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Postby KoolBak on Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:05 pm

OK...so I am in xigames, a group here - we have our own private forum, right? Why then, does it sometimes say there are non-group members browsing our forum? I have been told by a mod friend that perhaps if the person (nonmember) clicks on our group NAME for information, it might show them as browsing our forum? This doesnt sit right with me - I have asked around before but never gotten a CLEAR, DEFINITIVE answer. I dont want to mail Lack and bother him, but I want to KNOW.

We have very personal information posted there and I am NOT cool with it being open to the unwashed masses due to possible site hiccups......

PS - in researching the person that was "browsing" our private forum, I discovered he was a multi.....lmao.
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Re: Private Forums

Postby chapcrap on Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:23 pm

KoolBak wrote:OK...so I am in xigames, a group here - we have our own private forum, right? Why then, does it sometimes say there are non-group members browsing our forum? I have been told by a mod friend that perhaps if the person (nonmember) clicks on our group NAME for information, it might show them as browsing our forum? This doesnt sit right with me - I have asked around before but never gotten a CLEAR, DEFINITIVE answer. I dont want to mail Lack and bother him, but I want to KNOW.

We have very personal information posted there and I am NOT cool with it being open to the unwashed masses due to possible site hiccups......

PS - in researching the person that was "browsing" our private forum, I discovered he was a multi.....lmao.

I'm not in the group. Give me a link to the forum and I'll tell you what I see when I am logged in and when I am logged out...

Also, you could log out yourself and see.
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Re: Private Forums

Postby KoolBak on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:06 pm

I'd have to log in as someone else, NOT in our forum, so thats not possible - I will PM you however....thanks for the offer!
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Re: Private Forums

Postby SirSebstar on Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:24 pm

http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2117102 and
http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2132366
states that this is the result of errors, no user can actually see private posts other then people like the top admin.
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Re: Private Forums

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:47 pm

Ahoy Koolbak,

Earlier in 2011 I investigated some issues similar to this. I had some similar concerns and questions, so I went digging. This is what I found out, which is most likely happening in your case (and others who have private forums). As Sebstar has pointed out, essentially:

From time to time, you may come across unauthorized users or guests browsing Private Usergroup forums. Most likely, these are just phpBB Ghosts created by the following:

When a user tries to visit a forum or a forum topic without the appropriate permission settings, the user/guest gets stuck at a locked door page, explaining that they 'are not authorized to read this forum.' The reason they show up as 'browsing' the forum, even though they have been denied access by permission settings, is that the session page is recorded before the authorizations are checked, and thus, the information is fetched and displayed before the user was in reality denied access

Does that answer your question?


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Re: Private Forums

Postby KoolBak on Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:50 pm

If you are saying this IS the way it is, yes you have eased my old brain pain ;o) Thanks monkey boy :D

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Re: Private Forums

Postby TeeGee on Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:18 am

KoolBak wrote:If you are saying this IS the way it is, yes you have eased my old brain pain ;o) Thanks monkey boy :D

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To give you a practical example, I will give you an actual link to the admin forum section of a forum that I run, remember this is a private part of the forum and even with a direct link you should only see either a login page or an error message

http://www.btaust.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=20&sid=f4f024194705dd5063759dbf14270432
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Re: Private Forums

Postby KoolBak on Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:35 pm

Yup...I could not access it; I wonder if it listed me as "browsing" the forum whilst I was there....?

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Re: Private Forums

Postby owenshooter on Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:58 am

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Re: Private Forums

Postby KoolBak on Thu May 31, 2012 9:22 am

OK....hate to beat a dead horse, but I am still concerned. Our private forum has said it has 1 "Guest" perusing for over an hour now.....at one point there were 2 "Guests"......WTF? If this is simply a "bug" where it lists a guest, even though they cannot access our threads, if they happen to click on our private forum, WHY would it be there for over an hour?

We are a very low profile group and VERY selectively recruit, so its not like theres lots of hopefuls out there checking us out....lol.

I'd really like this resolved to my and our administrator's satisfaction. We are a very tight group of adults and have PERSONAL information posted there....shit we DO NOT post in the general internet.....so.....please mods :D
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Re: Private Forums

Postby BGtheBrain on Thu May 31, 2012 9:37 am

If someones status is set to "hidden" they show up as a guest.
So ANY member of your group browsing as "hidden" would should up as a guest, even though they are a member.

Here is the link to my clans forum
viewforum.php?f=558&start=0

This is what someone not authorized to access your forum will see.

As far as why it says guest for an hour, not sure.
The links SirSebstar provided above also give some good info regarding phpBB and this issue.
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Re: Private Forums

Postby KoolBak on Thu May 31, 2012 10:10 am

OK.....thanks for soothing my paranoid nature......weird!
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Re: Private Forums

Postby BGtheBrain on Thu May 31, 2012 10:16 am

KoolBak wrote:OK.....thanks for soothing my paranoid nature......weird!


Have you had tribalfusion009 try to view your forum yet? :lol:
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Re: Private Forums

Postby KoolBak on Thu May 31, 2012 12:13 pm

lol....That name showed up there! I PM'ed that person asking specifics....how the hell did you know that?!?!?! :shock: :lol:
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Re: Private Forums

Postby BGtheBrain on Thu May 31, 2012 12:24 pm

He's in ours about once a week.
We have an entire thread dedicated to speculating wtf he is doing lol

Hes done the same to Myth as well.

Ive seen him in the Mod forums as well...

He is my enemy lol
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Re: Private Forums

Postby trinicardinal on Thu May 31, 2012 1:05 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:He's in ours about once a week.
We have an entire thread dedicated to speculating wtf he is doing lol

Hes done the same to Myth as well.

Ive seen him in the Mod forums as well...

He is my enemy lol



He tries to get in everywhere...lol... I've seen threads on him in several places
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Re: Private Forums

Postby KoolBak on Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:05 am

What up with that fool? :twisted:
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Re: Private Forums

Postby Jippd on Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:03 am

You assume he tries...whose to say he isn't? Wouldn't make sense someone would really keep 'trying' and not play any games on this site (0 active games)...doesn't ever post on the forums (0 posts)

Might be worth an IP check maybe its a cook account created by someone else who has found a way to hack the forum security but doesn't want it tied back to their account that they are constantly "browsing"
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Re: Private Forums

Postby agentcom on Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:36 am

Jippd, that's what I was thinking
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Re: Private Forums

Postby chapcrap on Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:16 am

They (the people who check) have checked into him multiple times. He's been discussed in the mod forum more than once.
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Re: Private Forums

Postby Jippd on Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:00 am

quirky little bugger
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Re: Private Forums

Postby blakebowling on Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:24 am

BGtheBrain wrote:If someones status is set to "hidden" they show up as a guest.
So ANY member of your group browsing as "hidden" would should up as a guest, even though they are a member.


This is not true. The only people who show up as guests are those who aren't logged in (or those who have been forum banned).
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Re: Private Forums

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:07 pm

I show up as a guest when I browse my clan forum...
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Re: Private Forums

Postby blakebowling on Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:39 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:I show up as a guest when I browse my clan forum...

Unless they changed it in the recent version of phpBB
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Re: Private Forums

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:38 pm

blakebowling wrote:
BGtheBrain wrote:I show up as a guest when I browse my clan forum...

Unless they changed it in the recent version of phpBB

wow, I wouldve bet money on that, but Im glad I didnt.

I just went to verify this, and well. Im wrong.

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