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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby deathcomesrippin on Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:24 pm

Barney Rubble wrote:Maybe just leave then ?? People that try to help you and explain things to you are Jerks ,... etc.. KA is unqualified ,The mods are to soft ,Now BG is picking on you instead of what Banning the Peruvian for life or what ??? .Want CC to mail you a piece of his ass?? Rules are in place they were followed Thats it end of story ....BG is probably closer to the mark with his commenting on whining.



I don't normally do this but.....

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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby Evil Semp on Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:25 pm

So that's where I left my soap box.
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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby eddie2 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:44 pm

Evil Semp wrote:So that's where I left my soap box.


lol as long as you didnt bend over to pick it up evil.....
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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby eddie2 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:59 pm

well visgoths what can i say i just read the game chat of the game in ?..

no. 1
revealing of positions and troup count in a fog game is seriously frowned upon, some also class it as cheating....
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2012-03-02 19:14:20 - visgoths: im afraid it might be too late.
2012-03-03 23:46:12 - visgoths: Green, pink has 3 on bitlis and 6 on erzurum.

2012-03-06 23:51:07 - visgoths: alright, I landed on British Kuwait. Hope I can hold it. he's got 30 on jersualem


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mo since no formal truce was made in game chat by you and the player in ? you could say it looks like you were involved in s/d.. it even looks like the 2 of you could of attacked what was said in the pm, but since fog that wont be seen till end of game. and by your reaction i think the mods should do to you as you want done to others if the log shows that attack.
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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby jefjef on Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:57 pm

visgoths wrote:He doesn't even have to forfeit in the game that he tried to cheat? This is so weak. If you look at his ratings he has been accused of cheating before. He is a habitual violator. I don't have it out for the guy - I just think the enforcement is weak considering how blatantly he was caught.

Secret Diplomacy is a major violation and yet the violator gets only a warning? This is so weak.


Proper procedure was followed and the C&A team patiently and clearly explained the warning to you. It is an escalated punishment system. If he gets caught doing it again then he gets a nice web site ban. (BTW: Some people actually don't realize SD is a violation or understand what SD is.)

Thanks for reporting it! =D>

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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby eddie2 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:48 am

even better should your ass be banned as well..
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you were taking the piss out of a religion in this game this is against site rules and is classed as bigotry,
Bigotry includes racism, sexism, ageism, homophobia/sexual orientation bashing, religion bashing, lack of religion bashing, or wishing violence on any group of people, etc.
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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby cookie0117 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:01 am

visgoths wrote:"chill out", " take a deep breath" - I interpret those comments to reflect a sense that cheating is no big deal. We obviously differ on this translation if you are speaking for everyone except me in this thread. In most games when you are caught cheating you are disqualified so forgive me if my posts reflected my surprise that the offender was left off with just a warning. I understand now that there is a process and warnings are given for first time offenders. The people on the thread who feel differently are welcome to their opinions but shouldn't criticize or tell me to chill. We obviously have a different idea about what rules mean. I think the rules are soft on cheaters.


I simple ment you were beginning to get quite personal in your attack on the mods, all that will happen is you will receive a forum ban as the one think that is taken more seriously than cheating in this game ( yes it is only a game!!) is PERSONALLY attacking people. Also ranting for ranting sake generally gets you no where apart from on the other side of a much larger rant. As appears to be happening...

The person was punsihed for breaking the rules inline with the rules. I know the rules in detail take some getting used to on this site as they are not recorded in full in one place. In future you will get alot more support for any cause you wish to fight if you try not to take eveyone on at once from the start.
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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:36 am

cookie0117 wrote:The person was punsihed for breaking the rules inline with the rules. I know the rules in detail take some getting used to on this site as they are not recorded in full in one place.


You can always read the Community Guidelines 'Rule Enforcement' section, and also our good old Rules Page.


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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby cookie0117 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:47 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
cookie0117 wrote:The person was punsihed for breaking the rules inline with the rules. I know the rules in detail take some getting used to on this site as they are not recorded in full in one place.


You can always read the Community Guidelines 'Rule Enforcement' section, and also our good old Rules Page.


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I am aware of most of the rules and dos/donts, my comment was more intented to mean there is no place where very rule is explained in detail i.e. the full CC rule book, listing punishments and procedures. The basic rules page says SD is not permitted but it does not tell you how it will be delt with.

If that was added somewhere it might help prevent some of these situation and also help with transparency of the C & A department
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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby eddie2 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:10 pm

cookie0117 wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
cookie0117 wrote:The person was punsihed for breaking the rules inline with the rules. I know the rules in detail take some getting used to on this site as they are not recorded in full in one place.


You can always read the Community Guidelines 'Rule Enforcement' section, and also our good old Rules Page.


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I am aware of most of the rules and dos/donts, my comment was more intented to mean there is no place where very rule is explained in detail i.e. the full CC rule book, listing punishments and procedures. The basic rules page says SD is not permitted but it does not tell you how it will be delt with.

If that was added somewhere it might help prevent some of these situation and also help with transparency of the C & A department


rofl you forgot the most important part.. community guidelines say 1 thing. q and a says another thing(in the help section.) and the rules another.. whenever a update to a rule happens they only ever change one of the above.
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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:18 pm

cookie0117 wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
cookie0117 wrote:The person was punsihed for breaking the rules inline with the rules. I know the rules in detail take some getting used to on this site as they are not recorded in full in one place.


You can always read the Community Guidelines 'Rule Enforcement' section, and also our good old Rules Page.


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I am aware of most of the rules and dos/donts, my comment was more intented to mean there is no place where very rule is explained in detail i.e. the full CC rule book, listing punishments and procedures. The basic rules page says SD is not permitted but it does not tell you how it will be delt with.

If that was added somewhere it might help prevent some of these situation and also help with transparency of the C & A department


The Rules page doesn't talk much about enforcement, since it doesn't need to. Go to the Community Guidelines, where I linked if you would scan it and give it a once over, and you can see enforcement in detail.


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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby jimdugan8 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:28 pm

Is it legal to intentionally miss turns to get deferred troops? I'm in a game with a freemium member who went first and did this. In checkng his game history he has a long history of making it a practice to miss one sometimes two rounds in a row. This is a HUGE flaw in the game and I'm guessing it's been brought up before, but the powers that be have decided to let it be.
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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby SirSebstar on Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:43 pm

jimdugan8 wrote:Is it legal to intentionally miss turns to get deferred troops? I'm in a game with a freemium member who went first and did this. In checkng his game history he has a long history of making it a practice to miss one sometimes two rounds in a row. This is a HUGE flaw in the game and I'm guessing it's been brought up before, but the powers that be have decided to let it be.

most modestly good players know that it is very rare that defferred troops are key to winning in regular games. even more players will not play someone with a low percentage on turns taken.
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28. Why do people get extra troops when they miss turns?

The fact is that things come up in real life and many people cannot reach a computer every single day. People who missed a turn are not receiving any bonus, only the troops they would have normally received. Getting the troops for turns missed encourages people to return and continue playing the game, which is one the most important things. A decent player will be able to keep track of how many missed troops an opponent can add, and act strategically to counter the extra troops.
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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby jimdugan8 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:46 pm

I understand it, it's just that it creates a way for players to manipulate the system. And it slows the game down. I will definitely being adding this player to my foe list. Maybe a better solution would be for the player to get the deferred troops, but only after they've completed their turn. This way they can deploy the troops, but not use them in an offensive manner.
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Re: Cheating & Abuse Enforcement

Postby SirSebstar on Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:23 pm

jimdugan8 wrote:I understand it, it's just that it creates a way for players to manipulate the system. And it slows the game down. I will definitely being adding this player to my foe list. Maybe a better solution would be for the player to get the deferred troops, but only after they've completed their turn. This way they can deploy the troops, but not use them in an offensive manner.

eh.. they only get the troops after they attack phase has ended.... so what you sugest has already been done...
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