Chariot of Fire wrote:Can I take it from the precedent being set here that it's OK for all members of TOFU, myself excluded, to meet every weekend in a remote cabin where there's no internet access. I'll be covering all their turns, from end-of-work Friday until Monday morning. Oh....and this will go on forever.
See my point?
I will give you my opinion from clan viewpoint...
When I informed OSA that Moonchild will be away every weekend then I also said my own maximum number of games played in the challenge wil be 14 of 20 allowed. In other 6 games I included sitting for OzBloke in Hive quads, sitting for Moonchild every weekend, and some single turns sat by other players during their absence. I always try to make honest self evaluating of how much all my turns sat would be traslated in my real games played, in OSA challenge my prediction was all sitting together are not more than 6 games total so 14 games played plus all sittings done is not more than 20 games total. In AoC challenge, I evaluated that like 11 games played plus some turns sitting will not go over more than 13 games (33% of 41) which I am allowed to play by myself. This is approximate self evaluation, and I try to be always maximal fair when doing that self-sitting-turn-evaluation. This self evaluation I have always done since my the first clan war on CC. Whoever count my games played in any war, he can see that it has never reached maximal number of allowed games. I am the most often online of all KORT players so because of that reason (not because of reason of "better skill") they the most often rely on me to be sitter of someone.
On the contrary, Chariot of Fire in Clan League 4 Phase 2 played 28 of 28 maximal allowed games by himself, and in addition sat many turns for many players, intentionally hidding it, as proved in this thread
viewtopic.php?f=239&t=174462. He has also played 21 of 20 allowed games in KORT TOFU war from October 2010. Ok, lets say that he played 20 of 20 games, because one more was honest mistake. But at the same time he was sitting for 12 players during that war, varying from one turn sit to many turns sit per player.
So to give my opinion on your question, I do not think it is ok to play maximal allowed games by yourself, and do sitting for the whole clan during weekends. If you know you will need sitting for the whole clan during every weekend, then join zero games by yourself, and that will be ok.
I think there lies real problem of player sitting in clan wars, because player who plays maximal allowed games by himself, and in addition to that is sitting for many other players during the war, is totally overused player and therefore his clan gets illegal advantage. I think that is direction where clan world should go in solving sitting problem. First step is to be honest about sitting, what I always do, by posting every sitting in chat, and not everyone do it. After that, next step is being fair player and if you are aware that you did many sitting then do not join maximal allowed own games, be honest and make self evaluation how many games your sitting done is worth. Or, do the described counting actions officially by site feature, like saying one sitting done is 1/5 of the game or something like that, but in that case sitting counter need to be implemented by the site. Just some suggestion how to improve cases of possible overusing players during clan wars.