this guy is a jerk, avoid. And a lot of folks would/could. Now .... no one knows the difference between my 1's and his. Except that mine will be buried under a ton of positives.
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Re: >> Allow written response to ratings

Postby Shelter417 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:25 am

Exactly! Under the old system, there was a clear difference between someone with a rating of 6-6 and one of 58-6. Now they could theoretically have much the same rating.
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Re: >> Allow written response to ratings

Postby acespirit99 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:57 pm

I have a complaint. I am normally very quiet, but this star system has issues.
I finished playing a game and one player "sneedorien" gave EVERYONE 1 star?
Now lets look at this star issue.....
If you NEVER miss a turn than you should get 5 stars for Attendance. What else is there?? We all get 24 hours to take our turn and the time shouldn't matter, some of us wrok or go to school. So WHY would anyone get 1 star if they do not miss a turn??

Fair Play, this is a subjective one. I feel that if no one gangs up on someone or picks on just one player this should also be 5 stars. But I can see someone giving 4 or even 3 if they thought they were picked on.. (For the record, I didn't even attack that guy that much, I wasn't the one that took him out).

Attitude, another subjective one... This I think should come from the game chat. If they say nothing, well maybe they should get 2 starts, or maybe not. If they talk trash and complain then, hell YES they should get 1 star. This guy sneedorien is an example of a sore looser... To this moment I have lost many games and have given 5 stars to almost everone. Except one guy that missed 2 turns I gave him only 3 on attendance.

Sorry guys I think this system is too flawed. Sore loosers make some of us players look bad. I know not everyone will give 5, but let the punishment fit the crime.

Acespirit99

By the way THIS is his reply to my email to him
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From: sneedorien
To: acespirit99

i gave you bad ratings because i am a sore loser
i have bad sportsmanship

shit happens man

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Re: >> Allow written response to ratings

Postby PLAYER57832 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:13 pm

acespirit99 wrote:I have a complaint. I am normally very quiet, but this star system has issues.
I finished playing a game and one player "sneedorien" gave EVERYONE 1 star?
Now lets look at this star issue.....
If you NEVER miss a turn than you should get 5 stars for Attendance. What else is there?? We all get 24 hours to take our turn and the time shouldn't matter, some of us wrok or go to school. So WHY would anyone get 1 star if they do not miss a turn??

Fair Play, this is a subjective one. I feel that if no one gangs up on someone or picks on just one player this should also be 5 stars. But I can see someone giving 4 or even 3 if they thought they were picked on.. (For the record, I didn't even attack that guy that much, I wasn't the one that took him out).

Attitude, another subjective one... This I think should come from the game chat. If they say nothing, well maybe they should get 2 starts, or maybe not. If they talk trash and complain then, hell YES they should get 1 star. This guy sneedorien is an example of a sore looser... To this moment I have lost many games and have given 5 stars to almost everone. Except one guy that missed 2 turns I gave him only 3 on attendance.

Sorry guys I think this system is too flawed. Sore loosers make some of us players look bad. I know not everyone will give 5, but let the punishment fit the crime.

Acespirit99

which is probably why Lack began several threads specifically asking for suggestions to fic the problem
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Re: >> Allow written response to ratings

Postby Zeltania on Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:51 pm

I completely agree, there are some people who have given me below average when there was nothing said, yet under the current system sore loosers can give whoever they want a bad rating and there is no way we can defend ourselves.
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Re: >> Allow written response to ratings

Postby saaimen on Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:12 am

Here's one more option.
How about having the chance to mark bad ratings (1,1,1, or even a single 1) as 'undeserved' (or some catchier word)?
There will always be jerks leaving everyone all 1's and stuff, how about we give them a medal for it? "Left 20/50/100 incorrect ratings"... Or maybe a marker on the player's profile page or something? This way less people will be jerks. And it could go together with the comment system.
(Only obstacle: some people might tag all their bad ratings as injustified... But since those all came from different people, they won't quickly turn those players into 'wrong raters'. Right?)
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Re: >> Allow written response to ratings

Postby OliverFA on Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:54 am

I agree. Low ratings should be allowe to be answered.

In game http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?gam ... full_log=Y I kill billydigital and then he gives me low ratings. Isn't that unfair?

Or even better. Ratings lower than 3 should be justified with a written text that someone could check and decide if the player really deserves that low rating, or he is just receiving retaliatory low ratings.
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Re: >> Allow written response to ratings

Postby Zeltania on Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:14 pm

DAMN STRAIGHT!!!

I have the right to answer back towards a rating that is completely unfair, it doesn't have to be mandatory, it can be optional if people want to comment back.
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Re: >> Allow written response to ratings

Postby sailorjoe on Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:59 am

One of the problems I see with the rating system is the ease of rating with no consequence for unfair ratings. There are enough losers out there that you're bound to run into a few. When they leave you 1's and 2'a because you beat them, it takes many 5's to offset those bad ratings. The comment section at least gave you a recourse for a bad ranking. It also made the person leaving the comment validate why they did so. With three mouse clicks a disgruntled player can leave you a bad ranking.
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Re: >> Allow written response to ratings

Postby 40kguy on Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:23 pm

alow wriiten responses it would make ratings so much easier
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Re: >> Allow written response to ratings

Postby Kotaro on Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:25 pm

Anyone else notice there's a "respond" to the left of your ratings? Anyone?
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Re: >> Allow written response to ratings

Postby saaimen on Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:17 am

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