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Game Page Layout - new proposal! [First Post]

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:40 pm
by lackattack
UPDATE:

Based on your feedback - I think this proposed layout should satisfy everyone. We put a basic player listing to the side of the map (like before the update, minus rank and rating) and print full statistics below the action panel. This will eliminate horizontal scrolling, while letting you immediately see who is who (and with how many cards) upon entering the game. Please vote to let me know what you think.

Proposed layout:
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We just added game stats to the the players list on the right of the map. It means some people will have to scroll horizontally to see them, which is a shame. But we don't want vertical scrolling for each attack right? Considering that even small maps are quite large these days, and we still have many users on 1024x768 resolution, getting a good layout is tricky.

Should the player listing & stats be above the map or below instead? Or is there a completely different solution?

I'd love to hear what you think.

Note: this topic is intended for layout discussion. To discuss the update in general, please do so in the announcement. Thanks :P

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:42 pm
by The Neon Peon
I think we should have a poll as to who uses what resolution. Perhaps only very few use something that small.

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:50 pm
by Woodruff
The Neon Peon wrote:I think we should have a poll as to who uses what resolution. Perhaps only very few use something that small.


A poll is ok, but that would only hit up us forum-goers...which is a small minority of the site.

For what it's worth, I use 1280x1024.

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:54 pm
by The Neon Peon
Woodruff wrote:
The Neon Peon wrote:I think we should have a poll as to who uses what resolution. Perhaps only very few use something that small.


A poll is ok, but that would only hit up us forum-goers...which is a small minority of the site.

For what it's worth, I use 1280x1024.


Perhaps then, we could have a message at the top of the "My games page" that asks: "Is the width of your monitor larger than 1020 pixels?"
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Edit: nevermind... our current update just changed all that.

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:55 pm
by Serbia
Is this mostly for users who don't use BOB? Because as a BOB user, I already have all that information. I also think that if you're going to have it, it should be on the bottom.

Also, there are major issues now that you've changed it - the timers are screwed up, the turn notifier icons are screwed up... kinks.

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:57 pm
by the.killing.44
It's fine for me.

Just bullet points on the My Games tab? Ew! That's terrible, change it back! :?

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:57 pm
by obliterationX
Make it an option from the Game Settings menu? ;)

Game Page stats "right of the map"; "below the map"; or "off"?

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:59 pm
by Tisha
It works really well below the map with BOB.

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:00 pm
by Incandenza
I like the very brief stats on the side, it fills up the dead space and gives a bit of information at a glance.

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:01 pm
by skigemit
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:01 pm
by AR
Scrolling horizontal is extremely (which I have to do now) more annoying than scrolling vertically. Please change it back or make an option to make it not scroll horizontal. Or give the spoils first (only place I can see with 1024x768), that's the only important thing.

And why can't I see who'se turn it is in the main page? That's too usefull to miss.

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:05 pm
by Hamanu
I prefer vertical scrolling to horizontal.

And please restore the turn order marker.

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:18 pm
by AR
But the horizontal scrolling is still very annoying. Please make it optional.

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:25 pm
by Incandenza
Hmmmm, after looking at it a bit, might be better if troops were listed before regions. It'll sound silly, but that's the order I've been reading them in on BOB all these years. :D

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:33 pm
by targetman377
i also like vertical compaired with horazontial

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:47 pm
by lokisgal
Awful

total confilict with bob - Cant tell whos turn it is by looking at my game list nor how long til the turn expires
Even when I go to an individual map I get a strobe effect of NaNhrs:Nhmins then a flash to the amount of time
Looks like someone took some bad drugs :shock:

Anyway it obviously conflicts with bob in some way can you shut it off please till there is a BOB patch or you reslove this issue

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:51 pm
by sherkaner
lokisgal wrote:Awful

total confilict with bob - Cant tell whos turn it is by looking at my game list nor how long til the turn expires
Even when I go to an individual map I get a strobe effect of NaNhrs:Nhmins then a flash to the amount of time
Looks like someone took some bad drugs :shock:

Anyway it obviously conflicts with bob in some way can you shut it off please till there is a BOB patch or you reslove this issue

There is an update, the menu option might not be flashing and red though. But updating would solve this.

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:56 pm
by lokisgal
ok that fixed it

still see no need for this....

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:56 pm
by hwhrhett
updating bob fixed all the issues for me. :-) nice update lack..

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:06 pm
by Robinette
lackattack wrote:We just added game stats to the the players list on the right of the map. It means some people will have to scroll horizontally to see them, which is a shame. But we don't want vertical scrolling for each attack right?

For each attack? :-s
Well... maybe that's necessary for some maps or game types, but i think it's fine even if it's out of view...


lackattack wrote:Considering that even small maps are quite large these days, and we still have many users on 1024x768 resolution, getting a good layout is tricky.

it's fitting fine on my MacBook,,, but i think a pole could be beneficial as it would be a good sampling... unless you think that most forum goers have bigger monitors to compensate for their smaller [mod edit]... :P


lackattack wrote:Should the player listing & stats be above the map or below instead? Or is there a completely different solution?

The biggest annoyance for me is when the screen jumps following an attack on a bigger map, perhaps this could be eliminated by putting the attack button ABOVE the map? I dunno, i mostly play classic on the small map display, so this really doesn't effect me much.

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:09 pm
by the.killing.44
Obviously this is for the majority of CC who do not have BOB…

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:14 pm
by Batmanette
Hey Lack,

eliminated players are still showing as receiving 3 armies.






it will be interesting to see how this info changes some players strategies.
some for the better,
some for the worse.

and no change for the rest of us who already thought thru the strategy.

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:14 pm
by Evil DIMwit
Hamanu wrote:I prefer vertical scrolling to horizontal.


Thirded. If the stats must be there, let them be above or below the map, not to the right of it.

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:19 pm
by Serbia
lokisgal wrote:ok that fixed it

still see no need for this....


Why was my post saying that I don't like it deleted, and yet this one remains?
And while we're at it, why are ANY negative feedback posts deleted? Don't you want feedback? Things like that tick me off more than anything else on this site.

Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:23 pm
by The Neon Peon
Serbia wrote:
lokisgal wrote:ok that fixed it

still see no need for this....


Why was my post saying that I don't like it deleted, and yet this one remains?
And while we're at it, why are ANY negative feedback posts deleted? Don't you want feedback? Things like that tick me off more than anything else on this site.

Part of the discussion was merged into the announcement thread.

Geez. Just because you can;t find your post, you automatically assume the mods deleted it because it said something they did not like?