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Re: Choose Army Color At Start ~Stickied/Last Call TFO~

Postby lethlethe on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:15 pm

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lethlethe wrote:I do not like this idea. A better idea would be that the colours are assign based on the start of the round. This would mean that player who is randomly picked to start, is always red. The following players always follow the same order of colours. In this way, it is always clear when a round starts and when a round eds (without the need to look at the game log).


Umm, what about Freestyle?


Ah. Well. First player to play gets to assign the colours? Or, as it is now? Or the host can choose and assign colours to the remaining open slots? I have no idea.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start ~Stickied/Last Call TFO~

Postby TheForgivenOne on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:24 pm

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TheForgivenOne wrote:
lethlethe wrote:I do not like this idea. A better idea would be that the colours are assign based on the start of the round. This would mean that player who is randomly picked to start, is always red. The following players always follow the same order of colours. In this way, it is always clear when a round starts and when a round eds (without the need to look at the game log).


Umm, what about Freestyle?


Ah. Well. First player to play gets to assign the colours? Or, as it is now? Or the host can choose and assign colours to the remaining open slots? I have no idea.


Well, I doubt what you are suggesting is going to change what is already been suggested. It's sitting in Submitted because enough people like what was already suggested. If you want, I would suggest opening a new Suggestion about it.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start ~Stickied/Last Call TFO~

Postby lethlethe on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:39 pm

I just think that if you change the colour system it should be based on more than personal preference. It should add something to the game (i.e. have some informational value). If I was 10 it might have cared if I played with my favorite colour, but that has kind of grown out (especially since my favorite colour for God know what reason was yellow). :)
We'll see how it pans out. I might post a suggestion later (now I'm just curious how my current suggestion post will fare).
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start ~Stickied/Last Call TFO~

Postby -=- Tanarri -=- on Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:13 am

MoB Deadly wrote:Is the "host" of the game still always red or top position though? Some people have unwritten rules, idk such as adjacent attacks. Its a common indicator where I can say okay this guy is host, im sure his rule is in effect, cant as easily figure it out if you are playing a lot of games with that person


The host would not necessarily be red, but red would be the top position all the time, which I think may qualify as "host" in quotes always being red as far as your question goes.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start ~Stickied/Last Call TFO~

Postby -=- Tanarri -=- on Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:17 am

lethlethe wrote:I just think that if you change the colour system it should be based on more than personal preference. It should add something to the game (i.e. have some informational value). If I was 10 it might have cared if I played with my favorite colour, but that has kind of grown out (especially since my favorite colour for God know what reason was yellow). :)
We'll see how it pans out. I might post a suggestion later (now I'm just curious how my current suggestion post will fare).


I'm not sure if you've ever been a premium player or not and if so, if you've ever had an insane number of games going at a time (40+ casual games), but I can say from personal experience that playing with the same colour in all games would really, really help when you're playing so many games. It can get very confusing when you're playing the same map with different colours.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby OnYourShore on Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:38 pm

Any progress on this yet? If I want to be able to choose blue as my color I can't start my own games. And I'm having a hard time finding games to join as blue with the settings I prefer. And I agree with a previous poster, it would be a nice perk for premium members.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby agentcom on Mon May 14, 2012 8:31 pm

Browsing submitted suggestions at random and came across this. I think the original suggestion was a decent and simple one. As I understand it, you would just allow some variation from the "first person to join is red, second is green, third ..." I would think this could be as simple as allowing a player to join the game in any position. Just like in team games where you can choose to join any team, you would open that up to all games. If there is a further problem about the host always being red, then a simple addition to the Create Game screen ("Join in position X" where X is a dropdown menu with the colors) would solve this.

Seems like the functionality is already there and there's 12 pages of discussion, much of which likely provides support for this. So I say, why not?

If what I've said has been addressed, let me know.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby Army of GOD on Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:27 pm

do we have pick your color yet?
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby Funkyterrance on Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:46 pm

What if two people want the same color (red and blue seem to be popular for some weird reason) and they want to play the same game? Seems like might cause more pissiness than happyness.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby Victor Sullivan on Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:14 pm

Red is popular because it is popular to start games, dearie.

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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby codierose on Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:57 am

2006 cool
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby Army of GOD on Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:01 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:What if two people want the same color (red and blue seem to be popular for some weird reason) and they want to play the same game? Seems like might cause more pissiness than happyness.


First come first serve. They don't HAVE to play in that game you know...
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby drunkmonkey on Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:12 pm

codierose wrote:2006 cool

Completely useless suggestion...it should sit here for another 6 years... :roll:
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby agentcom on Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:50 am

drunkmonkey wrote:
codierose wrote:2006 cool

Completely useless suggestion...it should sit here for another 6 years... :roll:


Lol, I tend to agree. I think the only valid reason that I've seen is that some folks are color blind and prefer to not be green/silver or some other combo. I know, I know color codes and everything is the response to that.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby 72o on Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:28 pm

Couldn't you theoretically have whatever color you want as your color all the time? If you like red, your armies could still display as red on your screen even if you're the second player. It could just switch colors with the first player and make him green, as you see it.

It sure would make the "WTF BLUE YOU IDIOT" chat confusing, but it could work.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby agentcom on Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:39 am

72o wrote:Couldn't you theoretically have whatever color you want as your color all the time? If you like red, your armies could still display as red on your screen even if you're the second player. It could just switch colors with the first player and make him green, as you see it.

It sure would make the "WTF BLUE YOU IDIOT" chat confusing, but it could work.


This is exactly it. Some people have suggested that each player be allowed to assign the colors (or at least their own color) for them to see.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby 20ozjolt on Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:56 pm

at-least allow the game creator to chose his color

i like to make games but green is my favorite color
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:16 am

agentcom wrote:
72o wrote:Couldn't you theoretically have whatever color you want as your color all the time? If you like red, your armies could still display as red on your screen even if you're the second player. It could just switch colors with the first player and make him green, as you see it.

It sure would make the "WTF BLUE YOU IDIOT" chat confusing, but it could work.


This is exactly it. Some people have suggested that each player be allowed to assign the colors (or at least their own color) for them to see.


I don't think it would drastically hurt anybody if people had to start referring to each other by username instead of in-game color. I think it would improve community camaraderie.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby chapcrap on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:23 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
agentcom wrote:
72o wrote:Couldn't you theoretically have whatever color you want as your color all the time? If you like red, your armies could still display as red on your screen even if you're the second player. It could just switch colors with the first player and make him green, as you see it.

It sure would make the "WTF BLUE YOU IDIOT" chat confusing, but it could work.


This is exactly it. Some people have suggested that each player be allowed to assign the colors (or at least their own color) for them to see.


I don't think it would drastically hurt anybody if people had to start referring to each other by username instead of in-game color. I think it would improve community camaraderie.

Yes, but like all things on the site, not everyone is aware of every aspect, so you can bet that people will still not now that you can assign colors and there would inevitably be confusion.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby ender516 on Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:35 am

The site could put "P1:", "P2:", etc. in front of the player names on the game page. It wouldn't take much to convince people that using the numbers was shorter than typing "red" or "blue". Better yet, a button next to the players name to inject "@name" into the chat box would be very handy.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby chapcrap on Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:20 am

ender516 wrote:The site could put "P1:", "P2:", etc. in front of the player names on the game page. It wouldn't take much to convince people that using the numbers was shorter than typing "red" or "blue". Better yet, a button next to the players name to inject "@name" into the chat box would be very handy.

That is something that could be a solution. I wouldn't have much of a problem with that. But, people would need to know not to use colors and there would still be some confusion, because you would have to look over at the side (or bottom) to match up the player number with the appropriate color, because you can't tell that just from the map.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby ender516 on Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:25 pm

chapcrap wrote:
ender516 wrote:The site could put "P1:", "P2:", etc. in front of the player names on the game page. It wouldn't take much to convince people that using the numbers was shorter than typing "red" or "blue". Better yet, a button next to the players name to inject "@name" into the chat box would be very handy.

That is something that could be a solution. I wouldn't have much of a problem with that. But, people would need to know not to use colors and there would still be some confusion, because you would have to look over at the side (or bottom) to match up the player number with the appropriate color, because you can't tell that just from the map.

Well, the colour codes feature could be modified to give the option of prepending player numbers rather than colours: instead of "r12" and "g3", you could see "1:12" and "2:3". Or to keep it short, use upper case alphabetics: "A12" and "B3", although this might not serve well with a Battle Royal of more than 26 players.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby agentcom on Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:56 pm

ender516 wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
ender516 wrote:The site could put "P1:", "P2:", etc. in front of the player names on the game page. It wouldn't take much to convince people that using the numbers was shorter than typing "red" or "blue". Better yet, a button next to the players name to inject "@name" into the chat box would be very handy.

That is something that could be a solution. I wouldn't have much of a problem with that. But, people would need to know not to use colors and there would still be some confusion, because you would have to look over at the side (or bottom) to match up the player number with the appropriate color, because you can't tell that just from the map.

Well, the colour codes feature could be modified to give the option of prepending player numbers rather than colours: instead of "r12" and "g3", you could see "1:12" and "2:3". Or to keep it short, use upper case alphabetics: "A12" and "B3", although this might not serve well with a Battle Royal of more than 26 players.


Damn, BRs presenting another problem. We have to be careful that we don't start heading in the direction of catering too much to the minority here. I don't mean to be dismissive, but generally it's a better system to make the minority (the one with color-blindness) do the extra work of matching up the chat entries to the color referred to than to make the majority have to associate people with some sort of identifying code.

I kind of liked the idea earlier thrown out about just letting the game creator pick their color. That seems to be a reasonable accommodation. I would go one further and say that the next person to join could also pick their color. That would open up quite a few games to people with color blindness.

HOWEVER, the major problem I see with these solutions is that most all of us have gotten used to certain colors being on the same team in the games that we like to play. I know this would definitely make it harder for me to play team games. I already get confused keeping track of which team yellow is on in my games.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby greenoaks on Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:18 pm

drunkmonkey wrote:
codierose wrote:2006 cool

Completely useless suggestion...it should sit here for another 6 years... :roll:

i would prefer to see it moved to rejected.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby -=- Tanarri -=- on Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:19 pm

I still think that the best option for this is to allow players to join the color slot they wish to play, much like the site does for team games. It would be the simplest option to implement and IMHO the one that would cause the least amount of confusion.
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Standard Achievement (4) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (2)
Assassin Achievement (2) Manual Troops Achievement (2) Freestyle Achievement (3) Polymorphic Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2)
Fog of War Achievement (4) Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Speed Achievement (4) Teammate Achievement (1) Random Map Achievement (1)
Cross-Map Achievement (3) Beta Map Achievement (1) Battle Royale Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (4) Tournament Achievement (1)
General Achievement (2) Clan Achievement (3) General Contribution (2)

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