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by **murphy16** on Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:32 pm

Due to this bug that is going on right now with the game log not showing up, it has brought up a brilliant idea in one of my games. In Game 10179645, TheGeneral2112 brought up this idea.

Concise description:

Having the ability to choose weather you want a game log or not.

Specifics/Details:

A new gaming option.
Would look something like this in the Start A Game:
Fog Of War: No Yes Extreme.....or
Sight of Maps: Sunny Fog Of War Heavy Fog....
Just 2 examples of how to give the choice.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:

Adds onto the fog of war idea. Make to be like a real life Sniper!

by **TheGeneral2112** on Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:40 pm

Also, this is implemented on warlight.net. It makes for a great game type. It is called heavy fog, I think, on warlight. At least similar to the heavy fog option.

by **Victor Sullivan** on Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:20 pm

I feel like it may make the MHs' jobs a bit more difficult, no?

-Sully

by **murphy16** on Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:25 pm

If they are good at what they do then yes, it may be difficult but they should be able to do it. Just saying....

by **Geger** on Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:10 pm

NO

Too many advantages for player, who can watch the moves. I think nobody want to refresh the map all the time

by **murphy16** on Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:40 pm

That's the point of it being like a real FOR OF WAR, you can never track your opponent 100% of the time.

by **TheForgivenOne** on Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:07 am

murphy16 wrote:If they are good at what they do then yes, it may be difficult but they should be able to do it. Just saying....

And how are they supposed to process Secret Diplomacy cases if they can't read the log?

by **Herbas** on Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:56 am

I think this would turn games into a complete lottery.
I wonder where our skill would be tested in such games when we even don't have any ideas who is the largest or how much everyone gets.

by **Ickyketseddie** on Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:21 am

TheForgivenOne wrote:
murphy16 wrote:If they are good at what they do then yes, it may be difficult but they should be able to do it. Just saying....

And how are they supposed to process Secret Diplomacy cases if they can't read the log?

You could have a log in the backround for the mods, just not displayed?

I dont think its a terrible idea.. probably not a game mode that'd interest me personally, but i can see alot of people would like it.

@ Herbas - You can argue similar things about Flat rate spoils regarding skill to a certain extent.

I think some people would really like it so would it enhance the site? Yeah probably. Just dont let new recruits play it.

by **murphy16** on Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:48 am

Thank you for finally supporting me and this idea rather than bashing it.

by **Army of GOD** on Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:59 am

I think this was posted before a few weeks (or months) ago.

I'm not sure if I'm for or against it. It certainly helps stronger players in FOW, but desperate times call for desperate measures, and people will definitely look to wall-ing or PM-ing to call out stacks/truces.

by **Ickyketseddie** on Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:37 am

Army of GOD wrote:I think this was posted before a few weeks (or months) ago.

I'm not sure if I'm for or against it. It certainly helps stronger players in FOW, but desperate times call for desperate measures, and people will definitely look to wall-ing or PM-ing to call out stacks/truces.

Then these people are cheaters and deserve to be caught and punished. I dont see why that should count against a idea. Thats no different to SD in any foggy game.

I'm suprised there not been more support for this tbh.

by **TheForgivenOne** on Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:24 am

It would be hard to prove someone shared info via PM though. It's easier with an SD case, because, it's possible to see it through the log (For players). Plus, i think this would give BoB users a BIGGER advantage then they already have, because they can tell what they lost easily, if you're a user who plays from an iPod/mobile device or a browser without the Add-on, it becomes exponentially harder because you may not exactly remember where all your territories were. At least with Bob you can tell exactly which territories you lost.

And Herbas has a point, once you get big enough, you are almost unstoppable unless someone called you out in the chat. I've played with enough quiet people to know it happens. At least with the game log you can tell if someone is getting big. Without it, well, you depend on the other players as much as yourself.

by **Ickyketseddie** on Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:42 am

Again I dont think BoB should come into this either. Its a tool that the site allows and promotes? Plus Calling out people in game chat is allowed even if not always that sporting?

The difference is someone could be getting huge and start sweeping through the map only to find someone has stacked since turn 1 and has a collosus ready to turn the tables for example? I still think the idea has merit.. Althought i maintain i personnaly probably wouldnt play it! Lol.

Murphy - Were you thinking of removing spoils and territ info too? Otherwise with the above point you could see when someone starts to spread and get large to a extent?

by **QoH** on Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:49 am

No. No no no.

Part of skill, especially on a map like AOR, is all about your ability to read the log. The biggest part of being good at AOR is your ability to read the log.