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Re: No dice games

Postby rdsrds2120 on Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:53 am

This is 60/40? Garsh. Well, let's say that this were an option games. Why would we want to change the assault buttons for only those games (because we would), and how many games do you think would eventually come down to something that looks like the near end of a nukes game where every territory instead became a random 'player' one instead of neutral? It just doesn't seem to have enough practical benefits for the game and site itself to be worth the work that would have to be done to implement this setting.
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Re: No dice games

Postby bib.ou on Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:46 am

hope no dice option will be implemented soon.
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Re: No dice games

Postby demonthunder on Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:24 am

And use what instead?
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Re: No dice games

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:04 pm

demonthunder wrote:And use what instead?


Bunnies with cards.
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Re: No dice games

Postby goldstrike on Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:20 pm

YEEEEESSSSS......after losing 20 v 3 and 7 v 1 in the same game...i need this fixed...where is the voting thing?
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Re: No dice games

Postby blakebowling on Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:15 pm

When I first saw this, I was sure it was a troll thread that had went uncontrolled for 18 pages.

I'm glad to find I was mistaken, great idea.
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Re: No dice games

Postby Victor Sullivan on Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:44 pm

They should "beta test" this idea. Watch for unbalanced games, what maps it works for, get feedback, etc.
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a "no dice" option

Postby 40kguy on Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:12 pm

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have it so there's no dice and everything will be equal

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we have a lot of people complain about dice an conquer club is losing people because of it. so i think there should be an option where there is no dice. just an option people i don't see how this can make the site any worse just help it. i also don't know if this will take that long i think it will take like 5 minuets or something like that.
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Re: a "no dice" option

Postby TheForgivenOne on Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:34 pm

40kguy wrote:Concise description:

have it so there's no dice and everything will be equal

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we have a lot of people complain about dice an conquer club is losing people because of it. so i think there should be an option where there is no dice. just an option people i don't see how this can make the site any worse just help it. i also don't know if this will take that long i think it will take like 5 minuets or something like that.


Already been suggested before. Think about it, this will create a ton of stalemates, and will suddenly depend a lot more on the drop.
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Re: a "no dice" option

Postby 40kguy on Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:41 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:
40kguy wrote:Concise description:

have it so there's no dice and everything will be equal

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we have a lot of people complain about dice an conquer club is losing people because of it. so i think there should be an option where there is no dice. just an option people i don't see how this can make the site any worse just help it. i also don't know if this will take that long i think it will take like 5 minuets or something like that.


Already been suggested before. Think about it, this will create a ton of stalemates, and will suddenly depend a lot more on the drop.

actually i don't see how this will cause stuff to go stale. Think about it in escalating games someone will eliminate them if they got 1 more guy then them so it wont go stale. Also in no spoils it wont go stale because you will be able to stop there bonuses and same with flat rate. This is also why im saying it should be an option because in all most everyone of my games i see someone complaining. So the worst possibility is that no one likes it and no one plays it or we just take it away.
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Re: a "no dice" option

Postby TheForgivenOne on Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:55 pm

40kguy wrote:
TheForgivenOne wrote:
40kguy wrote:Concise description:

have it so there's no dice and everything will be equal

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How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
we have a lot of people complain about dice an conquer club is losing people because of it. so i think there should be an option where there is no dice. just an option people i don't see how this can make the site any worse just help it. i also don't know if this will take that long i think it will take like 5 minuets or something like that.


Already been suggested before. Think about it, this will create a ton of stalemates, and will suddenly depend a lot more on the drop.

actually i don't see how this will cause stuff to go stale. Think about it in escalating games someone will eliminate them if they got 1 more guy then them so it wont go stale. Also in no spoils it wont go stale because you will be able to stop there bonuses and same with flat rate. This is also why im saying it should be an option because in all most everyone of my games i see someone complaining. So the worst possibility is that no one likes it and no one plays it or we just take it away.


And what about a 1v1 game on Circus Maximus with No spoils?
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Re: a "no dice" option

Postby Victor Sullivan on Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:07 pm

I believe this was suggested before. I'll let you know when I find the link.
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Re: a "no dice" option

Postby TheForgivenOne on Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:31 am

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Re: a "no dice" option

Postby Darwins_Bane on Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:43 pm

I feel like this has reached a good point in the discussion phase of this.Stickied.
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Re: a "no dice" option

Postby rdsrds2120 on Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:45 pm

Darwins_Bane wrote:I feel like this has reached a good point in the discussion phase of this.Stickied.


With 19 pages I agree, spite what TFO says :P
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Re: a "no dice" option

Postby RedFlyingGolf on Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:55 pm

No, it takes out the whole point of the game. It is like suggesting to put a whole new game on this website. They would have to change the name from "Conquer Club" to "Game Club".
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Re: a "no dice" option

Postby PLAYER57832 on Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:50 pm

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Re: a "no dice" option

Postby Darwins_Bane on Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:56 pm

I feel like this has reached the conclusion of its discussion phase. Moving to submitted.
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using regular math (+1/-1)

Postby Donlarry on Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:03 pm

lets get rid of the dice program and just use regular math


dice should not be determining the outcome of the game


its like they should put my record against people and my record vs the dice cuz i got to play them in everygame


if u go home and play monopoly the dice dont feel like these dice ive played c-lo craps everything

these computer dice r just made up to be bad so can we change them finally half the member want them more fair


so what up with that
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby Donlarry on Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:32 pm

or cut down on the number of doubles
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:34 pm

Donlarry wrote:lets get rid of the dice program and just use regular math


dice should not be determining the outcome of the game


its like they should put my record against people and my record vs the dice cuz i got to play them in everygame


if u go home and play monopoly the dice dont feel like these dice ive played c-lo craps everything

these computer dice r just made up to be bad so can we change them finally half the member want them more fair


so what up with that


I do Play monopoly at home quite a bit, seems like at critical moments of the game, I land on a hotel. THOSE DICE MUST BE BROKEN
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby 40kguy on Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:44 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:
Donlarry wrote:lets get rid of the dice program and just use regular math


dice should not be determining the outcome of the game


its like they should put my record against people and my record vs the dice cuz i got to play them in everygame


if u go home and play monopoly the dice dont feel like these dice ive played c-lo craps everything

these computer dice r just made up to be bad so can we change them finally half the member want them more fair


so what up with that


I do Play monopoly at home quite a bit, seems like at critical moments of the game, I land on a hotel. THOSE DICE MUST BE BROKEN

hahahahaha yeah you should play with me and my friends we complain on if it was a roll or if it was a drop or if we land on a hotel we wouldnt be aloud to put it on national tv.
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby blakebowling on Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:04 am

What is this suggestion? I understand that you don't like the dice, but I'm not sure what your idea for improvement is.
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby Catarah on Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:23 am

plus, the dice we have are actually very good.

it has been tested over and over, with programs calculating the dices, how likely it is to have a winning/losing streak, etc.
and over and over, we have come to the conclusion that, yes, the dice are balanced.

so it is most likely that any imballance you see in the dice are the result of subjective thinking.
whenever the dice go well, its only natural, but when they suck enough to lose a game to it, you remember it.

believe me, i've had my share of bad dice too, but unless you can come with actual proof that the dice are not random enough(statistical proof, not one odd example :P) then i'm afraid nothing will change with the dice.
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Re: lets use regular math (+1/-1)

Postby sachni on Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:45 pm

the dice are not 'natural' and do work in patterns of losing and winning, the problem here is that strategy and skill play a back seat to the programing priorities and these alone determine game outcomes. proof cannot be given by players but these patterns can be observed by any independent individual over periods of play which is why i won't maintain premium membership ... the dice issue is not mine as a player to fix and though i wish i could suggest an alternate program this is beyond me. i find your denial of the issue insulting more-over, fix the dice issue so that skill and strategy have a chance to impact on game outcomes and i would purchase premium membership immediately as i do really like these games.
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