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Re: a "no dice" option

Postby rdsrds2120 on Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:45 pm

Darwins_Bane wrote:I feel like this has reached a good point in the discussion phase of this.Stickied.


With 19 pages I agree, spite what TFO says :P
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Re: a "no dice" option

Postby RedFlyingGolf on Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:55 pm

No, it takes out the whole point of the game. It is like suggesting to put a whole new game on this website. They would have to change the name from "Conquer Club" to "Game Club".
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Re: a "no dice" option

Postby PLAYER57832 on Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:50 pm

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Re: a "no dice" option

Postby Darwins_Bane on Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:56 pm

I feel like this has reached the conclusion of its discussion phase. Moving to submitted.
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using regular math (+1/-1)

Postby Donlarry on Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:03 pm

lets get rid of the dice program and just use regular math


dice should not be determining the outcome of the game


its like they should put my record against people and my record vs the dice cuz i got to play them in everygame


if u go home and play monopoly the dice dont feel like these dice ive played c-lo craps everything

these computer dice r just made up to be bad so can we change them finally half the member want them more fair


so what up with that
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby Donlarry on Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:32 pm

or cut down on the number of doubles
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:34 pm

Donlarry wrote:lets get rid of the dice program and just use regular math


dice should not be determining the outcome of the game


its like they should put my record against people and my record vs the dice cuz i got to play them in everygame


if u go home and play monopoly the dice dont feel like these dice ive played c-lo craps everything

these computer dice r just made up to be bad so can we change them finally half the member want them more fair


so what up with that


I do Play monopoly at home quite a bit, seems like at critical moments of the game, I land on a hotel. THOSE DICE MUST BE BROKEN
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby 40kguy on Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:44 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:
Donlarry wrote:lets get rid of the dice program and just use regular math


dice should not be determining the outcome of the game


its like they should put my record against people and my record vs the dice cuz i got to play them in everygame


if u go home and play monopoly the dice dont feel like these dice ive played c-lo craps everything

these computer dice r just made up to be bad so can we change them finally half the member want them more fair


so what up with that


I do Play monopoly at home quite a bit, seems like at critical moments of the game, I land on a hotel. THOSE DICE MUST BE BROKEN

hahahahaha yeah you should play with me and my friends we complain on if it was a roll or if it was a drop or if we land on a hotel we wouldnt be aloud to put it on national tv.
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby blakebowling on Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:04 am

What is this suggestion? I understand that you don't like the dice, but I'm not sure what your idea for improvement is.
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby Catarah on Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:23 am

plus, the dice we have are actually very good.

it has been tested over and over, with programs calculating the dices, how likely it is to have a winning/losing streak, etc.
and over and over, we have come to the conclusion that, yes, the dice are balanced.

so it is most likely that any imballance you see in the dice are the result of subjective thinking.
whenever the dice go well, its only natural, but when they suck enough to lose a game to it, you remember it.

believe me, i've had my share of bad dice too, but unless you can come with actual proof that the dice are not random enough(statistical proof, not one odd example :P) then i'm afraid nothing will change with the dice.
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby sachni on Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:45 pm

the dice are not 'natural' and do work in patterns of losing and winning, the problem here is that strategy and skill play a back seat to the programing priorities and these alone determine game outcomes. proof cannot be given by players but these patterns can be observed by any independent individual over periods of play which is why i won't maintain premium membership ... the dice issue is not mine as a player to fix and though i wish i could suggest an alternate program this is beyond me. i find your denial of the issue insulting more-over, fix the dice issue so that skill and strategy have a chance to impact on game outcomes and i would purchase premium membership immediately as i do really like these games.
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby mybad on Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:33 pm

it's not math, it's odds. odds are, your 10 guys are going to beat my 4, but sometimes they don't - that's why it's fun. if you want math try this: http://www.websudoku.com/
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby sachni on Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:34 pm

odds are called chance and data within the category of maths, odds are not a separate entity mybad ...
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby Darwins_Bane on Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:49 am

sachni wrote:the dice are not 'natural' and do work in patterns of losing and winning, the problem here is that strategy and skill play a back seat to the programing priorities and these alone determine game outcomes. proof cannot be given by players but these patterns can be observed by any independent individual over periods of play which is why i won't maintain premium membership ... the dice issue is not mine as a player to fix and though i wish i could suggest an alternate program this is beyond me. i find your denial of the issue insulting more-over, fix the dice issue so that skill and strategy have a chance to impact on game outcomes and i would purchase premium membership immediately as i do really like these games.


The dice are completely random. If they were not, it would be very easy to prove with all the dice analyzers and just knowing how they are generated. The fact is that they are even more random than they were. Yes, is sucks to get a losing streak. Then again, it must be nice when you get a bunch of good dice in a row too.
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby sachni on Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:47 pm

yes, it's good to get a winning streak and piss off when you hit a losing streak ... i acknowledge that and the fact that no-one is ultimately advantaged or disadvantaged by this process over a period of time. what i believe some other players and myself would like to see investigated is fewer patterns (streaks) determined by the generators so that skill and or strategy could play a greater role in our games.
after dragging this out over a week i'll leave it alone now and won't whinge again about this issue any more. thanks for responding and putting your case forward ...
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