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Re: Election?

Postby owenshooter on Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:05 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:Also, I'd like to say that one big factor in becoming a TeamCC member is one's behavior in the forums ;)

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Re: Election?

Postby hmsps on Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:26 am

Victor Sullivan wrote:Ahoy, eagleblade,

Applications for TeamCC positions are reviewed by those in the department they are applying for. And so in that regard, they are voted upon by those within the department, but not the community at-large. However, especially with more moderating-oriented TeamCC positions like Discussions Moderators and Chatters, the thoughts and opinions of the community are taken into consideration (i.e. a well-hated forum poster, even if said person has a clean record, may be rejected on the grounds of his lack of chemistry with the community).

Also, I'd like to say that one big factor in becoming a TeamCC member is one's behavior in the forums ;)

-Sully
This in its very nature is what is wrong with the system and what is currently going on with on mod in particular with one mod in C & A. Because you select few vote yourselves in annually or whenever, it is more or less a closed shop and you can do what you want (See C & A thread).

Mods in general are not transparent in their decisions etc and that is what frustrates most of the CC community. We all pay the same money as everyone else but alas if you are not in the select few, you are treat totally different. Maybe what we need is a team of people who would regulate the mods and have no hidden agendas but only want to se fairness (call them trustees if you like).

Personally any suggestion good or bad takes too long to implement anyway so it is largely a waste of time anyway.
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Re: Election?

Postby Night Strike on Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:05 pm

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Victor Sullivan wrote:Ahoy, eagleblade,

Applications for TeamCC positions are reviewed by those in the department they are applying for. And so in that regard, they are voted upon by those within the department, but not the community at-large. However, especially with more moderating-oriented TeamCC positions like Discussions Moderators and Chatters, the thoughts and opinions of the community are taken into consideration (i.e. a well-hated forum poster, even if said person has a clean record, may be rejected on the grounds of his lack of chemistry with the community).

Also, I'd like to say that one big factor in becoming a TeamCC member is one's behavior in the forums ;)

-Sully
This in its very nature is what is wrong with the system and what is currently going on with on mod in particular with one mod in C & A. Because you select few vote yourselves in annually or whenever, it is more or less a closed shop and you can do what you want (See C & A thread).

Mods in general are not transparent in their decisions etc and that is what frustrates most of the CC community. We all pay the same money as everyone else but alas if you are not in the select few, you are treat totally different. Maybe what we need is a team of people who would regulate the mods and have no hidden agendas but only want to se fairness (call them trustees if you like).

Personally any suggestion good or bad takes too long to implement anyway so it is largely a waste of time anyway.


I don't frequent other forums around the internet. Are there any that allow the members to routinely vote in their moderators? To be honest, that would be a major surprise to me, so why should CC do that? Furthermore, where's the lack of transparency? The Community Guidelines are posted for every person to see and read at any time they want. The punishment scale is included so that every member knows what level is coming next if they have an infraction. In fact, the maximum punishments have been lowered because of community desire/outrage. Also, you pay to play the games, not use the forums. We already have a team of people who regulate the mods: the admins. If you think a mod is abusing their power/position, you bring it up with an admin. If you believe you were wrongly banned, you file an eticket for an admin to review. Admins give final approval to any person being added to Team CC. Admins are the check on the moderators.
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Re: Election?

Postby hmsps on Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:50 pm

Night Strike wrote:
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Victor Sullivan wrote:Ahoy, eagleblade,

Applications for TeamCC positions are reviewed by those in the department they are applying for. And so in that regard, they are voted upon by those within the department, but not the community at-large. However, especially with more moderating-oriented TeamCC positions like Discussions Moderators and Chatters, the thoughts and opinions of the community are taken into consideration (i.e. a well-hated forum poster, even if said person has a clean record, may be rejected on the grounds of his lack of chemistry with the community).

Also, I'd like to say that one big factor in becoming a TeamCC member is one's behavior in the forums ;)

-Sully
This in its very nature is what is wrong with the system and what is currently going on with on mod in particular with one mod in C & A. Because you select few vote yourselves in annually or whenever, it is more or less a closed shop and you can do what you want (See C & A thread).

Mods in general are not transparent in their decisions etc and that is what frustrates most of the CC community. We all pay the same money as everyone else but alas if you are not in the select few, you are treat totally different. Maybe what we need is a team of people who would regulate the mods and have no hidden agendas but only want to se fairness (call them trustees if you like).

Personally any suggestion good or bad takes too long to implement anyway so it is largely a waste of time anyway.


I don't frequent other forums around the internet. Are there any that allow the members to routinely vote in their moderators? To be honest, that would be a major surprise to me, so why should CC do that? Furthermore, where's the lack of transparency? The Community Guidelines are posted for every person to see and read at any time they want. The punishment scale is included so that every member knows what level is coming next if they have an infraction. In fact, the maximum punishments have been lowered because of community desire/outrage. Also, you pay to play the games, not use the forums. We already have a team of people who regulate the mods: the admins. If you think a mod is abusing their power/position, you bring it up with an admin. If you believe you were wrongly banned, you file an eticket for an admin to review. Admins give final approval to any person being added to Team CC. Admins are the check on the moderators.
Night Strike wrote:
hmsps wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:Ahoy, eagleblade,

Applications for TeamCC positions are reviewed by those in the department they are applying for. And so in that regard, they are voted upon by those within the department, but not the community at-large. However, especially with more moderating-oriented TeamCC positions like Discussions Moderators and Chatters, the thoughts and opinions of the community are taken into consideration (i.e. a well-hated forum poster, even if said person has a clean record, may be rejected on the grounds of his lack of chemistry with the community).

Also, I'd like to say that one big factor in becoming a TeamCC member is one's behavior in the forums ;)

-Sully
This in its very nature is what is wrong with the system and what is currently going on with on mod in particular with one mod in C & A. Because you select few vote yourselves in annually or whenever, it is more or less a closed shop and you can do what you want (See C & A thread).

Mods in general are not transparent in their decisions etc and that is what frustrates most of the CC community. We all pay the same money as everyone else but alas if you are not in the select few, you are treat totally different. Maybe what we need is a team of people who would regulate the mods and have no hidden agendas but only want to se fairness (call them trustees if you like).

Personally any suggestion good or bad takes too long to implement anyway so it is largely a waste of time anyway.


I don't frequent other forums around the internet. Are there any that allow the members to routinely vote in their moderators? To be honest, that would be a major surprise to me, so why should CC do that? Furthermore, where's the lack of transparency? The Community Guidelines are posted for every person to see and read at any time they want. The punishment scale is included so that every member knows what level is coming next if they have an infraction. In fact, the maximum punishments have been lowered because of community desire/outrage. Also, you pay to play the games, not use the forums. We already have a team of people who regulate the mods: the admins. If you think a mod is abusing their power/position, you bring it up with an admin. If you believe you were wrongly banned, you file an eticket for an admin to review. Admins give final approval to any person being added to Team CC. Admins are the check on the moderators.
And do all other members of forums pay? i will save you checking on that one its NO. Why do we have to fall into what everyone else does. Basically its a corrupt government if not monitored or can U not see that? I am guessing that is also a NO
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Re: Election?

Postby Night Strike on Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:00 pm

hmsps wrote:And do all other members of forums pay? i will save you checking on that one its NO. Why do we have to fall into what everyone else does. Basically its a corrupt government if not monitored or can U not see that? I am guessing that is also a NO


CC is not a government: it's a private business. You don't get to walk into a Mom&Pop shop and tell them how to run their business, so you don't get to here either. I'm an unpaid volunteer for the site and I don't get to tell lack how to run his business either. If you want a governmental system of elections, please get involved in your local, state, or national government.
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Re: Election?

Postby hmsps on Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:02 pm

Night Strike wrote:
hmsps wrote:And do all other members of forums pay? i will save you checking on that one its NO. Why do we have to fall into what everyone else does. Basically its a corrupt government if not monitored or can U not see that? I am guessing that is also a NO


CC is not a government: it's a private business. You don't get to walk into a Mom&Pop shop and tell them how to run their business, so you don't get to here either. I'm an unpaid volunteer for the site and I don't get to tell lack how to run his business either. If you want a governmental system of elections, please get involved in your local, state, or national government.
Sorry did you answer what i said. If i pay money in which last time i checked i do, then i am either a customer or a shareholder. I know you are a volunteer, that is blatently obvious, but should some roles not be governed like maslis case?
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Re: Election?

Postby hmsps on Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:04 pm

hmsps wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
hmsps wrote:And do all other members of forums pay? i will save you checking on that one its NO. Why do we have to fall into what everyone else does. Basically its a corrupt government if not monitored or can U not see that? I am guessing that is also a NO


CC is not a government: it's a private business. You don't get to walk into a Mom&Pop shop and tell them how to run their business, so you don't get to here either. I'm an unpaid volunteer for the site and I don't get to tell lack how to run his business either. If you want a governmental system of elections, please get involved in your local, state, or national government.
Sorry did you answer what i said. If i pay money in which last time i checked i do, then i am either a customer or a shareholder. I know you are a volunteer, that is blatently obvious, but should some roles not be governed like maslis case? oh and just as an aside as a member of the community, i will get involved when i want and not when you say so
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Re: Election?

Postby Night Strike on Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:12 pm

I don't know why you keep double quoting/posting....you might want to look at that.

hmsps wrote:
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hmsps wrote:And do all other members of forums pay? i will save you checking on that one its NO. Why do we have to fall into what everyone else does. Basically its a corrupt government if not monitored or can U not see that? I am guessing that is also a NO


CC is not a government: it's a private business. You don't get to walk into a Mom&Pop shop and tell them how to run their business, so you don't get to here either. I'm an unpaid volunteer for the site and I don't get to tell lack how to run his business either. If you want a governmental system of elections, please get involved in your local, state, or national government.
Sorry did you answer what i said. If i pay money in which last time i checked i do, then i am either a customer or a shareholder. I know you are a volunteer, that is blatently obvious, but should some roles not be governed like maslis case?


You are a paying customer for the game-portion of the site. No one pays to use the forums on this site. If a customer does not like something about a place where they are spending their money, they find a new place to spend their money. They don't get to keep demanding that their views be installed in how to run the business. If enough people think and act like you in withholding money, the business will either adapt or die. But a couple of vocal customers can't just walk into a store and fundamentally change how they conduct their business. This suggestion in analogous to a group of customers walking into a store and voting on which employee should be named the manager, regardless of the experience or ability of the named manager. The private sector doesn't work that way.
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Re: Election?

Postby eagleblade on Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:37 am

Night Strike wrote:I don't know why you keep double quoting/posting....you might want to look at that.

hmsps wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
hmsps wrote:And do all other members of forums pay? i will save you checking on that one its NO. Why do we have to fall into what everyone else does. Basically its a corrupt government if not monitored or can U not see that? I am guessing that is also a NO


CC is not a government: it's a private business. You don't get to walk into a Mom&Pop shop and tell them how to run their business, so you don't get to here either. I'm an unpaid volunteer for the site and I don't get to tell lack how to run his business either. If you want a governmental system of elections, please get involved in your local, state, or national government.
Sorry did you answer what i said. If i pay money in which last time i checked i do, then i am either a customer or a shareholder. I know you are a volunteer, that is blatently obvious, but should some roles not be governed like maslis case?


You are a paying customer for the game-portion of the site. No one pays to use the forums on this site. If a customer does not like something about a place where they are spending their money, they find a new place to spend their money. They don't get to keep demanding that their views be installed in how to run the business. If enough people think and act like you in withholding money, the business will either adapt or die. But a couple of vocal customers can't just walk into a store and fundamentally change how they conduct their business. This suggestion in analogous to a group of customers walking into a store and voting on which employee should be named the manager, regardless of the experience or ability of the named manager. The private sector doesn't work that way.


don't forget though there is a word called "customer service." When you go to a restaurant people don't just throw around you clothes for example they put neatly on a rack. This is because they value customers and therefore the company/restaurant/CC has to fit the consumer/customer. Im just pointing out CC isn't the only online risk community...
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