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by **danfrank** on Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:45 pm

Justified or not , it is your prerogative to miss turns. CC`s only course of action to prevent this type of behavior was to add your turn attendance percentage to a players profile.

Rarely do i miss as a strategic ploy. In fact it is probably closer to never, I mainly miss because my timing is off in 24 hr games. I try to group all those turns after 9 est. At this point in my CC career , if i am in a speed game and i know i`m doomed , i`ll just DEADBEAT. Theres a tag for that in the useless rating system. This isn`t ebay , players aren`t trying to sell me something. Therefore , i can careless if your a 5.0 , 4.8 or 2.3 .

I have missed alot of turns , according to my profile i miss 3 percent of my turns. By the numbers , I estimate i have taken about 100,000 turns and have missed ( according to cc ) approximately 3000 turns give or take 499 .

The best advice i can give to you is , Try to attack the bonuses if one is held , or take as many terts as you can to lower deployment and deferred troops before the players next turn.

by **visgoths** on Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:40 am

Rule #2: No secret diplomacy

Any form of diplomatic discussion between opponents must be posted in the game chat in English or in a language that all opponents understand. Diplomacy includes, but is not limited to: proposing truces, negotiating alliances, and coordinating assaults. Secret diplomacy can be hard to prove, but if you suspect it you should leave the players in question appropriate ratings. If you feel certain about players engaging in secret diplomacy consider reporting them in the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum by posting a new topic.

None of this was secret and it was all in game chat. How is this cheating? Eddie, 3002 posts? really ? Don't you get tired of this? Was my criticism really that egregious? I think it was constructive criticism but a few of you have nothing better to do and can't take criticism. I realize this thread will go on ad nauseam but figured I should respond to your accusation. Post a formal complaint if you think I've broken the rules. If I get warned it probably has more to do with the fact that your moderator friends are bitter about my criticism than having anything to do with rules. Get outside, go for a run, live life a little...maybe when you're an old man - maybe you can say you did something other than post on cc.

eddie2 wrote:well visgoths what can i say i just read the game chat of the game in ?..

no. 1
revealing of positions and troup count in a fog game is seriously frowned upon, some also class it as cheating....
Game 10582259
2012-03-02 19:14:20 - visgoths: im afraid it might be too late.
2012-03-03 23:46:12 - visgoths: Green, pink has 3 on bitlis and 6 on erzurum.

2012-03-06 23:51:07 - visgoths: alright, I landed on British Kuwait. Hope I can hold it. he's got 30 on jersualem

no. 2
mo since no formal truce was made in game chat by you and the player in ? you could say it looks like you were involved in s/d.. it even looks like the 2 of you could of attacked what was said in the pm, but since fog that wont be seen till end of game. and by your reaction i think the mods should do to you as you want done to others if the log shows that attack.

by **TheForgivenOne** on Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:48 am

Seriously? What do you expect us to do? Outright ban people off the site for something like this? If we did that, this site would be MUCH smaller than it is. Kicking the person out of 1 is going overboard. There are naive people here that probably didn't read the rules when they joined, and this would also cause a bigger workload for our Administrators (we only have 3), as they are the only ones with powers to do such a thing. They have a big enough workload as it is, they don't need it any bigger. It could also outright make another player lose a game because of it. Example- Player X,Y,Z are left. Player X is leading it, and player Y, relatively new, posts on Z's wall to help weaken him. Suddenly, he's kicked out of the game, and player X has an easier path to victory. Many people in this thread have explained to you how our escalating punishment works. First SD= a warning, second time = 1 week website ban, third time = 1 month, fourth = permaban.

If you clearly think this isn't harsh enough as it is, as people have said, make a Suggestion in the Suggestions forum. I happen to moderate that area. If it garners enough support, I can submit it towards the Webmaster, and he can contemplate whether he wants to implement it or not.

You also have to consider team games (mainly 2v2v2v2). Should the whole team be kicked out, even though only one person asked for the Diplomacy secretly? If not, it also creates Consequences in the game itself, as his partner now receives all of his territories and spoils.

by **visgoths** on Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:22 am

Forgivenone, your point is well taken. I appreciate the work you all do. When I posted my criticism I did not realize there was a protocol for enforcement. Understanding this now my criticism should have been directed to the enforcement punishment and not the moderator since I felt a warning was weak for someone clearly caught for cheating.

by **jimdugan8** on Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:09 pm

Not sure if this has ever been brought up about this player, but I'm in a game with a guy who plays two account. coolbean04 and cindykat are at best two peole engaging in secret diplomacy, at worst he/she is using two accounts. Every game coolbean04 plays cindykat is also in, every game coolbean04 wins he's taken cindykat out last, and every game cindykat gets a bonus and just stacks, eventually just protecting coolbean04's rearguard. Dude's got rank they don't deserve.

by **Night Strike** on Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:24 pm

jimdugan8 wrote:Not sure if this has ever been brought up about this player, but I'm in a game with a guy who plays two account. coolbean04 and cindykat are at best two peole engaging in secret diplomacy, at worst he/she is using two accounts. Every game coolbean04 plays cindykat is also in, every game coolbean04 wins he's taken cindykat out last, and every game cindykat gets a bonus and just stacks, eventually just protecting coolbean04's rearguard. Dude's got rank they don't deserve.

Then head over to the Cheating & Abuse forum and make a report.

by **jimdugan8** on Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:59 pm

Isn't that what this is?

by **Dukasaur** on Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:51 pm

jimdugan8 wrote:Isn't that what this is?

No, this is just a thread asking some peripheral questions about cheating and abuse.

The actual forum for making reports is:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=5