Special Clan member contribution achievement award.

[jefjef]

Stickied for now. I want people to have some more time to comment on the proposed criteria before submission. I won't make you all wait too long, I promise.

Thank you Mets!

[chapcrap]

guys im only answer on question, im all ready have 4 sugestions who sleep in submited sugestions,and i dont want to waste time on new sugestion.

10 pages in 3 days for a sugg its probably a record so it wouldnt be surprising if this got fast tracked a bit.

it a great suggestion and i see no problems with it not being atleast being submitted

Fast tracked!!

[Anthrax821]

great idea.

make it a new medal at least

[eddie2]

well i was drawn into the jefjef peanutsdad(head of cla) arguement v metsfan to much. but was chemefrank not sayiing they were organising a medel for mvp of winning clan. would this not be better 1 win = 1 random medal instead of 4 wins = 1 medal

[chapcrap]

well i was drawn into the jefjef peanutsdad(head of cla) arguement v metsfan to much. but was chemefrank not sayiing they were organising a medel for mvp of winning clan. would this not be better 1 win = 1 random medal instead of 4 wins = 1 medal

The medal/award that jefjef is proposing isn't associated directly to wins. It's for contribution to the betterment of the clan. Wins are a small part, but my feeling is that more weight will be given to other things.

[greenoaks]

well i was drawn into the jefjef peanutsdad(head of cla) arguement v metsfan to much. but was chemefrank not sayiing they were organising a medel for mvp of winning clan. would this not be better 1 win = 1 random medal instead of 4 wins = 1 medal

The medal/award that jefjef is proposing isn't associated directly to wins. It's for contribution to the betterment of the clan. Wins are a small part, but my feeling is that more weight will be given to other things.

ALL weight should be given to other things

[jefjef]

great idea.

make it a new medal at least

It would be cool to have a special medal but unfortunately getting new medals are a bit difficult and a slow process. This could be implemented immediately using the current achievement medal. The details would show the reason for the award so people could see it wasn't just for a war win.

[eddie2]

well i was drawn into the jefjef peanutsdad(head of cla) arguement v metsfan to much. but was chemefrank not sayiing they were organising a medel for mvp of winning clan. would this not be better 1 win = 1 random medal instead of 4 wins = 1 medal

The medal/award that jefjef is proposing isn't associated directly to wins. It's for contribution to the betterment of the clan. Wins are a small part, but my feeling is that more weight will be given to other things.

no you are missing it chemefreak has said they are organising a mvp (most valuble player) award for clans winning a war. so for a mvp award the clan mods would have to contact the war organiser of the winning clan to see who he feels was there mvp. so work it out in your head.

in 1 year if you win 4 wars you get 4 mvp medals to hand out to clan.(which is part of jefs terms that a clan must win a war) not 1 at the end of each year. maybe the clan mods can use the medal style idea, but if this sug goes through it will mean that each clan could possibly get less medals to award than what clan mods are already discussing.

[chapcrap]

well i was drawn into the jefjef peanutsdad(head of cla) arguement v metsfan to much. but was chemefrank not sayiing they were organising a medel for mvp of winning clan. would this not be better 1 win = 1 random medal instead of 4 wins = 1 medal

The medal/award that jefjef is proposing isn't associated directly to wins. It's for contribution to the betterment of the clan. Wins are a small part, but my feeling is that more weight will be given to other things.

no you are missing it chemefreak has said they are organising a mvp (most valuble player) award for clans winning a war. so for a mvp award the clan mods would have to contact the war organiser of the winning clan to see who he feels was there mvp. so work it out in your head.

in 1 year if you win 4 wars you get 4 mvp medals to hand out to clan.(which is part of jefs terms that a clan must win a war) not 1 at the end of each year. maybe the clan mods can use the medal style idea, but if this sug goes through it will mean that each clan could possibly get less medals to award than what clan mods are already discussing.

I already wrapped my head around it. Can you wrap your head around the fact that both of their ideas can happen? They are awarded for 2 different things.

[spiesr]

Since this suggestion currently learns towards the 1 medal per clan per year idea, there are some questions about how that would work exactly. Are clans supposed to submit for this award:
A. Once per calendar year at any point during that year.
B. Exactly 1 year (~365 days) after that clan's medal was awarded previously.
C. Are all clans submit their decision on a specific date?

Should clans be allowed to award the medal to the same person year after year?

Should there be any limitations on what criteria a clan can use to award this medal? (IE Is simply being the best at wars in the clan a valid reason?) Related, are the Clan Directors allowed to reject an award if they feel the reason is not good enough/does not meet whatever criteria may be decided upon? If clan directors are allowed to veto an application what level of strictness should they apply? This can range from only vetoing obvious joke applications to doing serious investigations to determine if that individual's contribution is truly "good enough" for the medal. Or do you want there to be no Director oversight at all, apart from checking eligibility?

[chapcrap]

Since this suggestion currently learns towards the 1 medal per clan per year idea, there are some questions about how that would work exactly. Are clans supposed to submit for this award:
A. Once per calendar year at any point during that year.
B. Exactly 1 year (~356 days) after that clan's medal was awarded previously.
C. Are all clans submit their decision on a specific date?

Should clans be allowed to award the medal to the same person year after year?

Should there be any limitations on what criteria a clan can use to award this medal? (IE Is simply being the best at wars in the clan a valid reason?) Related, are the Clan Directors allowed to reject an award if they feel the reason is not good enough/does not meet whatever criteria may be decided upon? If clan directors are allowed to veto an application what level of strictness should they apply? This can range from only vetoing obvious joke applications to doing serious investigations to determine if that individual's contribution is truly "good enough" for the medal. Or do you want there to be no Director oversight at all, apart from checking eligibility?

First, a year is 365.

I would say on the anniversary of the clans. Of course, it would not be the responsibility of the CDs to send out reminders to make sure that that clans get their submissions in. Clans are responsible for that themselves. I would say that the same person could win multiple times. It just depends on how much he/she has helped the clan within that year. I would think that most clans might try to spread the love around. And I do think that the CDs should have the right to reject a submission if it is outlandish, but with only 1 per year per clan, I think that whoever the clan wants to give it to would be deserving.

The help could come in the form of Clan War wins, but I think that is a small part of helping out a clan. There are other things inside the clans that aren't seen from the outside, that help out more than just a good winning percentage in the wars.

[greenoaks]

this award should have nothing to do with wins.

[jgordon1111]

I believe jefjef's proposal wasn't based on wins it was based on clan member contribution,to be given to the member who contributed the most to his/her clan for various other types of in clan situations.

[jefjef]

Since this suggestion currently learns towards the 1 medal per clan per year idea, there are some questions about how that would work exactly. Are clans supposed to submit for this award:
A. Once per calendar year at any point during that year.
B. Exactly 1 year (~365 days) after that clan's medal was awarded previously.
C. Are all clans submit their decision on a specific date?

Should clans be allowed to award the medal to the same person year after year?

Should there be any limitations on what criteria a clan can use to award this medal? (IE Is simply being the best at wars in the clan a valid reason?) Related, are the Clan Directors allowed to reject an award if they feel the reason is not good enough/does not meet whatever criteria may be decided upon? If clan directors are allowed to veto an application what level of strictness should they apply? This can range from only vetoing obvious joke applications to doing serious investigations to determine if that individual's contribution is truly "good enough" for the medal. Or do you want there to be no Director oversight at all, apart from checking eligibility?

If cc approves this many of your questions would be decided by them.

I would think for ease January would be the calendar year for issuance of this award. That way the CD's won't need to track 40 some clans birthdays. No need for them to have more to do. It should be the clan leaders responsibility to contact the CD's and request the award to be issued within a certain time frame like the Month of January.

As for criteria: Leave it to the clan leaders discretion whatever reason they feel someone deserves the award. I know who I would issue one to today. And no it has nothing to do with war wins/game play. But if some other clan leader wants to award this to someone who has played the most war games or is undefeated that would be up to them. With that said we leaders will need to be careful/judicial in awarding this cuz if someone gets it that isn't the most deserving then you run the risk if losing the extra behind the scene contributions of the offended member.

Some clans may even want to utilize a members vote to decide. I can not believe that there would be any "joke" nominations. There is criteria to be met - Min 1 year in clan - Min 1 year active clan - Min 4 medal wars and participation in those wars.

[eddie2]

well would it not be better pushing for the special award chemefreak was talking about earlier. you are talking about 1 award per year for your most valid player. chemefreak and clan mods are at present discussing 1 award per winning clan for most valid player so in real theory what this sug is doing is changing what clan mods are already discussing . AKA as a clan at present have a few valuble players who do extra work for the clan.

aka members are as follows.
far2ezee= has created a off site database for clan info and keeps it up to date.
razorvich+ dorsettrob+far2ezee= helped loads during my recient 1 month forum ban
wille e cyote= runs all our training games.
enormantitz wilkinc aligator_al studster9143 proberly 4 of the clans strongest players who are always checking games and making sure the clan comunicate in game.

now we look at the 2 things being discussed.
jefjefs sug
to award all these players a medal it would take 8 years.
clan mods ideas.
this would take 8 war wins which is about correct.

think of it if you are playing loads of wars but never winning you cant really say you have a player worthy of a special award for contribution. because if you not winning there not doing it correct. I am still for this sug but think it would be better putting it together with what clan mods are all ready discussing.