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Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:18 pm
by trk1994
I may be told to take this somewhere else, but how hard would it be to have a button to "remember my settings" so that I would not have to "ctrl-click" each map I want in my search criteria every time I want to do a search? Sure once in a while i try different maps and/or settings., but I mostly do the same search over and over. With the new system it'll take much longer to enter in the info.

Or how about a "do not include" button for search criteria. For those maps we know we don't play.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:44 pm
by chuck D
too lazy to read all 4 pages of bitching... i tried starting an alexander map, but it doesn't work. tried it on 2 PCs, on IE and firefox... no workee...

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:52 pm
by RayK
I really hate that I can no longer search multiple maps at the same time - this is a real degrade of Game Finder!

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:57 pm
by soka
leave game finder alone but start a game can be as is now idc but also throw in a multi game maker ...so i can make 2 to 50 maps with same setting 1 time

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:51 pm
by TaCktiX
I don't know if it's a bug or what-not, but there is no means to de-select all maps once you've clicked one. I would assume clicking the map again would de-select, but it doesn't. Instead, I have to workaround by either reloading the page, or selecting EVERY map.

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:12 pm
by sully800
TaCktiX wrote:I don't know if it's a bug or what-not, but there is no means to de-select all maps once you've clicked one. I would assume clicking the map again would de-select, but it doesn't. Instead, I have to workaround by either reloading the page, or selecting EVERY map.


ctrl + click

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:13 pm
by sully800
RayK wrote:I really hate that I can no longer search multiple maps at the same time - this is a real degrade of Game Finder!


hold ctrl while selecting maps and you can search for any number of maps

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:25 pm
by saaimen
sully800 wrote:
RayK wrote:I really hate that I can no longer search multiple maps at the same time - this is a real degrade of Game Finder!


hold ctrl while selecting maps and you can search for any number of maps

Same as files on any computer. How easy can it be...

\:D/ Hurray for good change \:D/ ! Anyone ever heard of status-quo-bias? CC community is full of it.

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:50 pm
by go dan m
I always lose my search criterion when clicking on the back button. I'd like this to be addressed. Maybe we can have a search preference?

Thanks!

--

dan

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:08 am
by Downey
I kind of like this idea.
It makes things a lot easier.

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:20 am
by jwzirul
Can't say I am a fan of the new look. Looking at the thumbnails is how I pick which games to start. I like the idea of making this a preference. Is that possible?

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:12 am
by jako
The thumbnail list was in itself awe inspiring and showed off how great CC as a community and a site really is...the new way totally eliminates any sense of that.

All you're given now is some text and a stupid drop down with check boxes. Totally bland, boring and redundant. A step back in my opinion to improving CC.

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:11 am
by ManBungalow
lackattack wrote:Perhaps we add a browse link that opens up a popup window with all map thumbnails?

Why select all maps, when you can select none? Are the instructions not clear?
if you have no preference for a particular criterion, just leave those boxes unchecked

This idea's going well, but I would like to see a "De-Select All" option on the map drop-down list. I accidentally clicked one #-o and my game search wouldn't work until I refreshed the page.

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:31 am
by Fuggazi
The new game finder look really is stupid. Bloody ridiculous having to go through countless searches in order to find a few games to join. I will definitely not be renewing my subscription.

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:49 am
by Allerian
Reading through this thread taught me that the change "helps CC pros point harvest more effectively". Wait, what?

CC appears to be about something other than enjoying a risk-like game. Disappointing. :-s

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:27 am
by max is gr8
I prefer tick boxes to be honest, I think the categorising would be the way to go, with the following:

"Geographical - Real World" - Classic
"Geographical - Fictitious" - Disc world
"Non-Geographical" - Dungeons of Draknor

"Classic Style" - USA (Simple Conquering)
"Simple Changes" - Asia (one use of the one way attack), USApocalypse (negative bonuses)
"Non-Classic Style" i.e. extreme game play changes (Circus Maximus, Draknor etc.)
"Feudal Style" (can't think of a proper name for it) - New World, AoR maps, Feudal War etc.

"Small Maps" - Doodle
"Large Maps" - World 2.1

"Current World" - Luxembourg
"Historic" - WWII

"Continental" - we have one for every continent except Australasia, and Antarctica

Rather than using difficulty level use the historic content. Possibly in future allow frequent map-makers to have their own tab, so Cairnswick could have a tab, as could Widow Maker

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:32 am
by Natewolfman
max is gr8 wrote:I prefer tick boxes to be honest, I think the categorising would be the way to go, with the following:

"Geographical - Real World" - Classic
"Geographical - Fictitious" - Disc world
"Non-Geographical" - Dungeons of Draknor

"Classic Style" - USA (Simple Conquering)
"Simple Changes" - Asia (one use of the one way attack), USApocalypse (negative bonuses)
"Non-Classic Style" i.e. extreme game play changes (Circus Maximus, Draknor etc.)
"Feudal Style" (can't think of a proper name for it) - New World, AoR maps, Feudal War etc.

"Small Maps" - Doodle
"Large Maps" - World 2.1

"Current World" - Luxembourg
"Historic" - WWII

"Continental" - we have one for every continent except Australasia, and Antarctica

Rather than using difficulty level use the historic content. Possibly in future allow frequent map-makers to have their own tab, so Cairnswick could have a tab, as could Widow Maker

I place my support 100% behind this :lol:

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:07 am
by thedestro
I liked the old way better. The scroll box looks unappealing not to mention it takes longer to find/start a game if you just want to browse through the maps.
Why the change? Less load on server or something?

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:32 am
by The Neon Peon
The new game start is a ton better. The only reason people are complaining is because they actually have to think about the alphabet.

As for the game finder... I never use that function for multiple maps, but I can see how it can be annoying.

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:39 am
by ManBungalow
The Neon Peon wrote:The only reason people are complaining is because they actually have to think about the alphabet.

:lol: :lol:
I disagree slightly:
People are willing to put the brainpower into taking over the world and it's subcontinents etc, but are not willing to scroll down a list ?

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:36 pm
by sully800
The only reason people are complaining is because people don't know how to use ctrl (and the lack of a gallery showing all maps at once.

I swear every other complaint is I can't select multiple maps or I can't deselect a map. This seems obvious to lack and others who are familiar with using ctrl in browsing files but I guess that is not a universal knowledge and needs more explanation.

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:29 pm
by ManBungalow
sully800 wrote:The only reason people are complaining is because people don't know how to use ctrl (and the lack of a gallery showing all maps at once.

I swear every other complaint is I can't select multiple maps or I can't deselect a map. This seems obvious to lack and others who are familiar with using ctrl in browsing files but I guess that is not a universal knowledge and needs more explanation.

We now have a multiple select reminder, and a link allowing you to view all of the maps !

Thanks Lack ;)

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:30 pm
by lackattack
Thanks for the feedback everyone!

On the Start A Game form I added a link to browse all maps, and fixed the Alexander's Empire bug.

On the Game Finder form I also added a link to browse all maps, and instructions on selecting multiple maps.

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:37 pm
by ManBungalow
Fuggazi wrote:The new game finder look really is stupid. Bloody ridiculous having to go through countless searches in order to find a few games to join. I will definitely not be renewing my subscription.

You now have instructions as to how you select multiple maps, I don't see any problem with this whatsoever; and these improvements are steadily making up for the recent issues (with the Classic map, and so on).
;)

Re: Consolidate map list [Done]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:10 pm
by W F Crappeshotte
Awful change. I like to play on half a dozen "favourite" maps, and having to repeatedly scroll down through the list and pick them out is tiresome in the extreme. This has definitely made things more awkward.