Auto kick first turn dead beats

[nippersean]

Ocean,
What happens if people actually have a life and manage to miss the first turn in a game? I've done it before. It's not fair to regular players, that ended up not getting a chance to get to a computer, and instead automatically got kicked.

They join a new game and make sure they take their turn this time, so as not to ruin it for others - particlarly new recruits - likely to be in the same game + itching for a turn.
The OP was not aiming it at general missed turns just time-wasters I think

[clangfield]

I think there are occasions where a first turn kick out is valid - such as if they are the last player to join and it's manual deployment. I've had 3 3-player games ruined recently by new players joining then never moving. I would however only apply it to new players who have never made a move.
Personally, I would like to see this:
New non-member players (freemiums) are only allowed to join games against other new players, until they have completed (say) 3 consecutive games in which they have taken at least 90% of their turns. So if they complete 2, then get kicked out, they start from zero again.
One could add to that that if they are kicked out of 2 consecutive games, they are automatically kicked out of all other active games.

Also I would say that 'unqualified' players are not allowed to join games with the same players. This would prevent a) the easiest form of newbie farming and b) people setting up multiple new accounts.

Okay so it's perhaps harsh on other new players who are genuinely trying to get interested and play, to burden them with all the no-shows, but at least they'll get some easy points

If there are genuine reasons for non-attendance then I'm happy for them to be able to appeal for reinstatement, but they should go through the qualification process again.

I am one of those who couldn't give a toss about how the sad people boost their rankings illegitimately - do they really think we're impressed by someone cheating their way to captain? - but I am concerned about time-wasters who might ruin the site.

I guess for paying members it would be different - they've paid, they can do what they like. But all the problems that I've had have been with no pay, no play

[giantrascal]

I think there are occasions where a first turn kick out is valid - such as if they are the last player to join and it's manual deployment. I've had 3 3-player games ruined recently by new players joining then never moving. I would however only apply it to new players who have never made a move.
Personally, I would like to see this:
New non-member players (freemiums) are only allowed to join games against other new players, until they have completed (say) 3 consecutive games in which they have taken at least 90% of their turns. So if they complete 2, then get kicked out, they start from zero again.
One could add to that that if they are kicked out of 2 consecutive games, they are automatically kicked out of all other active games.

Also I would say that 'unqualified' players are not allowed to join games with the same players. This would prevent a) the easiest form of newbie farming and b) people setting up multiple new accounts.

Okay so it's perhaps harsh on other new players who are genuinely trying to get interested and play, to burden them with all the no-shows, but at least they'll get some easy points

If there are genuine reasons for non-attendance then I'm happy for them to be able to appeal for reinstatement, but they should go through the qualification process again.

I am one of those who couldn't give a toss about how the sad people boost their rankings illegitimately - do they really think we're impressed by someone cheating their way to captain? - but I am concerned about time-wasters who might ruin the site.

I guess for paying members it would be different - they've paid, they can do what they like. But all the problems that I've had have been with no pay, no play

Big problem arises from this. with so few new recruits at any given time, games will never start and that just continues to the original issue, games moving in a timley manner. Because of the few players and available games, new recruits will be MORE likley to leave due to boredom.
I think that somthing should be implemented that a newb can instantly join into a game the second they register, even if its an addon to the site where they can play against an AI just so they can get a feel for the game. But whatever it is, get them to understand the game on their first visit.

[shasha16]

[b]Concise description: If you miss your first turn you are eliminated.


[b]Specifics/Details: once you have played your first go normal three strikes and you are out applies

[b]How this will benefit the site and/or other comments
I have been a member of another site where you were kicked out for missing a go. I don't agree with this. Games can go on for some time and there will be genuine reasons for missing a turn. However if you sign up for a game you should be available to play the first turn. I have not had a game where someone misses the first turn then goes on to play subsequent turns. It is almost inevitable if someone misses the first turn you will be waiting the full 24 hours again for them to miss turns 2 and 3. This suggestion will limit this waiting time and allow the game to get underway.

Sadly this problem mainly occurs with new recruits. We were all there but it seems thatsign up and don't play then do. Any suggestions how we help newbies to take part once they sign up. Eliminating players earlier does not also get over problem of games being messed up. I am currently in a 4 player games. 2 newbies took the final spaces and have not played. Looks like it will be a 2 player game with lots of neutrals which is not much fun.

[greenoaks]

[b]Concise description: If you miss your first turn you are eliminated.


[b]Specifics/Details: once you have played your first go normal three strikes and you are out applies

[b]How this will benefit the site and/or other comments
I have been a member of another site where you were kicked out for missing a go. I don't agree with this. Games can go on for some time and there will be genuine reasons for missing a turn. However if you sign up for a game you should be available to play the first turn. I have not had a game where someone misses the first turn then goes on to play subsequent turns. It is almost inevitable if someone misses the first turn you will be waiting the full 24 hours again for them to miss turns 2 and 3. This suggestion will limit this waiting time and allow the game to get underway.

Sadly this problem mainly occurs with new recruits. We were all there but it seems thatsign up and don't play then do. Any suggestions how we help newbies to take part once they sign up. Eliminating players earlier does not also get over problem of games being messed up. I am currently in a 4 player games. 2 newbies took the final spaces and have not played. Looks like it will be a 2 player game with lots of neutrals which is not much fun.

so your suggestions is 'a great way to encourage new starters to hang around is to boot them immediately from the game.'

a simpler solution is if you send rds $25 he will make sure deadbeats don't bother you again for a whole 12 months.

[Gillipig]

[b]Concise description: If you miss your first turn you are eliminated.


[b]Specifics/Details: once you have played your first go normal three strikes and you are out applies

[b]How this will benefit the site and/or other comments
I have been a member of another site where you were kicked out for missing a go. I don't agree with this. Games can go on for some time and there will be genuine reasons for missing a turn. However if you sign up for a game you should be available to play the first turn. I have not had a game where someone misses the first turn then goes on to play subsequent turns. It is almost inevitable if someone misses the first turn you will be waiting the full 24 hours again for them to miss turns 2 and 3. This suggestion will limit this waiting time and allow the game to get underway.

Sadly this problem mainly occurs with new recruits. We were all there but it seems thatsign up and don't play then do. Any suggestions how we help newbies to take part once they sign up. Eliminating players earlier does not also get over problem of games being messed up. I am currently in a 4 player games. 2 newbies took the final spaces and have not played. Looks like it will be a 2 player game with lots of neutrals which is not much fun.

so your suggestions is 'a great way to encourage new starters to hang around is to boot them immediately from the game.'

a simpler solution is if you send rds $25 he will make sure deadbeats don't bother you again for a whole 12 months.

How? Will he take their turns?

[koontz1973]

Send me the 25 bucks and I will take their turns for you. This is a one time only offer. The more 25 bucks I get, the more turns I will take. In fact, send me 50 bucks and I will even take your turns for you.

See, sarcasm is what this deserves.

[darth emperor]

[b]Concise description: If you miss your first turn you are eliminated.


[b]Specifics/Details: once you have played your first go normal three strikes and you are out applies

[b]How this will benefit the site and/or other comments
I have been a member of another site where you were kicked out for missing a go. I don't agree with this. Games can go on for some time and there will be genuine reasons for missing a turn. However if you sign up for a game you should be available to play the first turn. I have not had a game where someone misses the first turn then goes on to play subsequent turns. It is almost inevitable if someone misses the first turn you will be waiting the full 24 hours again for them to miss turns 2 and 3. This suggestion will limit this waiting time and allow the game to get underway.

Sadly this problem mainly occurs with new recruits. We were all there but it seems thatsign up and don't play then do. Any suggestions how we help newbies to take part once they sign up. Eliminating players earlier does not also get over problem of games being messed up. I am currently in a 4 player games. 2 newbies took the final spaces and have not played. Looks like it will be a 2 player game with lots of neutrals which is not much fun.

so your suggestions is 'a great way to encourage new starters to hang around is to boot them immediately from the game.'

a simpler solution is if you send rds $25 he will make sure deadbeats don't bother you again for a whole 12 months.

How? Will he take their turns?

He said, that it won't bother you, not that they won't miss any turn again.
In other words, he'll do hypnotism, so that you'll cluck like a hen instead of getting mad (aka bothering) when someone misses a turn.

[shasha16]

so your suggestions is 'a great way to encourage new starters to hang around is to boot them immediately from the game.

If I thought that giving new recruits three chances to take part in a game would help I would not suggest it, but my experience is once the first turn is missed, then it is inevitable that they have forgotten about the game or site.

a simpler solution is if you send rds $25 he will make sure deadbeats don't bother you again for a whole 12 months.[/quote]

I don't see how whether I have Premium or not has anything to do with this.

[greenoaks]

I don't see how whether I have Premium or not has anything to do with this.

Because you only have 4 game slots and waiting for someone to take their turn is frustrating.

Premiums have unlimited games so dont give a shit and if they want an immediate fix they can play Speed.

Try it, it is worth the cost.

[agentcom]

MERGED. You could have found this if you woulda looked at the stickied topic Subject: Index of Missed Turn Suggestions in the Archived Suggestions.

[greenoaks]

MERGED. You could have found this if you woulda looked at the stickied topic Subject: Index of Missed Turn Suggestions in the Archived Suggestions.

he's too busy watching the turn clock