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Re: Fortifications

Postby Thezzaruz on Sat May 24, 2008 6:21 pm

It's a bit tricky though as it would have to be a limit on how far each single army could be fortified for each round (and it would need to keep track of each individual army and its movement).

i.e a army standing on indonesia can be fortified to siam but not from siam to india (in the same turn), however an army standing on siam (before the indonesian troops where fortified) should be able to fortify to india (even after the indonesian troops was fortified). Because if you allow armies to be double fortified then you just have a slow "unlimited" and that would be a crappy idea.
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Re: Fortifications

Postby Simon Viavant on Sat May 24, 2008 7:13 pm

That would be simple to do, But it still might confuse people. If there are 4 armies on siam and you move 10 from indonesia then you can only move 3 to india. But I can see people hitting fortify over and over again and wondering why it's saying illegal fortification.
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Re: Fortifications

Postby ParadiceCity9 on Sat May 24, 2008 8:37 pm

This is just literally unlimited forts...no point...
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Re: Fortifications

Postby Simon Viavant on Sat May 24, 2008 9:32 pm

Did you even read it? Let's try this again. Each army can move one space, and then can't move. So, you have four armies in Brazil and seven in Venezuela. You can fortify three to Venezuela from Brazil, but you can only fortify seven from Venezuela to Central America.
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Re: Fortifications

Postby ParadiceCity9 on Sat May 24, 2008 10:11 pm

Well it would be too complicated regardless. And no i did not read it.
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Re: Fortifications

Postby Thezzaruz on Sun May 25, 2008 8:15 am

Simon Viavant wrote:That would be simple to do,


Not at all sure about that...
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Re: Fortifications

Postby Simon Viavant on Sun May 25, 2008 12:53 pm

I hate it when people take one phrase out of context.
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Re: Fortifications

Postby Thezzaruz on Sun May 25, 2008 6:34 pm

Simon Viavant wrote:I hate it when people take one phrase out of context.


Well as you wrote the post that sentence had a different context than the rest of the post so I don't see what you a complaining about.
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Re: Fortifications

Postby blakebowling on Sun May 25, 2008 8:21 pm

This Idea has already been rejected, next time check the Suggestion Box at the top of this forum ;)
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Unlimited Adjacent Fortification

Postby Kemmler on Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:23 pm

Concise description:
  • Unlimited Adjacent Fortification

Specifics:
  • It is like adjacent but you can make unlimited fortifications to adjacent teritories.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • nice new fortifying option
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Re: Unlimited Adjacent Fortification

Postby Stroop on Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:27 pm

Has been rejected in the past
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Re: Unlimited Adjacent Fortification

Postby pancakemix on Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:28 pm

Then I could just fortify through all my territories until I get them where I want them. All this is is Unlimited that's annoying and takes forever.
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Re: Unlimited Adjacent Fortification

Postby Stroop on Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:30 pm

The general idea is that you can't do that. Every army could individually make 1 adjacent fortification move.

For example, you have 3 on A, 4 on B and 1 on C. You could fort 2 from A to B, but then only 3 from B to C, as two of them had moved from A and used up their fortification move.

It's already been rejected though, so really no point in discussing it
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Re: Unlimited Adjacent Fortification

Postby blakebowling on Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:36 pm

Stroop wrote:The general idea is that you can't do that. Every army could individually make 1 adjacent fortification move.

For example, you have 3 on A, 4 on B and 1 on C. You could fort 2 from A to B, but then only 3 from B to C, as two of them had moved from A and used up their fortification move.

It's already been rejected though, so really no point in discussing it

right, it's too much work coding that in
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Re: Unlimited Adjacent Fortification

Postby Skittles! on Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:41 am

And you can just do it anyway..
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Re: Unlimited Adjacent Fortification

Postby Kemmler on Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:58 am

Stroop wrote:The general idea is that you can't do that. Every army could individually make 1 adjacent fortification move.

For example, you have 3 on A, 4 on B and 1 on C. You could fort 2 from A to B, but then only 3 from B to C, as two of them had moved from A and used up their fortification move.

It's already been rejected though, so really no point in discussing it


no I had the move any army you want in mind
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Re: Unlimited Adjacent Fortification

Postby Stroop on Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:00 pm

Kemmler wrote:
Stroop wrote:The general idea is that you can't do that. Every army could individually make 1 adjacent fortification move.

For example, you have 3 on A, 4 on B and 1 on C. You could fort 2 from A to B, but then only 3 from B to C, as two of them had moved from A and used up their fortification move.

It's already been rejected though, so really no point in discussing it


no I had the move any army you want in mind


oh, you mean Unlimited? I think we have that
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Re: Unlimited Adjacent Fortification

Postby cicero on Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:39 am

Merged with existing thread:
Unlimited Adjacent Fortification - posts 4 to 10 December 2006 - first post here
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Unlimited Adjacent Reinforcements(not what you think)

Postby Beinion on Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:56 pm

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  • Ok... so at this point most of you are probably thinking that this would make no sense because it would ultimately have the same results as normal unlimited reinforcements... However, this isn't what I mean... I just called it that for lack of a better name... ;)
    So... what would this be? Basically... you can move every army ONCE to an adjacent territory. For example, You have 5 troops on #1 territory which connects to #2 and #3... Like normal adjacent reinforcements, you could move 4 troops from #1 to either #2 or #3. Unlike normal adjacent reinforcements, you could move, for example, 2 to #2 and 2 to #3. Then you could not move these troops again. HOWEVER, you could still move troops on other parts of the board one time as well.

Specifics:
  • I'll just explain it a different way... In the reinforcement phase, each territory has X-1 "Free" troops when X signifies the total amount of troops. Each of these Free troops can move once adjacently and they then revert to "Restrained" troops. Reinforcement ends when the player clicks the end reinforcement button or when all troops become Restrained.
    So, basically, it could create a wave or string like movement... You could have your whole defense line advance at one time or you could in like, Fuedal Wars, have a "supply string" that keeps getting "pulled" forward one step each turn.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • It would result in new strategies for all maps as well as create very changed styles of play for maps that have auto-deploy places(such as Fuedal Wars)
  • It would improve the normal adjacent option (though that would still be an option)
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Re: Unlimited Adjacent Reinforcements(not what you think)

Postby Mr_Adams on Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:41 pm

previously suggested
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Re: Unlimited Adjacent Reinforcements(not what you think)

Postby Beinion on Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:28 am

I see...
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Re: Unlimited Adjacent Fortification *Rejected*

Postby Grifter on Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:12 pm

I like this idea. I hope that as new features are added to XML script in the future that this might be possible to code. From a user perspective once troops are moved into a territory then they cannot be moved out. This would limit movement to just the adjacent territory.
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Re: Unlimited Adjacent Fortification *Rejected*

Postby Teflon Kris on Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:58 pm

It would be handy if people who aren't intelligent enough to understand the suggestion refrain from commenting further than to state that the idea is 'too complicated' etc.

Similarly, it would be equally handy for those who simply dont like the suggestion refrain from commenting as this is an additional option which they can choose not to choose.

And thirdly, it would also be handy if those who aren't responsible for programming of the game again refrain from claiming that "the coding isn't possible" etc.

Which leaves us with the question: Is this an additional option worth adding?

Some people would find it complicated, others would find it a more strategic alternative to 'chained unlimited' (which is what we currently have).

Personally, I would prefer something like 'double adjacent' and 'double chained' - and surely most players would be able to understand that?

However, unlimited adjacent is the most realistic type of reinforcement when we are playing a war game with troops. In a real war, generals would not have the restriction of moving only one set of troops accross one border (adjacent). However, they would have the geographical restriction that it is not possible to move troops half-way around the globe (chained or unlimited chained). Unlimited adjacent means each individual troop can move accross one border - much more tru to life.
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Re: Unlimited Adjacent Fortification *Rejected*

Postby maasman on Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:46 pm

I play this at home all the time and really enjoy it :D
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Fortifications....

Postby Keredrex on Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:49 am

Maybe this has been mentioned but was wondering if anyone thought of new Fortification options...

I think we could use an Unlimited Adjacent option.
basically, giving all troops a 1 territory movement rate during fortification.
kind of a weaker form of unlimited fortifications.

Thoughts?

or maybe think of ot this way....

Unlimited Adjacent Fortifications

Basically same rule as Adjacent... but it can be done multiple times on your turn. trick is that when a fortification is made between 2 territories, that would be the end of movement for those troops. that way you can't run a continuous line as it is in Chained fortifications.
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