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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby dt03457 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:25 pm

On July 7, 2009 there was a comment in this post about hovering the mouse over a tert and seeing:

"Territories on the map: Highlight (with a certain convention) the territories that border this territory.
6 different options atm: Border (2-way attack), attack-only, defend-only, bombard, bombarded by, mutual bombard"

I see the six different conventions on the map, but don't have a key to tell me what is what. Some I have figured out and some I think i know, but I would like to be certain. Does someone have the map legend/key?

Thanks!!
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby ender516 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:53 am

dt03457 wrote:On July 7, 2009 there was a comment in this post about hovering the mouse over a tert and seeing:

"Territories on the map: Highlight (with a certain convention) the territories that border this territory.
6 different options atm: Border (2-way attack), attack-only, defend-only, bombard, bombarded by, mutual bombard"

I see the six different conventions on the map, but don't have a key to tell me what is what. Some I have figured out and some I think i know, but I would like to be certain. Does someone have the map legend/key?

Thanks!!

Well, the help page for BOB, although out of date, included this (I think). However, that is a dead link now, so we should see about recovering and rehosting that. (It would likely be best to embed in BOB itself.) However, all is not lost. In addition to the markers on the map, there is a small region of text on the Game Page entitled Map Inspect. It is just below the My Spoils line, which is below the Game Type, etc., which is directly below the map image. When you are hovering, not only do icons appear on the map, the name of the territory over which you are hovering appears after the words "Map Inspect:" and below that, those same icons appear with an explanatory keyword like "Borders" and the list of territories in that category, with the number of troops on each territory as well.
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby dt03457 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:13 am

ender516,

LOL...Thanks!!! I must be blind as i have never noticed the "Map Inspect:" before, or if I did, I totally ignored it. That works perfectly. Thanks for the tip, it will certainly help me a great deal on some of the maps I play
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby cmbdiesel on Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:50 pm

OK... what up with the link in post 1 to download BOB??
All I get is a bunch of adware and crap.... no BOB.

Is there a different source than the link that is going to take me an hour to clean off my computer?
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby ender516 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:58 pm

When you get to the userscripts.org page for BOB, be sure to click the Install button in the top right corner. Don't be fooled by enormous "Download Now" buttons that are in fact ads. (I think they are labelled as ads, but it can be hard to spot.)
Perhaps we should change the link from the /show/ form to the /install/ form.
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby cmbdiesel on Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:57 pm

ender516 wrote:When you get to the userscripts.org page for BOB, be sure to click the Install button in the top right corner. Don't be fooled by enormous "Download Now" buttons that are in fact ads. (I think they are labelled as ads, but it can be hard to spot.)
Perhaps we should change the link from the /show/ form to the /install/ form.

Thanks... figured it out. Thought I was savvy enough to avoid those kinds of things, but nooooo...;-)

Got BOB, up and running. Very cool, now I just have to sort out what everything is...
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby Crazyirishman on Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:58 pm

BOB, clickies, and assault odds all stopped working on me last night, I tried uninstalling and reinstalling everything, but to no avail
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby ender516 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:54 pm

You didn't accidentally disable Greasemonkey, did you? Have you tried reinstalling it?
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby Crazyirishman on Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:43 am

ender516 wrote:You didn't accidentally disable Greasemonkey, did you? Have you tried reinstalling it?


Yes I checked to see if I accidentally disabled it, but it was enabled. I then uninstalled and reinstalled greasemonkey but the add ons still aren't working for me. Every time I try to download I just get the script page and the code used for the code.
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby ender516 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:30 pm

Crazyirishman wrote:
ender516 wrote:You didn't accidentally disable Greasemonkey, did you? Have you tried reinstalling it?


Yes I checked to see if I accidentally disabled it, but it was enabled. I then uninstalled and reinstalled greasemonkey but the add ons still aren't working for me. Every time I try to download I just get the script page and the code used for the code.

Does this happen for all scripts, or just BOB?

EDIT:

A quick thought: go to the Firefox Options dialog and open the Applications panel. Check the content types to see if something is set for Javascript files (.js, .user.js, text/javascript, ...) I'm not sure how it might appear, as there is nothing in there on my machine, but that is the point: my downloads work - Greasemonkey puts up a dialog which does a three second countdown, then enables the Install button. If you are not seeing this, then something is keeping Greasemonkey from working on the file, and it may be in that Applications panel.
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby Crazyirishman on Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:34 pm

ender516 wrote:
Crazyirishman wrote:
ender516 wrote:You didn't accidentally disable Greasemonkey, did you? Have you tried reinstalling it?


Yes I checked to see if I accidentally disabled it, but it was enabled. I then uninstalled and reinstalled greasemonkey but the add ons still aren't working for me. Every time I try to download I just get the script page and the code.

Does this happen for all scripts, or just BOB?


All scripts that I tried: BOB clickies, map rank, and assault odds.
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby ender516 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:44 pm

Whoops, didn't see you were on line. Check my edit above.
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby Crazyirishman on Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:19 pm

ender516 wrote:A quick thought: go to the Firefox Options dialog and open the Applications panel. Check the content types to see if something is set for Javascript files (.js, .user.js, text/javascript, ...) I'm not sure how it might appear, as there is nothing in there on my machine, but that is the point: my downloads work - Greasemonkey puts up a dialog which does a three second countdown, then enables the Install button. If you are not seeing this, then something is keeping Greasemonkey from working on the file, and it may be in that Applications panel.


Thanks for the info, but I checked the applications tab and there was nothing for anything javascript related files. Im not sure what would stop greasmonkey from doing that, as I only have a few things in that tab.
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby ender516 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:26 pm

All I can suggest at this point is to start eliminating other add-ons and plugins from Firefox. Alternatively, you could set up a fresh profile in Firefox and work your way up.
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby Crazyirishman on Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:37 pm

ender516 wrote:All I can suggest at this point is to start eliminating other add-ons and plugins from Firefox. Alternatively, you could set up a fresh profile in Firefox and work your way up.


Thanks I committed the great purge of firefox and was able to get everything back. I'm still not sure what the issue was because all me plugins were intact, but I guess that doesn't matter now.
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby ender516 on Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:30 pm

I didn't want to propose a full reinstall of Firefox, but I'm glad it worked out.
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby anamainiacks on Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:04 am

I noticed that on USApocalypse, BOB says that 3 radiated territories gives -1 troops, when it should really be 0 troops. Not sure if this has been raised before, but is this a glitch?
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby ender516 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:54 am

Do you have an example game or a screenshot?
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby anamainiacks on Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:08 pm

ender516 wrote:Do you have an example game or a screenshot?

Game 12543690.
sandman175 is holding Dallas, Illinois and Old New Amsterdam.
BOB shows "Radiation Effects (-1)", and troops due as 6.
CC's stats correctly lists it as 7.

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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby ender516 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:38 pm

Hmm, apparently the XML on this map has been modified recently in order to take advantage of the new collections feature which provides progressive bonuses for holding varying numbers of territories in a bonus zone. Previously there was a complicated interlocking set of continents which provided the peculiar progression of values. Now the code is simpler, but at first glance I am not convinced that it is equivalent to the old code or that it provides the numbers listed on the map legend. I will investigate further and let you know what I find.

EDIT:

Okay, since this XML has been up for a month at least, if the bonuses were not working properly, there would have been a great hue and cry, and what I read in the XML Guide has straightened me out (when all else fails, RTFM). So the problem is that BOB does not understand how to report collections. Okay, that goes on the list of things to fix.
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby chapcrap on Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:22 am

ender516 wrote:Hmm, apparently the XML on this map has been modified recently in order to take advantage of the new collections feature which provides progressive bonuses for holding varying numbers of territories in a bonus zone. Previously there was a complicated interlocking set of continents which provided the peculiar progression of values. Now the code is simpler, but at first glance I am not convinced that it is equivalent to the old code or that it provides the numbers listed on the map legend. I will investigate further and let you know what I find.

EDIT:

Okay, since this XML has been up for a month at least, if the bonuses were not working properly, there would have been a great hue and cry, and what I read in the XML Guide has straightened me out (when all else fails, RTFM). So the problem is that BOB does not understand how to report collections. Okay, that goes on the list of things to fix.

It's already been noted that there was an issue with the new XML.

See here: viewtopic.php?f=527&t=161049&start=240#p4090687
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Re: BOB 5.2.4 on Chrome?

Postby johnkelly00 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:17 pm

Chrome tells me that I cannot install scripts from the official linked source. Any suggestions on how to get around this would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby ender516 on Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:30 am

Go to the top of this page and enter "Chrome" in the "Search this topic" field. You will see a number of recent posts which should be of help.
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby didosdildo on Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:36 am

Not sure if this has been covered but I'll ask anyway.
I'm on my dad's new laptop and I've installed BOB and the greasemonkey.
The problem I'm having is that when I get a message or try to access the forums it says I need to log in, even though when I return to my games i'm still logged in.
What have I done wrong?
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Re: BOB 5.2.4

Postby Abyss24 on Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:41 am

Update on BOB install issue: I was finally able to fix this.

I was unable to install BOB on my new computer despite trying all the suggestions: re-install Greasemonkey, clean reinstall Firefox, cut and paste the text field, etc.

What finally worked was" I clicked on "Help" in the Firefox menu bar and , then selected the second option "Troubleshooting Information", then lastly clicked the button at the top right "Reset Firefox". It saved my cookies and bookmarks, everything else was cleared out, including Greasemonkey, which did not occur when I ran the clean Firefox re-install. I then followed the install Greasemonkey and install BOB links provided at the beginning of this thread.

Just wanted to throw this out there for anyone else who may be having this problem. Ender 516: thanks for your help, you got me past the initial BOB install issue I was having that I couldn't figure out, just wanted to pass this fix on to you in case someone else runs in to this problem.
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