Ability to see teammates cards/spoils [Pending]

[ManBungalow]

Concise description:

• You should be able to see your team-mate's spoils in a team game.

Specifics:

• Should not be too hard to code.
  A four man doubles game should be set up in two columns as so:
  Assume that column one shows the players (players 1 & 2 on one team, and 3 & 4 on the other), column two represents their own spoils and column 3 represents their team-mate's spoils.
  

  Code: Select all

  1-   1   2
2-   2   1
3-   3   4
4-   4   3


  (Coding is not my most confident trait)

This will improve the following aspects of the site:

• Makes strategies more developed.
• Allows foreplanning, even when a partner does not communicate.

[ubersky]

Probably not that big of a deal. In doubles, I usually communicate my Spoils to my partner.

Seems like a way to help if you have a bad communicating partner(s), but in the end, does it really do anything, since only they can cash them in?

[Velvecarrots]

It can be good if you have to take out your partner to have any chance at winning, and you want to know if your combined 6 cards will give you 2 sets.

It also can change your game play if say you know your partner has a 3 card mixed set in flat rate.

Great suggestion. And it should be pretty easy from a coding aspect. Though in quads games it might be a lot of cards to keep track of...up to 20.

[cicero]

Merge post:

Ability to see teammates (NOT OPPONENTS!) cards - posts 8 August to 29 September 2007 - first post here
Team Games and Card Visibility - posts 7 to 8 February 2009 - first post here
See team-mate's spoils ? - posts 11 April 2009 - first post here

It may be worth noting that the first of these threads is marked as "pending".

Cicero

[EagleofGreenErth]

I personally dislike this. Team games are all about communication. In my games I usually tell my partner "set" or "2 pair, 2r 2g" etc. With this feature, teams would communicate less, and those that do talk to their partner lose an advantage to lazy teams.

[ubersky]

so... the only real benefit is if you have to take out your partner and get his/her spoils? If he/she is in agreement, then you are likely already communicating well. If they are not in agreement, then well...Not a very good partner are you?

[sailorseal]

I have total support of this, especially with non-talkative team mates

[demonfork]

just ask your team mates in game chat

This is what I do in team games, it's really not hard to do either.

Do we really need this when the information can so easily be shared in team chat?

[ManBungalow]

just ask your team mates in game chat

This is what I do in team games, it's really not hard to do either.

Do we really need this when the information can so easily be shared in team chat?

Your point is valid, but what do you do when you get stuck with a team-mate who, for whatever obscure reason, does not communicate? You're likely to lose the game anyway, but knowing what spoils they have increases your odds.

[stahrgazer]

Good idea.

While teams should communicate and read gamechat, people should read game logs as well.
"Read gamelog" did not prevent the site (Lack) from programming information on how many territories and armies an opponent has; likewise, "Read gamechat" should not prevent the site (Lack) from programming information about what spoils teammates have.

[yeti_c]

This same topic is being discussed in the "Team Cards Visable" topic

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=107280

And I believe that we have come up with a solution for it.

i.e. have the Team members cards be displayed in the Log file when they are earned.

C.

[Queen_Herpes]

I don't like it. Team games are all about communication, if you want to know what cards your partner has, then just ask them.

But, in a very good chance, another partner doesn't even look at the chat. If they do end up losing because of this reason, it's not fair to person that wants to communicate but the other partner won't reply in the chat.

You could also play a game with a player who isn't allowed to chat....this players exist, right?

[Queen_Herpes]

FWYI,
I think this is a great idea.

[yeti_c]

I don't like it. Team games are all about communication, if you want to know what cards your partner has, then just ask them.

But, in a very good chance, another partner doesn't even look at the chat. If they do end up losing because of this reason, it's not fair to person that wants to communicate but the other partner won't reply in the chat.

You could also play a game with a player who isn't allowed to chat....this players exist, right?

A very valid point her QH

C.