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Re: (poll)Scoreboards-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby Geger on Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:05 am

qwert wrote:Any more oppinions?


No. Let's start next month. In New Year we will have a first MVP of the month :
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Re: (poll)Scoreboards-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby Qwert on Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:17 pm

No. Let's start next month. In New Year we will have a first MVP of the month :
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Well first these need to be accepted from Lack,and then need to be on to-do list,and then need to waith to be upgrade into Site.
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Re: (poll)Scoreboards-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby The Neon Peon on Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:16 pm

qwert wrote:
No. Let's start next month. In New Year we will have a first MVP of the month :
Geger


Well first these need to be accepted from Lack,and then need to be on to-do list,and...

then we need to wait for the huge list of suggestions from 2006 to get done...
then we need to wait for the huge list of suggestions from 2007 to get done...
then we need to wait for the several suggestions from 2008 to get done...
qwert wrote:then need to waith to be upgrade into Site.
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Re: (poll)Scoreboards-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby Geger on Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:54 am

The Neon Peon wrote:
qwert wrote:
No. Let's start next month. In New Year we will have a first MVP of the month


Well first these need to be accepted from Lack,and then need to be on to-do list,and...

then we need to wait for the huge list of suggestions from 2006 to get done...
then we need to wait for the huge list of suggestions from 2007 to get done...
then we need to wait for the several suggestions from 2008 to get done...
qwert wrote:then need to waith to be upgrade into Site.


yai... :(

Maybe someone from Team Creative (add-on writer - I don't know how to call them :oops: ) can write a script like Map Rank. Also we can make an "unofficial" MVP of the month.
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Re: (poll)Scoreboards-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby Qwert on Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:10 am

then we need to wait for the huge list of suggestions from 2006 to get done...
then we need to wait for the huge list of suggestions from 2007 to get done...
then we need to wait for the several suggestions from 2008 to get done...

are you serious? We have sugestions from 2006 in to-do list?
Lack definitly need to hire more man to do all these things.
These mean,if mine sugestion be acepted,he will upgrade these in 2015 years. #-o
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Re: (poll)Scoreboards-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby Qwert on Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:31 pm

Any more oppinion?
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Re: (poll)SCOREBOARD-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby Qwert on Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:20 pm

what "pending" means?
I find some old idea abouth player of the mont,but its dont have enough explanations ,and is very old.
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Re: (poll)SCOREBOARD-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby Qwert on Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:21 pm

Ok i create potentialy new formula who will solve problem with points dumping.

MVP Formula
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One any rank opponent give 5 points
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One game calculation formula
Points won*number of opponents
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Everybody start with equal number of points 0(no negative points)

example-
1v1 game-winner get 5 points
3 player game-winner get 20 points
4 player game-winner get 45 points
5 player game-winner get 80 points
6 player game-winner get 125 points
7 player game-winner get 180 points
8 player game-winner get 245 points
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More opponents in one game,you will get more MVP points.

These formula will prevent points dumping.
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Re: (poll)SCOREBOARD-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby Geger on Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:54 pm

Hey... I think tomorrow will be a perfect start for this ;)

HAPPY NEW YEAR, EVERYBODY !!
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Re: (poll)SCOREBOARD-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby The Neon Peon on Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:38 am

Geger wrote:Hey... I think tomorrow will be a perfect start for this ;)

HAPPY NEW YEAR, EVERYBODY !!

And lack can do that much coding in one night?

If that were true, he would be the richest man in the world... can look through an idea, put a *to do* stamp on it, think of how to code it, code it, and update the site. Miracle working right there.

Happy New Year, everyone!
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Re: (poll)SCOREBOARD-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby Qwert on Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:42 am

by Geger » Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:54 am

Hey... I think tomorrow will be a perfect start for this

HAPPY NEW YEAR, EVERYBODY !!

Yes,maybe :-s ,only if lack recruiting all elfs from Santa to create all these coding :lol:
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Re: (poll)SCOREBOARD-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby Geger on Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:12 am

qwert wrote:
by Geger » Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:54 am

Hey... I think tomorrow will be a perfect start for this

HAPPY NEW YEAR, EVERYBODY !!

Yes,maybe :-s ,only if lack recruiting all elfs from Santa to create all these coding :lol:
Happy new years :)


Of course not :mrgreen:
I meant 'we' can start in this Year.
All games are stored in Database, right. Lack can make the coding later and get the information from the DB. And in the end of this month we will have the 1st MVP ;)
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Re: (poll)SCOREBOARD-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby The Neon Peon on Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:28 am

Geger wrote:Of course not :mrgreen:
I meant 'we' can start in this Year.
All games are stored in Database, right. Lack can make the coding later and get the information from the DB. And in the end of this month we will have the 1st MVP ;)

too much strain on the server I think. It has to go back through old games and gather the info for the new scoring system (everyone starts equal, so they have to rework all wins/losses with the new points).

Recalculating all the points will cause a great deal of trouble to do properly because the outcome of one game affects the amount of points you gain or lose in the rest.

A lot easier to start from new than all that coding to rework through the old games.
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Re: (poll)SCOREBOARD-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby dhallmeyer on Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:29 pm

Here's how you could avoid point dumping: use the standard scoring system, all of it. start every month with every player at 1k, and factor the monthly MVP based on that. it would give those on the first 10 pages just as much chance as everyone else, without adding to the complexity much. You could use the same format for any length of time (year, 3 mos, 6 mos) just like map rank.
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Re: (poll)SCOREBOARD-MVP of the Month(description page 1-medal)

Postby Qwert on Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:49 pm

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Here's how you could avoid point dumping: use the standard scoring system, all of it. start every month with every player at 1k, and factor the monthly MVP based on that. it would give those on the first 10 pages just as much chance as everyone else, without adding to the complexity much. You could use the same format for any length of time (year, 3 mos, 6 mos) just like map rank.

These is initial idea from me,but some people think that high ranked player will first dumping point in one month,and then will collect in second month, i almost think that high ranked player will togeter cooperate and help each other to be MVP,and in that way will have bigest chances to be MVP.These is one option.
In second option,everybody will start equal,and everybody will get same ammount of points, no negative points only win is counting,and these will be separate counting,so if people try to dump point,these will be big change in main scoreboard, and with these dumping will be in minus in main scoreboard, and will not get nothing in second month,because everybody start with same score, also low ranked player will get same ammount of point like high ranked player. Who have more win-he is MVP,i belive that conpettition will be big.
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Postby Qwert on Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:54 pm

too much strain on the server I think. It has to go back through old games and gather the info for the new scoring system (everyone starts equal, so they have to rework all wins/losses with the new points).

Recalculating all the points will cause a great deal of trouble to do properly because the outcome of one game affects the amount of points you gain or lose in the rest.

A lot easier to start from new than all that coding to rework through the old games.

Why is need to look old games? MVP will start from new begining, if these(teoreticaly) start next month,then will be counted only games who are finish in february,and in the end of month,We get MVP and all scores will be reset to 0,and will start for MVP of Mart.
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Postby Qwert on Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:01 am

Any new option?
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Postby bedub1 on Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:49 pm

This is a sweet idea.
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Postby Qwert on Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:25 am

Thanks bedud.
I need more constructives oppinion to these idea be even more good ;)
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Postby Qwert on Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:46 pm

Any new sugestions?
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Postby Qwert on Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:21 pm

well these is third idea for mvp calculation.
Third Possible opcion for MVP points
Every body have same start 0,and counting only number of defeating opponents(ofcourse you must win a game).
Example:
2 player games-get 1 point for win
3 player games-get 2 point for win
4 player games-get 3 point for win
5 player games-get 4 point for win
6 player games-get 5 point for win
7 player games-get 6 point for win
8 player games-get 7 point for win
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2 Doubles games-every team member get 1 point for win
3 Doubles games-every team member get 2 point for win
4 Doubles games-every team member get 3 point for win
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Triples games-every team member get 1 point for win
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Quads games-every team member get 1 point for win
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Rating calculation:Example-number of points/number of games
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Need to have at least minimum 10 finished games to be candidate for MVP.
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New recruit will not be calculated in win or MVP score.
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Postby Qwert on Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:02 pm

wow,im almost forget on these sugestion, its lost in forum.
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Re: (poll)SCOREBOARD-MVP of the Month(description page 1-med

Postby Qwert on Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:07 pm

now im thinking on third possible formula for give point for mvp. These will be like quality point -high ranked opponent-more points-low ranked opponent less point.
Also for MVP will need to count only unique opponents for one month, because someone can abuse ,playing with same players for these avhivement. Now i need to figure how will formula work.
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Re: (poll)SCOREBOARD-MVP of the Month(description page 1-med

Postby Qwert on Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:21 pm

Posible formula no4.
rank value:
fieldmarshal--------------------16 point
Brigadier=General---------------14 point
Major=Colonel-------------------12 point
Lieutenant=Captain--------------10 point
Sergeant=Sergeant 1st Class------8 point
Corporal=Corporal 1st Class------6 point
Cadet-Private-Private 1st Class--4 point
New Recruit-Cook-----------------2 point
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For mvp points are calculate when you defeate unique opponent only once. Like you get,you also can lost points in mvp montly scoreboard.

distribution points betwen ranks.
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Re: Two SCoreboards

Postby Commander62890 on Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:42 pm

I only read page 1, Qwert, but this was my impression as soon as I read your suggestion:

BENJIKAT IS DEAD wrote:If I start the month on 3000 pts and you on 1500, then if we just play against 1500 pt players, then you need to win half as many games as me in order to have the same net gain. Therefore is I was serious about gaining the monthly prize, then the lower my starting score the better - hence my comment about points dumping.


I don't really understand your recent posts, Qwert - does it alleviate the problem that Benjikat discussed?

... The problem being that it will be beneficial to point dump at the end of the month in order to start at a low rank at the start of the next month.
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