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Tournaments Should Be Created With A Pot of Points

Postby Woodruff on Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:18 pm

(Changed suggestion based on Uncle Death's proposal)

Concise description:
  • Tournaments should be created with each entrant providing a specified number of their points up front at risk

Specifics/Details:
  • Once a tournament is given tournament privileges, all entrants into the tournament put the given number of points (whatever it may be) into the pot, to be awarded to the winner.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • Would provide a tangible reward for tournaments, the majority of which have no actual prize for the winner. This would seem to make tournaments a highly prized asset, and the competition level would undoubtedly increase tremendously.
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Re: Tournaments Should Be Unrated Games

Postby greenoaks on Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:38 am

i don't like this

your score is a reflection of your overall ability & skill, regardless of whether it is obtained in non-tournament or tournament games

all games count, no exceptions
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Re: Tournaments Should Be Unrated Games

Postby Night Strike on Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:54 am

This is a bad idea. There are a lot of people who almost exclusively play only tournament games (like myself), so there would be no way to indicate what their true score is.
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Re: Tournaments Should Be Unrated Games

Postby Bones2484 on Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:24 am

Night Strike wrote:This is a bad idea. There are a lot of people who almost exclusively play only tournament games (like myself), so there would be no way to indicate what their true score is.


Ditto everything here.

In my opinion, playing in a variety of tournaments is the BEST indicator of skill. Take a look at how far Blitz crashed (down around 1500-2000) back when he was playing non-farming tournaments.
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Re: Tournaments Should Be Unrated Games

Postby Woodruff on Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:26 pm

Your points are legitimate, I won't argue that. But it's unfortunate that it has such a negative impact on the activity within the tournaments themselves.

I can just see how great the Tournaments would become if this were the case.
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Re: Tournaments Should Be Unrated Games

Postby IcePack on Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:29 pm

greenoaks wrote:i don't like this

your score is a reflection of your overall ability & skill, regardless of whether it is obtained in non-tournament or tournament games

all games count, no exceptions


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Re: Tournaments Should Be Unrated Games

Postby phantomzero on Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:38 pm

While I don't think this should be passes, there are problems when hats and up enter terminator tournaments or open games for that matter. It was even like that in the Battle Royale games, the hats were targeted.
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Re: Tournaments Should Be Unrated Games

Postby Uncle Death on Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:57 pm

What if in a tournament each player put up a certain amount of fixed points and rather than points being gained or lost for each game. Not until a player was eliminated or won would points be taken or awarded. It would be just like a poker tournament. If the organizer wanted to 2nd and 3rd place players could be rewarded as well. That might solve all issues related to point discrepancies between low and high ranked players.
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Re: Tournaments Should Be Unrated Games

Postby Woodruff on Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:59 pm

Uncle Death wrote:What if in a tournament each player put up a certain amount of fixed points and rather than points being gained or lost for each game. Not until a player was eliminated or won would points be taken or awarded. It would be just like a poker tournament. If the organizer wanted to 2nd and 3rd place players could be rewarded as well. That might solve all issues related to point discrepancies between low and high ranked players.


That is a very interesting thought. Would give an actual prize to the winner of the non-premium tournaments (which obviously are the majority). I like it.
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Re: Tournaments Should Be Unrated Games

Postby Uncle Death on Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:33 pm

Rethinking it a bit, I think we would have to put the points in up front. When you enter 100 points get deducted and go in to the pot. This could make tournaments the most popular games to get in to.
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Re: Tournaments Should Be Unrated Games

Postby redhawk92 on Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:46 pm

Uncle Death wrote:Rethinking it a bit, I think we would have to put the points in up front. When you enter 100 points get deducted and go in to the pot. This could make tournaments the most popular games to get in to.


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Re: Tournaments Should Be Unrated Games

Postby Night Strike on Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:57 pm

Putting points into a pot would be virtually impossible without an automated tournament system that everyone had access to because it would be WAY too much work to do for every tournament with just the Directors.
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Re: Tournaments Should Be Unrated Games

Postby Uncle Death on Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:19 pm

Night Strike wrote:Putting points into a pot would be virtually impossible without an automated tournament system that everyone had access to because it would be WAY too much work to do for every tournament with just the Directors.


It would require programming for sure. I can't imagine it not being automated. The question is can they do it and is it a good idea or not.
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Re: Tournaments Should Be Unrated Games

Postby Woodruff on Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:56 pm

Night Strike wrote:Putting points into a pot would be virtually impossible without an automated tournament system that everyone had access to because it would be WAY too much work to do for every tournament with just the Directors.


Absolutely, I would presume something like this would have to be automated. I agree.

Uncle Death wrote:
Night Strike wrote:Putting points into a pot would be virtually impossible without an automated tournament system that everyone had access to because it would be WAY too much work to do for every tournament with just the Directors.


It would require programming for sure. I can't imagine it not being automated. The question is can they do it and is it a good idea or not.


It seems pretty obvious they could do something like this. I'm not sure how easily, of course.

Potential downsides I can see:
1. Things would have to be set up so that tournament organizers could not screw over a non-tournament participator...in other words, how does the system know who has signed up for the tournament and who has not?

2. There would have to be a rule in place regarding a maximum number of points the tournament "point entry fee" could be set at, so as to avoid "high point only tournaments", which would violate the open-entry rule.
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Re: Tournaments Should Be Created With A Pot of Points

Postby greenoaks on Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:15 pm

what a load of ....

the new suggestion should have gotten its own thread, not hijacked this one
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