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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby agentcom on Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:39 am

72o wrote:Couldn't you theoretically have whatever color you want as your color all the time? If you like red, your armies could still display as red on your screen even if you're the second player. It could just switch colors with the first player and make him green, as you see it.

It sure would make the "WTF BLUE YOU IDIOT" chat confusing, but it could work.


This is exactly it. Some people have suggested that each player be allowed to assign the colors (or at least their own color) for them to see.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby 20ozjolt on Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:56 pm

at-least allow the game creator to chose his color

i like to make games but green is my favorite color
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:16 am

agentcom wrote:
72o wrote:Couldn't you theoretically have whatever color you want as your color all the time? If you like red, your armies could still display as red on your screen even if you're the second player. It could just switch colors with the first player and make him green, as you see it.

It sure would make the "WTF BLUE YOU IDIOT" chat confusing, but it could work.


This is exactly it. Some people have suggested that each player be allowed to assign the colors (or at least their own color) for them to see.


I don't think it would drastically hurt anybody if people had to start referring to each other by username instead of in-game color. I think it would improve community camaraderie.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby chapcrap on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:23 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
agentcom wrote:
72o wrote:Couldn't you theoretically have whatever color you want as your color all the time? If you like red, your armies could still display as red on your screen even if you're the second player. It could just switch colors with the first player and make him green, as you see it.

It sure would make the "WTF BLUE YOU IDIOT" chat confusing, but it could work.


This is exactly it. Some people have suggested that each player be allowed to assign the colors (or at least their own color) for them to see.


I don't think it would drastically hurt anybody if people had to start referring to each other by username instead of in-game color. I think it would improve community camaraderie.

Yes, but like all things on the site, not everyone is aware of every aspect, so you can bet that people will still not now that you can assign colors and there would inevitably be confusion.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby ender516 on Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:35 am

The site could put "P1:", "P2:", etc. in front of the player names on the game page. It wouldn't take much to convince people that using the numbers was shorter than typing "red" or "blue". Better yet, a button next to the players name to inject "@name" into the chat box would be very handy.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby chapcrap on Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:20 am

ender516 wrote:The site could put "P1:", "P2:", etc. in front of the player names on the game page. It wouldn't take much to convince people that using the numbers was shorter than typing "red" or "blue". Better yet, a button next to the players name to inject "@name" into the chat box would be very handy.

That is something that could be a solution. I wouldn't have much of a problem with that. But, people would need to know not to use colors and there would still be some confusion, because you would have to look over at the side (or bottom) to match up the player number with the appropriate color, because you can't tell that just from the map.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby ender516 on Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:25 pm

chapcrap wrote:
ender516 wrote:The site could put "P1:", "P2:", etc. in front of the player names on the game page. It wouldn't take much to convince people that using the numbers was shorter than typing "red" or "blue". Better yet, a button next to the players name to inject "@name" into the chat box would be very handy.

That is something that could be a solution. I wouldn't have much of a problem with that. But, people would need to know not to use colors and there would still be some confusion, because you would have to look over at the side (or bottom) to match up the player number with the appropriate color, because you can't tell that just from the map.

Well, the colour codes feature could be modified to give the option of prepending player numbers rather than colours: instead of "r12" and "g3", you could see "1:12" and "2:3". Or to keep it short, use upper case alphabetics: "A12" and "B3", although this might not serve well with a Battle Royal of more than 26 players.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby agentcom on Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:56 pm

ender516 wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
ender516 wrote:The site could put "P1:", "P2:", etc. in front of the player names on the game page. It wouldn't take much to convince people that using the numbers was shorter than typing "red" or "blue". Better yet, a button next to the players name to inject "@name" into the chat box would be very handy.

That is something that could be a solution. I wouldn't have much of a problem with that. But, people would need to know not to use colors and there would still be some confusion, because you would have to look over at the side (or bottom) to match up the player number with the appropriate color, because you can't tell that just from the map.

Well, the colour codes feature could be modified to give the option of prepending player numbers rather than colours: instead of "r12" and "g3", you could see "1:12" and "2:3". Or to keep it short, use upper case alphabetics: "A12" and "B3", although this might not serve well with a Battle Royal of more than 26 players.


Damn, BRs presenting another problem. We have to be careful that we don't start heading in the direction of catering too much to the minority here. I don't mean to be dismissive, but generally it's a better system to make the minority (the one with color-blindness) do the extra work of matching up the chat entries to the color referred to than to make the majority have to associate people with some sort of identifying code.

I kind of liked the idea earlier thrown out about just letting the game creator pick their color. That seems to be a reasonable accommodation. I would go one further and say that the next person to join could also pick their color. That would open up quite a few games to people with color blindness.

HOWEVER, the major problem I see with these solutions is that most all of us have gotten used to certain colors being on the same team in the games that we like to play. I know this would definitely make it harder for me to play team games. I already get confused keeping track of which team yellow is on in my games.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby greenoaks on Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:18 pm

drunkmonkey wrote:
codierose wrote:2006 cool

Completely useless suggestion...it should sit here for another 6 years... :roll:

i would prefer to see it moved to rejected.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby -=- Tanarri -=- on Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:19 pm

I still think that the best option for this is to allow players to join the color slot they wish to play, much like the site does for team games. It would be the simplest option to implement and IMHO the one that would cause the least amount of confusion.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby agentcom on Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:25 pm

-=- Tanarri -=- wrote:I still think that the best option for this is to allow players to join the color slot they wish to play, much like the site does for team games. It would be the simplest option to implement and IMHO the one that would cause the least amount of confusion.


Doh! That seems so obvious now that you say it.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby ender516 on Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:32 pm

agentcom wrote:
-=- Tanarri -=- wrote:I still think that the best option for this is to allow players to join the color slot they wish to play, much like the site does for team games. It would be the simplest option to implement and IMHO the one that would cause the least amount of confusion.


Doh! That seems so obvious now that you say it.

You know, if you reread the first post, that may be pretty much what was proposed. All that would be need to be added to what was said (separate Join a Game links for each slot in a game) would be the choice of slot for the creator of the game.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start ~Stickied/Last Call TFO~

Postby agentcom on Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:29 am

:roll: Yeah right ... next thing you're going to tell me that the Classic map is wrong or something ...

:-o What? LOL, you're completely right. I think that's what it says, too. I wonder when in this 13 page convo this thing derailed.

I just randomly went back to page 9 and saw this:

TheForgivenOne wrote:
Commander62890 wrote:Don't do this. It would totally f*ck with my head in team games.
I am so used to dubs being R+G vs B+Y, trips being R,G,B vs Y,P,C, and quads being R,G,B,Y vs P,C,O,S.


If all the colors were mixed up... I'm serious, this could have an effect on my gameplay (if I was rushing). At the very least, it would be confusing... all this so you can have your favorite color? I love blue, but there's no way I want this to happen and affect the game like this.


Honestly, I'm totally fine with this being implemented in every other type of game, but you can't make this mandatory for team games. An option, maybe. But this can't go through and affect team games.


That was already thrown out the door Commander. The way we have it now, is that players join what slot they want. So in a Quads game, it would still be R+G+B+Y vs +P+C+O+S. Instead you'd have something like this

[Player A]
Join as Green
Join as Blue
Join as Yellow
vs
Join as Pink
Join as Cyan
Join as Orange
Join as Slate


It looks like a mod edited the OP without noting what they had done. And the regular posters must not have got the message. I'm gonna change the title to reflect this. Maybe help head off some of the confusion.
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Re: Choose Army Color At Start

Postby -=- Tanarri -=- on Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:52 am

ender516 wrote:
agentcom wrote:
-=- Tanarri -=- wrote:I still think that the best option for this is to allow players to join the color slot they wish to play, much like the site does for team games. It would be the simplest option to implement and IMHO the one that would cause the least amount of confusion.


Doh! That seems so obvious now that you say it.

You know, if you reread the first post, that may be pretty much what was proposed. All that would be need to be added to what was said (separate Join a Game links for each slot in a game) would be the choice of slot for the creator of the game.


I thought this was what was decided looooong ago for this suggestion after much discussion. It just makes the most amount of sense. It's a small detail that some may appreciate and others may not care about, but at least it shouldn't take much to change the code of the site for it.
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Re: [GP/UI] Choose Which Position (Color) to Join in a Game

Postby Army of GOD on Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:29 pm

Do we have pick your own color yet?
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