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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby johnkelly00 on Sun May 16, 2010 11:38 am

I think the idea is amazing. I absolutely detest 1v1 games any more - especially on maps with lots of territs. The first mover has a definite advantage and, unless they are completely skill-less, will win a good percentage of the time.

My alternative suggestion is an option (or maybe just a default setting) that the first mover gets half incoming troops on the first round only. This minimizes the first mover advantage a bit - again particularly in games with lots of territs, this works well.
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby iamkoolerthanu on Sun May 16, 2010 12:29 pm

I think alot of the voters have mis-read the poll question.. I did at first, and by some of the responses I am reading, it seems like other people are mis-reading it as well.
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby mattattam on Sun May 16, 2010 12:52 pm

iamkoolerthanu wrote:I think alot of the voters have mis-read the poll question.. I did at first, and by some of the responses I am reading, it seems like other people are mis-reading it as well.


I misread it at first as well. It seems like a fourth of the people that have commented don't realize it is 1vteam that we are voting on. I think it should be made more clear by a bold statement in the first post stating at the beginning that this poll is about 1vteam
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby Lubawski on Sun May 16, 2010 2:59 pm

If it's 1v1 (and this is simply adding each player having two or three of themselves in games, I see that as an improvement to the 1v1 format that relies too heavily on 1st turn. Points earned would be the same (not three times as much for trips, let's say).

If it's 1v a team, I think that's a horrible idea. Play with yourself like normal people. Join a porn site. This would certainly be a way for the top farmers on the site to continue to do so. They would farm their points three times as fast.
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby nippersean on Sun May 16, 2010 3:28 pm

I think it's a fine proposal.

Not voting 'cos 1 vs team can come later (maybe) - one step at a time.

1 v 1 dubs, trips, quads style- love it.

Of course it won't ruin genuine trips games, much like the car never ruined the joy of running. Or the vibrator....never mind.
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby edwinissweet on Sun May 16, 2010 4:05 pm

I see that a few people have commented on it becoming a farmer issue. I think that farmers will take advantage of whatever they can, but the rest of the community shouldnt miss out on something because of it. A team doest have to play you.. its just an option, a variation. Im not good at freestyle, but its there for whenever i want to try.

Also, i think that if you are going to get points from 4 people, that you are putting yourself on the line 4 times. If a farmer were to seek low ranks to play, a game like this could cost him 200-300 points.
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby Timminz on Sun May 16, 2010 4:23 pm

I love the 1v1 version of this, but I strongly oppose the 1vteam idea. I just can't see how it would be successful. I personally, would probably never join with a team, against a single person.
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby ArgoW on Sun May 16, 2010 4:30 pm

crap hit the yes vote cause i toght whould be like 200 no and 5 yes just to show som pity.... but yes is in the lead... what have i done!!!! LOL hehe na its always fun to try new stuff so whatever happens just trow the dice and move left or right
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby AndyDufresne on Sun May 16, 2010 4:37 pm

Timminz wrote:I love the 1v1 version of this, but I strongly oppose the 1vteam idea. I just can't see how it would be successful. I personally, would probably never join with a team, against a single person.


Agreed here. 1vs1 team games is one of the best new ideas I've seen for a long time! And it is something I'd definitely support. But I wouldn't want to see handicap or 3 way games like that.


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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby mattattam on Sun May 16, 2010 5:13 pm

edwinissweet wrote:
Also, i think that if you are going to get points from 4 people, that you are putting yourself on the line 4 times. If a farmer were to seek low ranks to play, a game like this could cost him 200-300 points.


That is a really good point. The potential to lose that many points could deter farming. Personally I don't see why people care about farmers.
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby stahrgazer on Tue May 18, 2010 9:20 am

ahunda wrote:As for some more specific questions in the last posts:

Point calculation in 1vteam: As was discussed in this thread, the single player would indeed put twice his points on the line in a Dubs, thrice in a Trips, etc. This was seen as a balance to his advantage of not needing to communicate & co-ordinate his strategy. (As I said: I´m not particularly interested in / fond of this option.)

Medals: The suggestion was made, that 1v1 team games should not count for regular team medals. I am not sure, if they could fit into any other medal category (I doubt it), or if there maybe could be a new 1v1 medal.


If a player is taking up several spots, he should indeed lose more than if he's only taking up one spot on a team. Perhaps lack could code it so that a 1-quad player loses his normal points plus 75%, a trips loses normal plus 50% and a dubs loses normal points plus 25% - more losses than normal, but not double, and lose more based on the number of spots he's taking.

As for medals... I strongly believe this type of play should not count for the existing 'Normal team" medals; and if I knew they wouldn't, I'd change my vote to support the option. I mean, think about it... this isn't a team; it's a single player who's using several colors to play against someone else or a group of others using their colors. If the single player wins against a team of 4 different players, that could count as 4 kills on the single player standard medal, but shouldn't count as kills on quads team medals.
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby agonzos on Tue May 18, 2010 1:44 pm

I love the 1v1 idea, but the 1vteam idea is horrible. Too many options that need to me implemented when creating the game and I don't see any real benefit to it for anyone playing it.

I think if it is implemented with just 1v1 being an option, then it should count as a singles medal, since you are still only having 2 players playing.
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby MudPuppy on Tue May 18, 2010 2:16 pm

The 1v1 team option is a no-brainer and should be at the top of the list for future site improvements. I voted 'yes' for the 1vteam option as well but that would just be a small add-on to the more important goal of improving the gaming experience for 1v1'ers on this site. I kinda think it would be an interesting option to take on a multi-player team single-handedly.

As long as it is built so that multi-player teams can create games with the ability to restrict 1-player teams from joining, then I see no problem with the 1vteam option.
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby nippersean on Tue May 18, 2010 2:17 pm

mattattam wrote:
edwinissweet wrote:
Also, i think that if you are going to get points from 4 people, that you are putting yourself on the line 4 times. If a farmer were to seek low ranks to play, a game like this could cost him 200-300 points.


That is a really good point. The potential to lose that many points could deter farming. Personally I don't see why people care about farmers.


Not really (i.e totally the opposite). If a decent quads team put in for a public game - they could hammered by an expert at quads who would get 60 pts a pop.
It would be the way to go to make conqueror.
It may discourage people from leaving public games open to be picked off (when they thought it'd be team vs team).

I think this proposal should get back on track.

It's a great 1v1 idea.
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby edwinissweet on Tue May 18, 2010 2:34 pm

nippersean wrote:
mattattam wrote:
edwinissweet wrote:
Also, i think that if you are going to get points from 4 people, that you are putting yourself on the line 4 times. If a farmer were to seek low ranks to play, a game like this could cost him 200-300 points.


That is a really good point. The potential to lose that many points could deter farming. Personally I don't see why people care about farmers.


Not really (i.e totally the opposite). If a decent quads team put in for a public game - they could hammered by an expert at quads who would get 60 pts a pop.
It would be the way to go to make conqueror.
It may discourage people from leaving public games open to be picked off (when they thought it'd be team vs team).

I think this proposal should get back on track.

It's a great 1v1 idea.



before the game opened you would be able to choose if your game is a normal quads, or if its a 1 vs team
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby mattattam on Tue May 18, 2010 8:24 pm

You didn't say anything in your reply edwin lol
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby edwinissweet on Tue May 18, 2010 9:22 pm

i typed inside his quote by accident lol. i fixed it
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby natty dread on Wed May 19, 2010 11:54 am

1vteam sounds like a horrible idea to me. 1v1, meh, I don't much care for 1v1 anyway ...but if people want that I guess it could be a fun novelty.
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Re: 1v1 Team Games [last call baby]

Postby Queen_Herpes on Thu May 20, 2010 12:55 am

1vteam seems like a great way for multis to earn points. But it would also be a really easy way for mods to discover the multis. If people like it...make it happen!
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Re: 1v1 Team Games [last call baby]

Postby josko.ri on Thu May 20, 2010 5:39 pm

Queen_Herpes wrote:1vteam seems like a great way for multis to earn points. But it would also be a really easy way for mods to discover the multis. If people like it...make it happen!

not agree. for multis easier way for taking points is normal 1 vs 1, the game is over sooner.
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Re: 1v1 Team Games

Postby Bruceswar on Thu May 20, 2010 7:01 pm

mattattam wrote:
edwinissweet wrote:
Also, i think that if you are going to get points from 4 people, that you are putting yourself on the line 4 times. If a farmer were to seek low ranks to play, a game like this could cost him 200-300 points.


That is a really good point. The potential to lose that many points could deter farming. Personally I don't see why people care about farmers.


Huh? Really? You do know this will work just like a team game in scoring. It will be team total vs team total.. So if 1 vs team was put in. Then it would come into play... if not then 1 vs 1 team would be as normal.
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Re: 1v1 Team Games [last call baby]

Postby ljex on Fri May 21, 2010 3:50 pm

I agree with 1 vs 1 team but not 1 vs team
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Re: 1v1 Team Games [last call baby]

Postby iamkoolerthanu on Fri May 21, 2010 11:00 pm

ljex wrote:I agree with 1 vs 1 team but not 1 vs team
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Re: 1v1 Team Games [last call baby]

Postby caymanmew on Fri May 21, 2010 11:18 pm

how would you play it freestyle?
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Re: 1v1 Team Games [last call baby]

Postby -=- Tanarri -=- on Sat May 22, 2010 12:59 am

I would imagine that you would have control over all colours at the same time.
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