[GP/UI] Delay Start of Freestyle Games

[spiesr]

Concise description:

• Delay the start of a Freestyle game after all players have joined.

Specifics:

• Delay the start of a freestyle game 12 hours (for casual) and 20-30 seconds (for speed games) after all players have joined the game.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:

• By delaying the start of the game it will take away an unfair advantage to the last player or team joining the game.
• A delay should give all players or teams a fair chance to go first.
• It should help eliminate some of the farming that happens in freestyle.

[lackattack]

Please see http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27962

The proposed change if for speed games as well (2.5 minutes, half a round)

[Evil Semp]

Concise description:

• Delay the start of a Freestyle game after all players have joined.

Specifics:

• Delay the start of a freestyle game 12 hours (for casual) and 20-30 seconds (for speed games) after all players have joined the game.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:

• By delaying the start of the game it will take away an unfair advantage to the last player or team joining the game.
• A delay should give all players or teams a fair chance to go first.
• It should help eliminate some of the farming that happens in freestyle.

[blakebowling]

I would like to see this as an option (and I do believe that somewhere this was suggested before), but I wouldn't want it mandatory for all games.

[lancehoch]

I would say that 24 hours might be better, but I do like the idea.

[Caleb the Cruel]

I would say that 24 hours might be better, but I do like the idea.

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[blakebowling]

Or maybe, the last person/team to join is locked out from making their move until another person/team does (like if they went last in the previous round). EDIT: Also, if the team didn't make their turn within 12 hours, The other team would be able to.

[quert]

The main complaint I have about freestyle is a potential technique that exists and I find frustrating - i believe i have already seen it used. by making your turn last and then waiting around for someone to begin their turn you can begin your next turn as soon as they have and cash in any bonuses acquired without having to defend it. This works best if you end your turn during a peak usage time so that the wait is usually short and you don't miss the chance. a simple counter to this would be to only allow one person to go at a time. it is impossible to prevent if the person is actually there waiting so the key is to wait and catch them away from the game when you make your move(unless while waiting another player begins their turn) - potentially simple but still a frustrating element to have to considder.

[Evil Semp]

The purpose of my suggestion is to prevent or at least reduce what is mentioned in this post, http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=73442 not to change the way the game is played.

[Artimis]

Or maybe, the last person/team to join is locked out from making their move until another person/team does (like if they went last in the previous round).

That is a better idea by far, I like this.

I second this!

[jrh_cardinal]

Concise description:

• at the beginning of the game, have a 30 second clock count down (like the turn clock), no one is allowed to play during this time

Specifics/Details:

• so the clock counts down and everyone has to wait 30 seconds
• at the end of the 30 seconds the clock immediately resets to 5 minutes and play starts just like a normal speed freestyle game

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:

• mostly for 1v1s, this will save the person who started the game. Right now, the person who joins last has a big advantage. They start the game and can go directly in. The person that made the game has to continually stay on the my games page hitting refresh as fast as possible in order to have any chance to get into the game in time, and continually hitting refresh for 10 minutes is not fun (yes, I just did that). I was playing the world cup map, and it was really hard for me to be able to start my first turn against a good opponent with 12 terts left, I always had 11 so I only got 3 troops while my opponent got 4.
• With this suggestion, the PM saying "you're speed game has started" would be sent as soon as the game fills. Then, the person/people that joined before that would have 30 seconds to get to the board and the game would start fairly as it should be.
• It would also help all of the assdoodlers out there who try to win their game in 10 seconds or less

[ljex]

Concise description:

• at the beginning of the game, have a 30 second clock count down (like the turn clock), no one is allowed to play during this time

Specifics/Details:

• so the clock counts down and everyone has to wait 30 seconds
• at the end of the 30 seconds the clock immediately resets to 5 minutes and play starts just like a normal speed freestyle game

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:

• mostly for 1v1s, this will save the person who started the game. Right now, the person who joins last has a big advantage. They start the game and can go directly in. The person that made the game has to continually stay on the my games page hitting refresh as fast as possible in order to have any chance to get into the game in time, and continually hitting refresh for 10 minutes is not fun (yes, I just did that). I was playing the world cup map, and it was really hard for me to be able to start my first turn against a good opponent with 12 terts left, I always had 11 so I only got 3 troops while my opponent got 4.
• With this suggestion, the PM saying "you're speed game has started" would be sent as soon as the game fills. Then, the person/people that joined before that would have 30 seconds to get to the board and the game would start fairly as it should be.
• It would also help all of the assdoodlers out there who try to win their game in 10 seconds or less

I really like this suggestion, in fact because I want there to be at the start of the game is the only reason i host city mogul games that are manual. Also this would make speed manual freestyle a bit more fair in my opinion. Nice Suggestion

[AAFitz]

wow, that really is a good idea

[jefjef]

I never play F/S and can see the value in this sugg. Good idea.

[iamkoolerthanu]

Great Idea!