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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby AyeTrain on Sun May 13, 2012 7:51 am

Thanks to you both for the help.

I removed BOB and restarted FF, which now tells me that no user scripts are installed (it did show there before). If I go to the install page and click the Install button, however, all I get is a text page that starts:
// Conquer Club - Card Counter, Card Redemption Value, Status Indicator
var versionString = "5.2.3";
// This monkey is now called:

///// //// /////
// // // // // //
///// // // /////
// // // // // //
///// //// /////

// PLEASE READ ALL THE COMMENTS AT THE START OF THIS FILE BEFORE EDITING

//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
// Installation
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
// This is a Greasemonkey user script.

// To use, first install Greasemonkey: http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org/
// Then restart Firefox and revisit this script.
// Under Tools, there will be a new menu item to "Install User Script".
// Accept the default configuration and install.

// To uninstall, go to Tools/Manage User Scripts, select "Conquer Club - BOB", and click Uninstall.


Is there a history, cache, or cookie that needs clearing? It acts to me like FF thinks it's still installed.
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby sherkaner on Sun May 13, 2012 8:44 am

Sounds like greasemonkey is disabled, it shouldn't show that code otherwise.
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby AyeTrain on Mon May 14, 2012 9:01 am

The only option was to disable Greasemonkey, so it is clearly enabled.

I uninstalled Greasemonkey, restarted FF, and downloaded/installed Greasemonkey again. But I still just get the code page when trying to install BOB (I also looked in the registry for any mention of Greasemonkey after the uninstall and found nothing). I could uninstall/reinstall FF (though I would think the upgrade would've had the same effect), and if that didn't work rebuild the computer, but both of those are pretty drastic.

I was able to install BOB for Chrome though, so I'll just play my CC games in Chrome, unless someone else can think of another suggestion.
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby ender516 on Mon May 14, 2012 9:58 am

Just to be clear: Greasemonkey is enabled if the monkey face icon is in full colour, and there is a checkmark next to the word Enabled in the Greasemonkey dropdown menu. It is disabled if the face is faded, and there is no checkmark.
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby agentcom on Wed May 16, 2012 12:49 am

Is there any way of knowing what percentage of players use this script? I would be particularly interested in knowing what percentage of high-ranking players use it?

I don't know how you feel about gathering this information, but if there's a way to do it, it would be very cool. Even if you just could get a snapshot of the current users one time (rather than continuous reporting), it would be interesting. I may be falling to a fallacy here: "I use it. I'm a good player. Same for the people that I play games with. Therefore all good players must use it." But I really would be surprised if less than 90% of Colonel's used this plug-in.
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby sherkaner on Wed May 16, 2012 4:04 am

No, the only numbers I have are from a long time ago, if I updated the script it tended to get just above 1000 hits in the next 3 days (which means about 1000 installs, and some people will put it on multiple computers). I think now it will still be around that number. And of course high ranking players tend to use the forum and if they don't play freestyle they'll probably have BOB.
90%-number might be a bit high, mainly because of freestyle.
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby agentcom on Wed May 16, 2012 12:54 pm

sherkaner wrote:No, the only numbers I have are from a long time ago, if I updated the script it tended to get just above 1000 hits in the next 3 days (which means about 1000 installs, and some people will put it on multiple computers). I think now it will still be around that number. And of course high ranking players tend to use the forum and if they don't play freestyle they'll probably have BOB.
90%-number might be a bit high, mainly because of freestyle.


I didn't know that freestyle players don't like BOB ... why is that?

But even with 1000 installs the rate among top players has got to be pretty high. There are around 1500 players who are Majors or above and only about 400 that are Colonels or above. If you subtracted out the mainly freestyle players, I would imagine that you would get 90%+ coverage among non-freestyle Colonels. But this is just a conjecture based on the people that I play with (an admittedly small sample).
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby Dako on Thu May 17, 2012 8:12 am

agentcom wrote:I didn't know that freestyle players don't like BOB ... why is that?

But even with 1000 installs the rate among top players has got to be pretty high. There are around 1500 players who are Majors or above and only about 400 that are Colonels or above. If you subtracted out the mainly freestyle players, I would imagine that you would get 90%+ coverage among non-freestyle Colonels. But this is just a conjecture based on the people that I play with (an admittedly small sample).


Becauseestyle is about speed. Usually you play it on the map you know well so you don't need BOB. And also BOB does slow down the browser and every nanosecond matters in freestyle.
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby GeneralRisk on Thu May 17, 2012 11:39 am

HELP plz................I can take snapshots but I cannot see any
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby John Deere on Thu May 17, 2012 2:24 pm

same here.... :(
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby Leehar on Thu May 17, 2012 3:22 pm

GeneralRisk wrote:HELP plz................I can take snapshots but I cannot see any

Yeah, it's been up-and-down.
I sometimes also have the issue of past snapshots giving weird random numbers and colours for the field placings (neutral stacks pop up etc)
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby Squirly on Sat May 19, 2012 7:26 pm

Bob isn't working for me today.
I can't see any of my snapshots that were left in the chat, no map inspect or whatever you call it.
I'm surprised I'm the 1st to report this, I don't think its a prob w/my computer
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby DiM on Sat May 19, 2012 7:30 pm

Squirly wrote:Bob isn't working for me today.
I can't see any of my snapshots that were left in the chat, no map inspect or whatever you call it.
I'm surprised I'm the 1st to report this, I don't think its a prob w/my computer



it's working just fine for me.
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby agentcom on Sat May 19, 2012 10:09 pm

I haven't noticed anything ...
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby ender516 on Sat May 19, 2012 10:16 pm

Squirly wrote:Bob isn't working for me today.
I can't see any of my snapshots that were left in the chat, no map inspect or whatever you call it.
I'm surprised I'm the 1st to report this, I don't think its a prob w/my computer

Since BOB has not been updated in the last few days, and no one else is reporting a complete BOB-out, I tend to think that it is a problem local to you. Check that both Greasemonkey and BOB are enabled. Can you see the BOB menu at the left? What do you see in the chat where your snapshots should have been?
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby GeneralRisk on Sun May 20, 2012 1:13 am

Squirly wrote:Bob isn't working for me today.
I can't see any of my snapshots that were left in the chat, no map inspect or whatever you call it.
I'm surprised I'm the 1st to report this, I don't think its a prob w/my computer
I have the same problem
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby sherkaner on Sun May 20, 2012 2:57 am

GeneralRisk wrote:
Squirly wrote:Bob isn't working for me today.
I can't see any of my snapshots that were left in the chat, no map inspect or whatever you call it.
I'm surprised I'm the 1st to report this, I don't think its a prob w/my computer
I have the same problem

Ok, I'll guess it's firefox you're using. If nothing shows up (not even the menu at the left side, in-game at least if I hear the description) and greasemonkey is enabled and you have the scripts installed (ctrl-shift-a to go to addons and check), the most likely cause is that there is some error being thrown in the script itself.

If that is the case, the error would help me a lot. To retrieve (I think I told this a few times already, maybe I should mention it somewhere central..):
ctrl-shift-j to open the console, clear it, select only errors (warnings are irrelevant) and reload a page that should have displayed BOB. If you get any errors displayed there, please give me the error (PM/post here).
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby Catarah on Sun May 20, 2012 5:16 am

agentcom wrote:
sherkaner wrote:No, the only numbers I have are from a long time ago, if I updated the script it tended to get just above 1000 hits in the next 3 days (which means about 1000 installs, and some people will put it on multiple computers). I think now it will still be around that number. And of course high ranking players tend to use the forum and if they don't play freestyle they'll probably have BOB.
90%-number might be a bit high, mainly because of freestyle.


I didn't know that freestyle players don't like BOB ... why is that?

But even with 1000 installs the rate among top players has got to be pretty high. There are around 1500 players who are Majors or above and only about 400 that are Colonels or above. If you subtracted out the mainly freestyle players, I would imagine that you would get 90%+ coverage among non-freestyle Colonels. But this is just a conjecture based on the people that I play with (an admittedly small sample).


even though i´m sure most use it, i´d think 90% is a bit high estimate. there are already ~2500 players Captain or higher. thats less then 50% of the 1800+ players use it. now even though the higher rank you have, the more likely you are to use it, i would think that it is less clustered at the top rank, i'd think lots of captains and majors also use it. you might still get anywhere from 60 to 80% of the non-freestyle Colonels, but 90% stil seems a bit high.

but ah well, we'll never know :P
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby GeneralRisk on Sun May 20, 2012 8:27 am

sherkaner wrote:
GeneralRisk wrote:
Squirly wrote:Bob isn't working for me today.
I can't see any of my snapshots that were left in the chat, no map inspect or whatever you call it.
I'm surprised I'm the 1st to report this, I don't think its a prob w/my computer
I have the same problem

Ok, I'll guess it's firefox you're using. If nothing shows up (not even the menu at the left side, in-game at least if I hear the description) and greasemonkey is enabled and you have the scripts installed (ctrl-shift-a to go to addons and check), the most likely cause is that there is some error being thrown in the script itself.

If that is the case, the error would help me a lot. To retrieve (I think I told this a few times already, maybe I should mention it somewhere central..):
ctrl-shift-j to open the console, clear it, select only errors (warnings are irrelevant) and reload a page that should have displayed BOB. If you get any errors displayed there, please give me the error (PM/post here).

I was using 3.5 ff and downloaded 12...i reinstalled both bob and greasemonkey....I have the BoB menu and in chat there is snapshots....I can take snapshots...Just cant see any.
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby Squirly on Mon May 21, 2012 11:56 am

ender516 wrote:
Squirly wrote:Bob isn't working for me today.
I can't see any of my snapshots that were left in the chat, no map inspect or whatever you call it.
I'm surprised I'm the 1st to report this, I don't think its a prob w/my computer

Since BOB has not been updated in the last few days, and no one else is reporting a complete BOB-out, I tend to think that it is a problem local to you. Check that both Greasemonkey and BOB are enabled. Can you see the BOB menu at the left? What do you see in the chat where your snapshots should have been?

Well, I don't know what happened but I couldn't see the Bob menu on the left when I was in a game.
Before Sherk left some instructions, I clicked on the arrow next to the monkey face, messed around with some stuff (not sure what), then I changed some of the settings in the Bob menu ( I could see it when I wasn't in a game), It seemed that some of he Bob stuff was turned off. Then I restarted my computer and things were back to normal.
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby GeneralRisk on Tue May 22, 2012 2:56 am

My bob is ok now. Some update on ff fixed the problem.
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby Leehar on Tue May 22, 2012 11:17 am

Chrome's still messing up my older snapshots, and Idk how to do the error console thing there either
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby drunkmonkey on Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:57 am

I don't know if this is the place for BOB suggestions, but would it be possible to change the text on the snapshots in the chat log, to indicate whose turn was up when the snap was taken? I think it would be helpful if instead of the link reading "snapshot round 1", it said something like "snapshot round 1 - drunkmonkey turn". This would make it easier to look at the history in quad games, instead of going back and forth comparing the time of the snaps to the times in the game log.

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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby agentcom on Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:05 pm

That would be kind of nice. I always have to flip back and forth between game log and chat log and look at time stamps, which gets annoying since I have one at the top and one at the bottom of the screen.
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Re: BOB 5.2.3

Postby ender516 on Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:12 pm

agentcom wrote:That would be kind of nice. I always have to flip back and forth between game log and chat log and look at time stamps, which gets annoying since I have one at the top and one at the bottom of the screen.

I have often thought that a merged game/chat log would be a nice option, with the chat being italicized, say, or the game log entries being bold, so that they are easy to distinguish.
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