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Include default neutral values in map images

Postby agentcom on Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:56 pm

Include the default neutral values on the map images in the following places:
  • The Map's page in the foundry
  • The map image accessible through Game lists, Game Finder and Start Game screens


How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • More than once, I looked through the map foundry to find out how many neutrals I'd be facing if I made an attack in a foggy game. Unless you parse through the XML, this information most of the time is not there. Instead, I have to hope that there is a sunny game that hasn't progressed too far that I can find through Game Finder.
  • If you're thinking that this isn't really a big deal, go play an AoR game and see how many different neutral values there are for territories out there beyond the few you can see in a foggy game.
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby darth emperor on Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:33 pm

also it helps, to know if the region adjacent to you has been assaulted
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby MichelSableheart on Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:13 pm

Good suggestion. Note that having this information also would help new players on some maps, who are trying to read the log in a fog game to find out what's happening.
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby chapcrap on Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:35 pm

I support.
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby DiM on Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:43 pm

i love this.
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby drunkmonkey on Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:14 am

Adding my support
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby pmchugh on Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:17 pm

Totally agree, been thinking this for a while was just too lazy to make the topic.
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby EagleofGreenErth on Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:01 pm

pmchugh wrote:Totally agree, been thinking this for a while was just too lazy to make the topic.


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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby agentcom on Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:29 am

darth emperor wrote:also it helps, to know if the region adjacent to you has been assaulted


Didn't get what you were saying here at first, but great point.
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby agentcom on Mon May 14, 2012 9:36 pm

Thanks for all the support guys! As it has been a month since the last comment, I figured I'd bump this.
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby agentcom on Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:27 pm

Another month goes by, so I thought I'd bring this back to the top. I hate having to go look through Game Finder results to find a sunny game in which the territory I want to see hasn't been attacked by anyone.
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby JBlombier on Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:49 am

I support this suggestion as well. Perhaps you could talk to the foundry people as well, because that's where a part of this suggestion is gonna take place anyway. Not sure if it would help, but you can always try.
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby sirgermaine on Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:05 am

This suggestion rocks.
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby rdsrds2120 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:58 pm

I also support this suggestion. It would just be another two images to load (one large, one small) for the gallery, and would let people get a jump on trying to learn maps that are best played foggy.

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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby BluU on Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:29 pm

you have my vote
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby IcePack on Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:54 pm

Go pester nolefan he's got blue in his name now ;)
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby patrickaa317 on Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:51 pm

What about maps like Arms Race where there are a fair amount of neutrals at the start but they aren't always the same? Or is this only for territories that are ALWAYS neutral.
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby skychaser on Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:25 am

All in for it. It could be included in the map's image.
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby darth emperor on Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:34 am

patrickaa317 wrote:What about maps like Arms Race where there are a fair amount of neutrals at the start but they aren't always the same? Or is this only for territories that are ALWAYS neutral.

In any map, any region can be neutral, therefore it should be put for all the regions, no matter if they start neutral or not
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby Chuuuuck on Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:30 pm

This is a no brainer. I have often clicked on maps and looked at them and thought "what idiot decided to leave all of those spots blank?"
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby agentcom on Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:14 pm

rdsrds2120 wrote:I also support this suggestion. It would just be another two images to load (one large, one small) for the gallery, and would let people get a jump on trying to learn maps that are best played foggy.

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Yeah, I don't think it really requires that much work. Out of the two places that I suggested the information be (the foundry AND the clickable map image from various screens on this site), I actually would prefer it be in the clickable map images, if it's only going to be in one place.

The advantage to this is that it really shouldn't require any additional work on the mapmaker's part. It could be coded from the XML. I can't imagine that this would be a very hard thing to do, given that the site retrieves this information in every game played.
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby rdsrds2120 on Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:25 am

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rdsrds2120 wrote:I also support this suggestion. It would just be another two images to load (one large, one small) for the gallery, and would let people get a jump on trying to learn maps that are best played foggy.

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Yeah, I don't think it really requires that much work. Out of the two places that I suggested the information be (the foundry AND the clickable map image from various screens on this site), I actually would prefer it be in the clickable map images, if it's only going to be in one place.

The advantage to this is that it really shouldn't require any additional work on the mapmaker's part. It could be coded from the XML. I can't imagine that this would be a very hard thing to do, given that the site retrieves this information in every game played.


Even better!! Save many more manhours of work that way. :)

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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby anonymus on Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:44 am

yes would be great, im so sick of going to foundry-pages and hoping im counting the correct versions neutrals.. or like described finding a sunny early stages game..
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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby Arama86n on Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:06 am

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Re: Include default neutral values in map images

Postby trinicardinal on Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:53 am

I definitely support this suggestion. That information will be helpful for anyone new to a map who wants to learn it.
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