I wondered why you guys finally broke down and let me move up... Karel, do you get any kind of errors or messages when FF shuts down? We should be able to figure out what is happening with some more info. As to SeaMonkey, I am not sure if BOB works with it or not. I know most things work on Chrome but it takes some fiddling around with the settings to make it happen. We can take this offline to email if you want or we can run up our forum posting and do it here.