KraphtOne wrote:Just want to comment about the MAJOR flaw i see in changing this policy...
Most freestyle games i play i double turn almost every turn, and here's why...
If the other player ends their turn first and then i end my turn, they have first shot at the next round... A LOT of players take advantage of this by using delay tactics and waiting till you aren't paying attention to start their turn and wipe you out, so that when you start your turn you have no bonus and no territories...
To combat this i just wait till the timer runs out... The other player can see exactly when the timer is going to run out, and show up at that time... There is nothing cheap about the double turn because my opponent knows EXACTLY when i'm going to start my turn...
But without waiting for the timer to expire i have no clue when my opponent will start their turn, thus giving them a major advantage...
I do not see the double turn as any kind of cheap tactic, if anything it allows that there is no way that either player can get a head start on one another...
If you don't like someone taking double turns don't play freestyle... Because the way it is set up right now is a perfect way to ensure that no-one gets any kinda of random turn order advantage...
~K1
I see what you mean. Good post. There is only one problem I see right now.
Many people think double turns are illegal on the site or as a law in society. For example, there is something in society that says hitting someone in the back (when they are unaware that you are even fighting) or hitting someone when they are down (although I personally disagree with this one) is not right. Same with double turns. While there is no rule against them, it is really unfair to be using them against a person who is not using delay tactics or taking double turns because they think it is not allowed.
Out of the 137 casual freestyle games I played, I can't recall one instance when someone used a double turn. Had I not been going to the forums, I would still think that taking a double turn is illegal. No doubt there are thousands of people on the scoreboard who think it is not right because they never see anyone else do it.
While yes, you could say that they are being dumb and that they should simply read the rules... where in the rules does it say that you can't run up to someone and throw a good hard punch at the back of their neck after you have lost a fight and they are walking away? Answer: nowhere, so why don't people do it? Because society is against it. There is nothing "cheap" with double turns, but society think of it as so. Why do you think demonfork has "cheap tactics" in so many ratings?
Personally, I think a norm has to be set. If someone like lack or Andy would put in one of their announcements "hey everyone, just want to clarify that taking double turns and using scripts is OK with us," then I could see no problem with using them. But until then, I am not going to hit someone in the back of the head if 99% of people in the world think it's wrong.