[Forum] Usergroup Leader Powers

[blakebowling]

BTW: I was assuming that current moderators had the permission to give warnings via the MCP (not just by sending warning PM's)

You're not the best at making assumptions.

I picked something that I knew clan moderators wouldn't get.

[barterer2002]

I just assume that Blake knows everything that he claims to and take his word as gospel.

[InsomniaRed]

This is why I have an off-site forum for my clan.

[cpurcell]

This is why I have an off-site forum for my clan.

Might be a good idea, but it would be better if they could fix it . Though that will be an option that I'll have to look into depending on how the code writing stuff goes.
---C

[cicero]

Topics merged:

Usergroup / Clan Leaders Powers - posts 2 July 2008 to 25 October 2008 - first post here
Granting Private Forum Moderator Privileges to Clan Leaders - posts 25 to 26 October 2008 - first post here

Note the very first post in the merged thread which makes it clear that this feature is something that can only be added by a MOD (an update) being made to the PHPBB software which Conquer Club uses for its forums. Hence for this MOD to be provided interested users should post in the PHPBB forums; using the link provided in the very first post.

Cicero

[yeti_c]

Code: Select all

UPDATE phpbb_modules SET module_auth = 'acl_m_warn' WHERE module_basename = 'notes';
UPDATE phpbb_modules SET module_auth = 'acl_m_warn' WHERE module_basename = 'logs';

FWIW - you could've written that...

Code: Select all

UPDATE phpbb_modules SET module_auth = 'acl_m_warn' WHERE module_basename = 'notes' or module_basename = 'logs'

Also - Semicolons aren't required syntax for SQL.

http://drsql.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!1 ... !568.entry

C.

[cpurcell]

Are you guys saying that you got it ?
---C

[blakebowling]

Code: Select all

UPDATE phpbb_modules SET module_auth = 'acl_m_warn' WHERE module_basename = 'notes';
UPDATE phpbb_modules SET module_auth = 'acl_m_warn' WHERE module_basename = 'logs';

FWIW - you could've written that...

Code: Select all

UPDATE phpbb_modules SET module_auth = 'acl_m_warn' WHERE module_basename = 'notes' or module_basename = 'logs'

Also - Semicolons aren't required syntax for SQL.

http://drsql.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!1 ... !568.entry

C.

In MYSQL using them both on one line and not having a semicolon is fine, but in some older versions of oracle and firebird (which phpBB3 can be ran on) require it. I just followed the MOD'er rule of thumb to make sure it would work with all databases (even though 99% of people use MYSQL)


and cpurcell, yes, I'm pretty sure we do have it

[cpurcell]

and cpurcell, yes, I'm pretty sure we do have it

Woohoo ! I hope your right !
---C

[blakebowling]

As the board is now phpBB 3.0.3, moderators can only see logs for forums that they moderate. I guess all that's left to do is grant privelages to the leaders.

[Optimus Prime]

As the board is now phpBB 3.0.3, moderators can only see logs for forums that they moderate. I guess all that's left to do is grant privelages to the leaders.

Unless Lack and Twill don't feel that the clan leaders can use the power responsibly. Which, to be honest, I can think of only 3 or 4 clan leaders who would be guaranteed to use the power properly. They have to decide if they really want the potential mess it could create on their hands.

[blakebowling]

As the board is now phpBB 3.0.3, moderators can only see logs for forums that they moderate. I guess all that's left to do is grant privelages to the leaders.

Unless Lack and Twill don't feel that the clan leaders can use the power responsibly. Which, to be honest, I can think of only 3 or 4 clan leaders who would be guaranteed to use the power properly. They have to decide if they really want the potential mess it could create on their hands.

Potential mess? Just don't give them the power to move threads or Change Posters (which only admins can do now). And no announcement posting power.

[Kotaro]

Unless Lack and Twill don't feel that the clan leaders can use the power responsibly. Which, to be honest, I can think of only 3 or 4 clan leaders who would be guaranteed to use the power properly. They have to decide if they really want the potential mess it could create on their hands.

The only thing they would have power over is there own private forums, which, as leaders, should be their rights to do so. And why would leaders use their powers badly? That'd just lose them members.

[jpcloet]

As the board is now phpBB 3.0.3, moderators can only see logs for forums that they moderate. I guess all that's left to do is grant privelages to the leaders.

Unless Lack and Twill don't feel that the clan leaders can use the power responsibly. Which, to be honest, I can think of only 3 or 4 clan leaders who would be guaranteed to use the power properly. They have to decide if they really want the potential mess it could create on their hands.

Hopefully that includes me.....

[Optimus Prime]

Unless Lack and Twill don't feel that the clan leaders can use the power responsibly. Which, to be honest, I can think of only 3 or 4 clan leaders who would be guaranteed to use the power properly. They have to decide if they really want the potential mess it could create on their hands.

The only thing they would have power over is there own private forums, which, as leaders, should be their rights to do so. And why would leaders use their powers badly? That'd just lose them members.

You would be surprised, Kotaro, you would be incredibly surprised at what stupid things can happen when people are given new buttons to push at their own fancy.

[Optimus Prime]

As the board is now phpBB 3.0.3, moderators can only see logs for forums that they moderate. I guess all that's left to do is grant privelages to the leaders.

Unless Lack and Twill don't feel that the clan leaders can use the power responsibly. Which, to be honest, I can think of only 3 or 4 clan leaders who would be guaranteed to use the power properly. They have to decide if they really want the potential mess it could create on their hands.

Potential mess? Just don't give them the power to move threads or Change Posters (which only admins can do now). And no announcement posting power.

What about editing posts even if it's just to be funny? Merging threads, deleting threads, splitting threads. It can all be abused, and WILL be at some point. I promise it.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have the ability to do a little spring cleaning in the G1 forum, but I don't expect it to happen anytime soon.

[blakebowling]

As the board is now phpBB 3.0.3, moderators can only see logs for forums that they moderate. I guess all that's left to do is grant privelages to the leaders.

Unless Lack and Twill don't feel that the clan leaders can use the power responsibly. Which, to be honest, I can think of only 3 or 4 clan leaders who would be guaranteed to use the power properly. They have to decide if they really want the potential mess it could create on their hands.

Potential mess? Just don't give them the power to move threads or Change Posters (which only admins can do now). And no announcement posting power.

What about editing posts even if it's just to be funny? Merging threads, deleting threads, splitting threads. It can all be abused, and WILL be at some point. I promise it.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have the ability to do a little spring cleaning in the G1 forum, but I don't expect it to happen anytime soon.

Right, they could totally f*ck up their own forum, but, its their forum. I say, let them do with it what they wish.

[nagerous]

Blake has a point, if people want to abuse and mess around with their own usergroups, they'll just lose out in the long run.

[AndyDufresne]

I've notified Lack about the topic. I know he wants to increase clan membership and begin working on more clan specific things, so perhaps this is a good first step in that direction. He'll most likely review it over the next couple of days. We'll see...


--Andy

[GrimReaper.]

haza

[blakebowling]

I've notified Lack about the topic. I know he wants to increase clan membership and begin working on more clan specific things, so perhaps this is a good first step in that direction. He'll most likely review it over the next couple of days. We'll see...


--Andy

I had a discussion with lack as well, after fixing the problem of Leaders being able to view IP's he said this would probably be waiting until January, when Twill returns from vacation.

[blakebowling]

I've notified Lack about the topic. I know he wants to increase clan membership and begin working on more clan specific things, so perhaps this is a good first step in that direction. He'll most likely review it over the next couple of days. We'll see...


--Andy

I had a discussion with lack as well, after fixing the problem of Leaders being able to view IP's he said this would probably be waiting until January, when Twill returns from vacation.

I'm going to bump this as it's been a while and I really want this done.

[sailorseal]

Yes, Yes Yes, Yes!!!!
I have wanted this ever since I became a clan leader

[ManBungalow]

Keep this bumped and stick a poll on it

[lanyards]

Yeah, this is completely necessary.
But I don't think a poll is, who would not want this?
I guess I'll have one just to show how many people want it then.