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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby QoH on Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:13 pm

I'm pretty much logged on for hours, even on my phone which shows me as online for most of the day.
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Re: Allow me to stay logged in

Postby tarcellius on Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:36 pm

I wish I had known about this thread when it was active. Of course, I almost never interact on the forums, so that's no surprise. I am a premium member, though, and I do like the games. Earlier today I posted a suggestion for a much longer timeout because I was also annoyed by having to login so often. I was directed to this thread.

Anyway, I wholeheartedly support rryan's suggestion, as well as all his arguments and counter-arguments. Even the minor amount of frustration he showed through some remarkable self-restraint. I won't bother repeating everything he argued for, or trying to add any more clarification of the terms involved. Please consider my vote to be exactly alongside his. I believe many more people would appreciate the feature, too.

Thanks for reading. I hope the technical people do have a chance to consider this.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby tarcellius on Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:43 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:A similar topic was actually brought up before: viewtopic.php?f=471&t=141496


Thanks Metsfanmax! That thread does discuss this same issue. I added a post there.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby blakebowling on Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:38 pm

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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby Robespierre__ on Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:37 am

If this is something that is technically feasible given the site's architecture, it would be nice. I think busy people get annoyed when they have small time wastes throughout their day. If there is something that can be done for them, it would be a nice gesture.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby GeneralJestix on Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:14 pm

I also agree that this should be implemented. Hell I would be happy for 1-2 hours of inactive time to force me to log back in rather than 15 minutes.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby chapcrap on Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:00 pm

I'm pretty sure that the inactive time is set for an hour now. I wouldn't mind a longer time, but this would be pretty low on list of priorities. However, I think that it should be pretty easy to implement.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby greenoaks on Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:51 pm

chapcrap wrote:I'm pretty sure that the inactive time is set for an hour now. I wouldn't mind a longer time, but this would be pretty low on list of priorities. However, I think that it should be pretty easy to implement.

it is an hour now.

will the site still drop your speed game if you have been inactive for 15 minutes ?
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby blakebowling on Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:00 pm

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chapcrap wrote:I'm pretty sure that the inactive time is set for an hour now. I wouldn't mind a longer time, but this would be pretty low on list of priorities. However, I think that it should be pretty easy to implement.

it is an hour now.

will the site still drop your speed game if you have been inactive for 15 minutes ?

Yes. How long before you get logged out is not the same as dropping speed games. The time stored is the last time you loaded a page, and calculations are made from there.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby tarcellius on Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:30 am

Great! Then no architecture changes are needed and it really is just a matter of changing a number somewhere. I vote for at least 24 hours, if not more.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby chapcrap on Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:25 am

tarcellius wrote:Great! Then no architecture changes are needed and it really is just a matter of changing a number somewhere. I vote for at least 24 hours, if not more.

If it's changed, I think 24 hours is plenty. I just don't want to hear people complain about forgetting to log off and someone getting on their account and ruining their turns.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby tarcellius on Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:20 pm

Has there been any progress on this effort?
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby nryan115 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:19 pm

chapcrap wrote:
tarcellius wrote:Great! Then no architecture changes are needed and it really is just a matter of changing a number somewhere. I vote for at least 24 hours, if not more.

If it's changed, I think 24 hours is plenty. I just don't want to hear people complain about forgetting to log off and someone getting on their account and ruining their turns.


I have literally left this site over this 99% common feature on every other website ever not being present here. I have come back several years alter to see if it has been fixed and I can see that it has not. Is there truly any particular reason it has not? Your concern about being forgetting to log out is not a concern at all since the "keep me logged in" check box is an opt-in during login. When used on a public computer one simply would do nothing (not click the opt in box).

Since creating this topic I have logged into the previously mentioned forum 1 time. That is one single login over the last 3 years. I visit the site every day but my "active" time is only 4 days (less than 96 hours) since I am put offline after a couple of minutes of inactivity. The one time I had to re login was when I used my work computer and chose not to have the site keep my logged in.

Once again, I want to stress my concern that almost every other site has this same option, yahoo, google, comcast, facebook, as well as most private sites. Except this site.

I once again, respectfully, ask you to please consider adding a "keep me logged in" check box like every other site has which will keep users from having to log in constantly, BUT STILL automatically marks them as inactive after the traditional 15 minutes or whatever the current setting is now. This would not affect speed games at all, turns, or anything except prevent users from typing in their account information over and over and over again.

And yes, I still refuse to use any browser based password manager for this - even though it will fill in the fields it is A) not the same whatsoever, and B) now how I choose to use my computer or be lax with my security.

Therefore, can this please be reconsidered? I am literally only asking for a feature that will make the site at least as modern as 2006.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby nryan115 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:24 pm

P.S. for whatever reason I can also see that some moderator has changed the title of this thread to "Login timeout can be much much longer" which is literally not what I am or ever was asking for at all. Just to be clear.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby agentcom on Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:43 pm

blakebowling wrote:Topics Merged.


This is what changed the title
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby nryan115 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:22 pm

agentcom wrote:
blakebowling wrote:Topics Merged.


This is what changed the title


OK well, that explains how it happened but my topic was not about lengthening the timeout period. So basically, it would seem that my request was overwritten by this request which, in my opinion, is less critical and would have a less likely chance of taking place because of that.

Are the differences not perfectly clear?
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby chapcrap on Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:06 pm

nryan115 wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
tarcellius wrote:Great! Then no architecture changes are needed and it really is just a matter of changing a number somewhere. I vote for at least 24 hours, if not more.

If it's changed, I think 24 hours is plenty. I just don't want to hear people complain about forgetting to log off and someone getting on their account and ruining their turns.


I have literally left this site over this 99% common feature on every other website ever not being present here. I have come back several years alter to see if it has been fixed and I can see that it has not. Is there truly any particular reason it has not? Your concern about being forgetting to log out is not a concern at all since the "keep me logged in" check box is an opt-in during login. When used on a public computer one simply would do nothing (not click the opt in box).

Since creating this topic I have logged into the previously mentioned forum 1 time. That is one single login over the last 3 years. I visit the site every day but my "active" time is only 4 days (less than 96 hours) since I am put offline after a couple of minutes of inactivity. The one time I had to re login was when I used my work computer and chose not to have the site keep my logged in.

Once again, I want to stress my concern that almost every other site has this same option, yahoo, google, comcast, facebook, as well as most private sites. Except this site.

I once again, respectfully, ask you to please consider adding a "keep me logged in" check box like every other site has which will keep users from having to log in constantly, BUT STILL automatically marks them as inactive after the traditional 15 minutes or whatever the current setting is now. This would not affect speed games at all, turns, or anything except prevent users from typing in their account information over and over and over again.

And yes, I still refuse to use any browser based password manager for this - even though it will fill in the fields it is A) not the same whatsoever, and B) now how I choose to use my computer or be lax with my security.

Therefore, can this please be reconsidered? I am literally only asking for a feature that will make the site at least as modern as 2006.

Notice how the topics were merged? I wasn't responding to your topic, but to the other topic of keeping the login time longer.

If there is a checkbox that allows the password to be saved, then that is different, IMO.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby nryan115 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:17 pm

chapcrap wrote:
nryan115 wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
tarcellius wrote:Great! Then no architecture changes are needed and it really is just a matter of changing a number somewhere. I vote for at least 24 hours, if not more.

If it's changed, I think 24 hours is plenty. I just don't want to hear people complain about forgetting to log off and someone getting on their account and ruining their turns.


I have literally left this site over this 99% common feature on every other website ever not being present here. I have come back several years alter to see if it has been fixed and I can see that it has not. Is there truly any particular reason it has not? Your concern about being forgetting to log out is not a concern at all since the "keep me logged in" check box is an opt-in during login. When used on a public computer one simply would do nothing (not click the opt in box).

Since creating this topic I have logged into the previously mentioned forum 1 time. That is one single login over the last 3 years. I visit the site every day but my "active" time is only 4 days (less than 96 hours) since I am put offline after a couple of minutes of inactivity. The one time I had to re login was when I used my work computer and chose not to have the site keep my logged in.

Once again, I want to stress my concern that almost every other site has this same option, yahoo, google, comcast, facebook, as well as most private sites. Except this site.

I once again, respectfully, ask you to please consider adding a "keep me logged in" check box like every other site has which will keep users from having to log in constantly, BUT STILL automatically marks them as inactive after the traditional 15 minutes or whatever the current setting is now. This would not affect speed games at all, turns, or anything except prevent users from typing in their account information over and over and over again.

And yes, I still refuse to use any browser based password manager for this - even though it will fill in the fields it is A) not the same whatsoever, and B) now how I choose to use my computer or be lax with my security.

Therefore, can this please be reconsidered? I am literally only asking for a feature that will make the site at least as modern as 2006.

Notice how the topics were merged? I wasn't responding to your topic, but to the other topic of keeping the login time longer.

If there is a checkbox that allows the password to be saved, then that is different, IMO.


First, I appreciate that you can see that my request is different.
Second, I am not asking for a check box to remember my password, I am asking for a checkbox to keep me logged into the site so that I do not have to click "log in" when I open, or refresh the page. It not only skips me having to type but also having to click the login button as well.

I am not sure if some of my posts were deleted or what when this was merged but I have explained this concept what feels like 10 times or more which I simply do not understand the need for as the feature is very common on other major websites. Do you literally type in your credentials and click log in every time you sign into facebook or youtube? No. Do your friend see you online on facebook 24 hours a day? No because you are inactive when idle or the page closed but you are not logged off.

When you sign into most of google's other pages such as google analytics it used to have a check box that said "keep me signed in for two weeks". I don't know if I am being elaborately trolled or what but it feels like being in a room full of old people asking if you need stamps to send "the emails".
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby nryan115 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:29 pm

P.S. Actually I can see that another thread was merged with mine and that my initial posts and seemingly all of my old posts are still here, although for some reason the name was changed to something that does not describe my request at all and I fear most people would not even click this topic due to the name which describes a different feature than my actual request.

I can also still see on the first page the head global administrator saying that he doesn't get timed out after 15 minutes (at the time of this thread creation that was the timeout limit) so I fear nothing will come of this (again) ~ even though he SHOULD have gotten timed out since the site was literally setup to do so. I just - I just don't know what to do with myself anymore. I am in one game which just started and has been active for 1 day and I have already logged in too many times. Whereas, I have opened facebook and youtube a bunch of times and haven't logged in to either for over a month.

How can such an extraordinarily common and useful request barely be acknowledged like this?

The other main point is that so many people do not come to this forum when they are upset and they just leave instead. I had two other friends who used to play here with me who used to tell me outside of game how annoying this issue was before I even made the topic and how they dreaded checking on the status of their games because of it. They are gone now, just as I had left because of this specific issue. I think it could make a drastic change to player retention.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby agentcom on Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:56 pm

The topics shouldn't have been merged, in my opinion. The topics can be "unmerged," but it takes a couple minutes, which I don't have right now. I'll try to get back to this.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby nryan115 on Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:55 pm

Thanks? So how do you get someone to reconsider this suggestion anyhow?
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby nryan115 on Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:08 pm

Today alone I typed my info and logged in like 10 times. I have been playing a few games since I came back to this thread and I am already mind blowingly agitated and annoyed by this. I can see that nothing will come of this thread, I guess I was just being hopeful. I will be leaving again after my current games are up and will let my friends know that nothing has changed or will change. Goodluck with the site.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby MegaProphet on Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:26 pm

I support the suggestion for a longer login timeout, but I'd prefer a 'remember me' type box. Continually having to log in is a pain.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby darth emperor on Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:33 am

nryan115 wrote:Today alone I typed my info and logged in like 10 times. I have been playing a few games since I came back to this thread and I am already mind blowingly agitated and annoyed by this. I can see that nothing will come of this thread, I guess I was just being hopeful. I will be leaving again after my current games are up and will let my friends know that nothing has changed or will change. Goodluck with the site.

I really can't understand, how did you log 10 times, without closing the page, or sing out. If you leave the page alone, its atleast 1 hour, before it's disconected.
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Re: Login timeout can be much much longer

Postby MoB Deadly on Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:33 am

just keep at least one tab open
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