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by **jbrettlip** on Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:44 pm

Allow permabanned users access to the private forums that they were involved in before their permaban. If a clan member is forum banned, for misbehaving in the general population, there really is not much reason to keep him/her from speaking to their friends, who usually are the ones complaining about the ban in the first place.

Plus some of us don't have each others real life info to contact outside of CC.

In other words, I miss DM. And probably a few others that will soon be banned.

by **Woodruff** on Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:44 pm

jbrettlip wrote:Allow permabanned users access to the private forums that they were involved in before their permaban. If a clan member is forum banned, for misbehaving in the general population, there really is not much reason to keep him/her from speaking to their friends, who usually are the ones complaining about the ban in the first place.
Plus some of us don't have each others real life info to contact outside of CC.
In other words, I miss DM. And probably a few others that will soon be banned.

This seems very reasonable, so long as the individuals in question's (ignore my punctuation!) actions didn't piss off those private forum-goers (in other words, get the respective clan leader approval stamp on it).

by **Skittles!** on Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:47 pm

I agree with this. Even with a small 'vacation'. I hate getting a 'vacation' and not being able to see the private forums. Greatly annoying.

by **Night Strike** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:24 am

Why? I'd bet that 99% of the people in a private forum are there because of first being in the public forums. If they can't follow the rules in public, why should they get the privilege of still being in a private forum?

by **Artimis** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:33 am

Night Strike wrote:Why? I'd bet that 99% of the people in a private forum are there because of first being in the public forums. If they can't follow the rules in public, why should they get the privilege of still being in a private forum?

Congratulations, you've just completely missed the point!

Members on forum vacation are difficult to contact to pass clan related info on games they are required to play. That is the point that jbrettlip is trying to make. So by all means continue to bar them from posting in public as punishment for whatever transgressions they have committed, just don't punish their clans as well by making it difficult to contact the members under sanction.

by **jpcloet** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:52 am

Woodruff wrote:This seems very reasonable, so long as the individuals in question's (ignore my punctuation!) actions didn't piss off those private forum-goers (in other words, get the respective clan leader approval stamp on it).

Well there would be inherent approval. If the leader does not approve, they have the option to boot.

I've looked at making a few changes to clans and usergroups, and the Clan Directors (and other mods and player input) has been considered. I know the history, but I don't see a formal policy. I will look into this further, don't expect anything in the next few weeks though.

by **4myGod** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:33 am

jpcloet wrote:
Woodruff wrote:This seems very reasonable, so long as the individuals in question's (ignore my punctuation!) actions didn't piss off those private forum-goers (in other words, get the respective clan leader approval stamp on it).

Well there would be inherent approval. If the leader does not approve, they have the option to boot.

I've looked at making a few changes to clans and usergroups, and the Clan Directors (and other mods and player input) has been considered. I know the history, but I don't see a formal policy. I will look into this further, don't expect anything in the next few weeks though.

Everything here is so slow.

by **jpcloet** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:43 am

It's also known as Turtle speed. Everyone wants instant gratification in this age of the internet My focus is on the Season 2 Clan League (over 1000 players impacted), rather than dealing with 1 off situations like this (5-10 players at best), but it is on my radar. Priorities are different to each I guess.

by **jbrettlip** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:19 am

Thanks, Jp. I would even amend the suggestion to simply clan forums and not open social groups, as that would allow more potential to mingle with the general population for these nefarious rule breakers. But it would allow them to participate in clan challenges, and the clan leader could boot them if they were disruptive.

by **Night Strike** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:06 am

Artimis wrote:
Night Strike wrote:Why? I'd bet that 99% of the people in a private forum are there because of first being in the public forums. If they can't follow the rules in public, why should they get the privilege of still being in a private forum?

Congratulations, you've just completely missed the point!

Members on forum vacation are difficult to contact to pass clan related info on games they are required to play. That is the point that jbrettlip is trying to make. So by all means continue to bar them from posting in public as punishment for whatever transgressions they have committed, just don't punish their clans as well by making it difficult to contact the members under sanction.

Then the user should double check to make sure all their posts are following the guidelines. Clans are a forum privilege, so it's quite simple that those benefits are also lost while on a forum vacation/ban. Perhaps clans should think twice about allowing users who break the guidelines be members, or be prepared to make changes if a person is not allowed on the forum.

by **4myGod** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:52 am

Night Strike wrote:
Artimis wrote:
Night Strike wrote:Why? I'd bet that 99% of the people in a private forum are there because of first being in the public forums. If they can't follow the rules in public, why should they get the privilege of still being in a private forum?

Congratulations, you've just completely missed the point!

Members on forum vacation are difficult to contact to pass clan related info on games they are required to play. That is the point that jbrettlip is trying to make. So by all means continue to bar them from posting in public as punishment for whatever transgressions they have committed, just don't punish their clans as well by making it difficult to contact the members under sanction.

Then the user should double check to make sure all their posts are following the guidelines. Clans are a forum privilege, so it's quite simple that those benefits are also lost while on a forum vacation/ban. Perhaps clans should think twice about allowing users who break the guidelines be members, or be prepared to make changes if a person is not allowed on the forum.

Night Strike, I think you are intentionally trying to annoy the creators of this thread. I accuse you of being Intentionally annoying, which breaks the forums rules. Tell me when your ban is up so I can feel justice has been served.

An apology will not suffice and I have no doubt that when you have been on the forums as long as you have, you should have already received a warning, if not then I can certainly go through all your posts and find adequate reasoning for your warning.

Everyone is breaking the rules if CC wants them to be... The rules are so general and vague. How would a clan owner know if someone has been warned or punished for an offense before? Ask them? Yeah, if they knew they wouldn't get into the clan saying they had a previous offense, don't you think they would just lie?

Perhaps CC needs to make a record db and the clan leaders can do background checks on their new recruits before hiring them... I mean allowing them on the team.

by **King Berzerker** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:01 am

4myGod wrote:Perhaps CC needs to make a record db and the clan leaders can do background checks on their new recruits before hiring them... I mean allowing them on the team.

most forums just have a member rating near the avatar. like a warning level or something. i think if you are going to pay for the service, you should have to be able to meet the full agreement of gaming. you cant just ban someone for being bad on the forums when they pay to play the game. that is just rong.

by **spiesr** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:03 am

King Berzerker wrote:most forums just have a member rating near the avatar. like a warning level or something. i think if you are going to pay for the service, you should have to be able to meet the full agreement of gaming. you cant just ban someone for being bad on the forums when they pay to play the game. that is just rong.

Forum bans general do not stop you from playing the game...

by **King Berzerker** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:06 am

spiesr wrote:
King Berzerker wrote:most forums just have a member rating near the avatar. like a warning level or something. i think if you are going to pay for the service, you should have to be able to meet the full agreement of gaming. you cant just ban someone for being bad on the forums when they pay to play the game. that is just rong.
Forum bans general do not stop you from playing the game...

oh. i thought there was a diffarence between forum ban and permaban.