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Postby Sir-X on Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:48 am

I was wondering if there will be another map on Battle Royale.

i have played a few large maps that would be great fun to have lots of players in. E.g. World 2.1, Fractured China. and i saw a map call New World Americas... why is there no other map choice? the one thats chosen looks real confusing.

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Re: Battle Royale

Postby SirSebstar on Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:50 am

The battle royal map was specially created to forgo such epic games as where everybody got nuked who took their turn(this really happened). It was made to give everybody 2 spot on a map so suiciders have less chance of killing high rankers (less, not none) it is unknown to me if there is a new map underway, but it does not look like something will appear on short notice.
a regular map does not give 2 starting locations, nor does it ensure these are not right side by side.
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Re: Battle Royale

Postby Sir-X on Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:34 pm

ok thanks for answering my question.
i will give it ago one day... most likely if i become premium.

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Re: Battle Royale

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:14 pm

SirSebstar wrote:The battle royal map was specially created to forgo such epic games as where everybody got nuked who took their turn(this really happened). It was made to give everybody 2 spot on a map so suiciders have less chance of killing high rankers (less, not none) it is unknown to me if there is a new map underway, but it does not look like something will appear on short notice.
a regular map does not give 2 starting locations, nor does it ensure these are not right side by side.


So there is magical pony that says you can't get 2 starting locations on World 2.1? Or, instead of 42 players on Classic, we couldn't have 21. Curious.

EDIT: Also, apparently there is a law that makes it criminal to have non-Terminator Battle Royale Games? Otherwise that would be a pretty good solution.
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Re: Battle Royale

Postby blakebowling on Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:36 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
SirSebstar wrote:The battle royal map was specially created to forgo such epic games as where everybody got nuked who took their turn(this really happened). It was made to give everybody 2 spot on a map so suiciders have less chance of killing high rankers (less, not none) it is unknown to me if there is a new map underway, but it does not look like something will appear on short notice.
a regular map does not give 2 starting locations, nor does it ensure these are not right side by side.


So there is magical pony that says you can't get 2 starting locations on World 2.1? Or, instead of 42 players on Classic, we couldn't have 21. Curious.

EDIT: Also, apparently there is a law that makes it criminal to have non-Terminator Battle Royale Games? Otherwise that would be a pretty good solution.

The first is possible, and hopefully something El Jefe is able to be talked into looking at. Non-Terminator BR's have traditionally been avoided, because the winner gets a ton of points. IMO, scoring for BR's could be changed to prevent this. I'd just like to see more maps opened first.
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Re: Battle Royale

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:33 pm

blakebowling wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
SirSebstar wrote:The battle royal map was specially created to forgo such epic games as where everybody got nuked who took their turn(this really happened). It was made to give everybody 2 spot on a map so suiciders have less chance of killing high rankers (less, not none) it is unknown to me if there is a new map underway, but it does not look like something will appear on short notice.
a regular map does not give 2 starting locations, nor does it ensure these are not right side by side.


So there is magical pony that says you can't get 2 starting locations on World 2.1? Or, instead of 42 players on Classic, we couldn't have 21. Curious.

EDIT: Also, apparently there is a law that makes it criminal to have non-Terminator Battle Royale Games? Otherwise that would be a pretty good solution.

The first is possible, and hopefully something El Jefe is able to be talked into looking at. Non-Terminator BR's have traditionally been avoided, because the winner gets a ton of points. IMO, scoring for BR's could be changed to prevent this. I'd just like to see more maps opened first.


What's wrong with the winner getting a ton of points?
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Re: Battle Royale

Postby SirSebstar on Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:34 pm

getting to conqueror based on one game.... there are lots of things wrong with that, but ill leave it there....
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Re: Battle Royale

Postby Barns on Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:25 am

But it would be a hell of a struggle and an epic "Battle Royale" for the winner if the game didn't have a turn limit...although that could mean it went on for even longer than it does now of course...but still fun to have it in your list of Active Games...
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Re: Battle Royale

Postby SirSebstar on Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:52 am

Barns wrote:But it would be a hell of a struggle and an epic "Battle Royale" for the winner if the game didn't have a turn limit...although that could mean it went on for even longer than it does now of course...but still fun to have it in your list of Active Games...

Game 11603837has no turnlimit and yes, its in my list of active games for a while now....
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Re: Battle Royale

Postby sniffie on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:46 am

Game 1000001 also a BR is currently in Round 2439
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Re: Battle Royale

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:36 am

SirSebstar wrote:getting to conqueror based on one game.... there are lots of things wrong with that, but ill leave it there....

I've heard this said before, but it's still just as wrong as the first time I heard it.

Beating 51 people @ an average of 20 points each wouldn't make anyone Conqueror, unless they were already close to that rank.

1020 points would make me just barely a colonel. Barely.

It would make a Major out of a Private First Class. Big deal.

It would make a Major into a borderline Brigadier, as happened with QoH when he won his great Battle Royale. That's probably the biggest gain possible.

A Field Marshall would probably make Conqeror if he won a BR, but he wouldn't be scoring 20 points per opponent. He'd probably be scoring 6 or 7 points per opponent, and would probably rise from 4600 points to about 4900 or 4950. So why shouldn't he? It's a big accomplishment to win a BR, and 350 points is not exactly life changing.

I'm told that it did happen, once upon a time in the early days of CC, that a player rose to Conqueror on the strength of a BR win. Once.... and that was before the 100-point limit. It's very misleading to frighten people with this buggaboo that Standard BR's are going to destabilize the scoreboard. It just isn't true.
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Re: Battle Royale

Postby SirSebstar on Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:08 am

Duka,
let us assume a cook will win, just to entertain the idea.
The current leaderboard gives 4741 as the pointscore for the (two) highest players.
52 players, lets say you need 4000 points to win, thats about 80 per player.
assuming you have a 700 ranking due to lots of doodle ass freestyles (which you suck at, like me...) then i still need to win against an average player rank of 2800 points. Highly unlikely, just as you said.
equally unlikely as me winning a br.
but the problem is, someone WILL win the br eventually. and that person will get a win boost of 52 times the average pointrank / his own x 20= lots of points.

ofcourse if i intentionally would risk more and more points so just happen to end with a lower pointscore, then convevebly i could end up with a fair boost to my score.
i can cry wolf on the outside chance, but i do recognize its...hopefully rare.
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Re: Battle Royale

Postby Sir-X on Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:28 pm

i never thought this topic would get anyone writing on it... i had completely forgotten about it.. :D
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