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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby greenoaks on Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:05 am

rdsrds2120 wrote:The Academy might be able to find use for this. Keeping charts of progress for students, perhaps.

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Clans and Usergroups could use it much the same way to track & display their member's activities.
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby rdsrds2120 on Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:03 am

To expand on this, I think that having 2 tags would be sufficient. We already have the list function, which can use two (one for bullets, one for [list]), and this probably is one of those things that could be used similarly. Just a thought, as it would be incredibly useful!

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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby ender516 on Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:45 am

I think you will need three tags. With the list, you have the tag around the whole list and the tags that mark the separations. In a sense, it marks positions in one dimension. WIth a table, you need to mark positions in two dimensions: row markers and column markers.
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby jpcloet on Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:01 pm

If you are going for a display all you really need is a single bbcode and a javascript to go with it. I'm not sure what you think people are going to do with the [th] anyways.
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby ender516 on Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:11 pm

I think you have to have something to separate rows from one another and cells within a row, so if you use only one code, you need some special syntax inside the code. Why make it special? Just use the [].

I don't know what you mean by [th].
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby blakebowling on Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:23 pm

My original idea was to have BBCodes that went along with the HTML <table>, <tr>, <td>, and <th> tags. It was requested that I come up with a solution that uses only one BBCode. The only solution that fit this would be a CSV sort of system. So you would have a table tag [table], each set of cells would be Comma-Separated, and each set of rows would be semi-colon separated.

So input would look something like:
[table]1,2,3;A,B,C;[/table]
And output would look something like:
1 | 2 | 3
A | B | C

To summarize, my original solution would provide a wider array of options, and more customization, at the cost of ease-of-use. The second solution would provide an easier option to use, at the cost of options and customization.

I'm for the first solution, however I'm willing to pursue whatever the community is most supportive of.

If you want this done, please keep this suggestion afloat guys.
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby ender516 on Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:43 am

Using commas and semicolons to delimit the cells and rows would mean that those characters would need special treatment to appear in a cell. I would much prefer the first solution as well, as it seems to be the standard as described at BBCode.org. I didn't know about the [th] codes until just now, and they would be nice, but are hardly necessary, if, for example, the bold BBCode still works inside the [td] tag.
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby greenoaks on Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:23 am

i am in favour of the 1st option. i can handle having to use 3 codes.

how difficult would it be to implement, with or without the buttons as i use strikethrough and color and there is no button for them
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby iamkoolerthanu on Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:47 am

There are buttons for color

I really want this implemented lol
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby blakebowling on Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:32 am

The first BBCode option would take literally a few minutes to implement (considering I've already written the codes, and all that needs to be done is Andy installing them on the website)

The second option would require a wholly new mod in phpBB (eg a bunch of code changes), so it would take much longer to implement.
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby ender516 on Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:41 am

blakebowling wrote:The first BBCode option would take literally a few minutes to implement (considering I've already written the codes, and all that needs to be done is Andy installing them on the website)

The second option would require a wholly new mod in phpBB (eg a bunch of code changes), so it would take much longer to implement.

Sounds like a no-brainer choice to me.
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby greenoaks on Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:16 pm

blakebowling wrote:The first BBCode option would take literally a few minutes to implement (considering I've already written the codes, and all that needs to be done is Andy installing them on the website.

does this include shortcut buttons for ease of use
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby blakebowling on Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:09 pm

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blakebowling wrote:The first BBCode option would take literally a few minutes to implement (considering I've already written the codes, and all that needs to be done is Andy installing them on the website.

does this include shortcut buttons for ease of use

BBCodes are installed directly in the ACP, when you add a new BBCode, you have the option (it's a checkbox) to add the BBCode to the posting page. If you check that box, the button will appear on the posting page.
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby greenoaks on Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:44 pm

that is a lot easier than i imagined.

please submit option 1 for implementation.
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby blakebowling on Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:13 pm

greenoaks wrote:that is a lot easier than i imagined.

please submit option 1 for implementation.

It was submitted during a MOD's project that I was doing a while ago. However the admins thought it would be too complicated for the average user.

After we get some more people to comment on the options, and if a large majority say they prefer option 1, I'll get Andy and lack to review this thread.
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby ender516 on Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:16 pm

I would say that the average user never uses any of the BBCodes. Heck, most don't even use standard English. Anyone who finds it too complex can ask for help or ignore the feature, like they do with lists and bigimgs and gamelinks and playerlinks and url links and quotes and ...
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby MrGlassB on Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:33 pm

This is a good idea, and I'm really surprised phpBB doesn't already have it integrated. Other forum software packages have had it for years. :-s

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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby iamkoolerthanu on Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:38 am

ender516 wrote:I would say that the average user never uses any of the BBCodes. Heck, most don't even use standard English. Anyone who finds it too complex can ask for help or ignore the feature, like they do with lists and bigimgs and gamelinks and playerlinks and url links and quotes and ...

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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby rdsrds2120 on Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:50 am

We could also put in a User Guide in Questions & Answers, like we have for many other Forum related difficulties.

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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby Kinnison on Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:17 am

Indeed. I like the idea of Option 1. For tournaments that aren't too involved (okay, some of mine ARE too involved), it would be a great help.
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby blakebowling on Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:59 am

I'm going to sticky this. If we keep getting more support (TO's let your fellow TO's know), I'll move it to submitted.
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby ender516 on Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:08 pm

Would it be within the forum guidelines to start a topic in the Foundry Discussions forum to draw attention to this? I'm pretty sure a lot of mapmakers would appreciate the ability to post tabular data without going through hoops.
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby blakebowling on Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:42 pm

ender516 wrote:Would it be within the forum guidelines to start a topic in the Foundry Discussions forum to draw attention to this? I'm pretty sure a lot of mapmakers would appreciate the ability to post tabular data without going through hoops.

I believe that would be fine, but to make sure I'd ask MrBenn.
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby greenoaks on Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:05 pm

ender516 wrote:Would it be within the forum guidelines to start a topic in the Foundry Discussions forum to draw attention to this? I'm pretty sure a lot of mapmakers would appreciate the ability to post tabular data without going through hoops.

i started one yesterday in the TO's usergroup forum to encourage them to come here.

additional support could also come from Clan Leaders for tracking data in challenges and the SOC trainers. is there anyone here able to post there to let them know?
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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

Postby drunkmonkey on Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:06 pm

I would love to see this implemented. It would be a great help for my tournament scoring.
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