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Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby Queen_Herpes on Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:40 pm

Concise description:
  • Give ratings a lifetime, so that each single rating expires after 3 months -or-
  • Give ratings a fill zone of 100 ratings, so that each new rating after the 100th will knock off the oldest rating

Specifics/Details:
  • If a rating is given on May 1st, 2010 it will expire on August 1st, 2010 -or-
  • each player has a fill zone of 100 ratings. Every rating after the 100th will knock out the oldest or "first" rating in the fill zone

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • Allows ratings given unfairly or improperly to simply disappear over time or get washed out of the fill zone
  • Might save some frustration from players who felt they received unfair ratings
  • When players are convicted of Ratings Violations in the C&A Forum, offended players will know that the ratings will disappear over time or get washed out, as opposed to staying forever under the current system
  • Hello, Can anyone say "Policeboy?"
  • Might save server space. I don't know how much room those ratings take up, but even any size it would be nice to be able to limit the server space dedicated to something trivial.
  • Gives a better snapshot of how a player is performing at the given 6-month moment or over their last 100 games. (Works both ways...if a player started on CC poorly, then improved...or...if a player started well and then began to act like a jerk.)
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Re: Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby Queen_Herpes on Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:41 pm

Another good idea would be to determine whether 100 ratings is the right size of fill zone...
or if 3 months is the right amount of time to see an expiration of a rating.
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Re: Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby edwinissweet on Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:01 pm

i like the one where after a set number or raitings the old ones to be "washed out" its kind of like your second chance. Its a good way to show that you've reformed
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Re: Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby trapyoung on Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:04 pm

I miss feedback. Those were fun to read and you could personalize them, and I feel like I got a better sense of how players actually were by perusing those
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Re: Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby pmchugh on Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:41 pm

trapyoung wrote:I miss feedback. Those were fun to read and you could personalize them, and I feel like I got a better sense of how players actually were by perusing those


89 positive and one neutral which is marked **postive** and now your just another 4.9, the world is cruel :P
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Re: Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby trapyoung on Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:34 pm

Haha, it was more of the "yearbook" vibe that I miss.
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Re: Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby pmchugh on Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:58 pm

trapyoung wrote:Haha, it was more of the "yearbook" vibe that I miss.


Haha yeah, it was well better just a shame people abused it.

Although all my feedback are from my newb days, my personal favourite is when someone commended me for holding asia for a few rounds :lol:
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Re: Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby JoshyBoy on Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:30 pm

I echo the sentiments of these guys. I miss feedback. I would like to see it back. CC could appoint a whole team just to take care of the "issues" which would arise from feedback being left.

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Re: Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby jrl332005 on Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:00 pm

This is an amazing idea! I have seen complaints about how new players have gotten their fifth or sixth rating and the person rating them was abusing the system and gave them all ones. At the point their rating drops to aroung 3, 3.5 and people stop playing with them, because of one unfair rater.
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Re: Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby Queen_Herpes on Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:21 pm

jrl332005 wrote:This is an amazing idea! I have seen complaints about how new players have gotten their fifth or sixth rating and the person rating them was abusing the system and gave them all ones. At the point their rating drops to aroung 3, 3.5 and people stop playing with them, because of one unfair rater.


I agree, having those terrible circumstances where players give unfair ratings should result in the rating getting erased...eventually...with time.
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Re: Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby Dako on Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:53 am

Expiration date is good.
But I too miss old feedback :).
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Re: Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby 4 U 2 NV on Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:43 am

what would happen to the ratings given? would it affect the number you give according to the medal count as well? maybe we should just be able to have the first 100 or so or recent 3 months count towards the rating we see and have the other ones mean nothing after but stay there as another option.
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Re: Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby Queen_Herpes on Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:31 am

4 U 2 NV wrote:what would happen to the ratings given? would it affect the number you give according to the medal count as well? maybe we should just be able to have the first 100 or so or recent 3 months count towards the rating we see and have the other ones mean nothing after but stay there as another option.


The ones that expired or got knocked out of the fill zone would be deleted. Perhaps some other kind of counter or tracker would be necessary to give the medal. The medal is kind of lame anyways, but it is there, so I suppose counting them up to 500 is necessary until the medal is awarded.
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Re: Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby lord voldemort on Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:52 am

bad idea...ratings are peoples opinions and should be left. sure you get the off ratings abuse. But this is a very small number.
Feedback was changed because of the amount of moderation it took...Same reason as ratings wont be removed...as we head down that path. Sure it sucks you get a bad rating but its part of life..It will balance out after 100s of games anyway.
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Re: Give Ratings a Lifetime or Fill Zone

Postby Queen_Herpes on Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:04 pm

lord voldemort wrote:bad idea...ratings are peoples opinions and should be left. sure you get the off ratings abuse. But this is a very small number.
Feedback was changed because of the amount of moderation it took...Same reason as ratings wont be removed...as we head down that path. Sure it sucks you get a bad rating but its part of life..It will balance out after 100s of games anyway.


It may balance out after 100s of games, but there are players on here who play at a slower pace. If they receive a poor rating from one or more players, and the ratings were received unfairly from players who were just angry or interested in causing problems, they may not see the effects of that poor rating "balance out" for months.

Check into the situation with players who don't play that often, they've posted here and some have and still have the weight of those low ratings affecting their overall average.

"People's opinions" change with time, and it is far more difficult to go back and withdraw a rating than it is to have the system do it for you. More importantly, players fair play, game play (skill) and attitude change over time, or can change entirely on short notice. According to the current system, If a player's gameplay was piss poor for 500 games and was rated accordingly (one star for game play) in those 500 games, it would take 500 games of perfect play (and 500 5-star ratings in game play) to average out the game play score to a 3. It would take 1000 games of perfect play (and 1000 5-star ratings in game play) to bring the average up to a 3.7. It It would take 1500 games of perfect play (and 1500 5-star ratings in game play) to bring the average up to 4.

In the current system, A relative eternity would be necessary to increase a player's ratings if they made big changes in any one category. Similarly difficult if they made big changes in all categories. The weight of one or more poor ratings for players who do not play often will also take an eternity to get washed out.
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