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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby lokisgal on Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:47 pm

Awful

total confilict with bob - Cant tell whos turn it is by looking at my game list nor how long til the turn expires
Even when I go to an individual map I get a strobe effect of NaNhrs:Nhmins then a flash to the amount of time
Looks like someone took some bad drugs :shock:

Anyway it obviously conflicts with bob in some way can you shut it off please till there is a BOB patch or you reslove this issue
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby sherkaner on Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:51 pm

lokisgal wrote:Awful

total confilict with bob - Cant tell whos turn it is by looking at my game list nor how long til the turn expires
Even when I go to an individual map I get a strobe effect of NaNhrs:Nhmins then a flash to the amount of time
Looks like someone took some bad drugs :shock:

Anyway it obviously conflicts with bob in some way can you shut it off please till there is a BOB patch or you reslove this issue

There is an update, the menu option might not be flashing and red though. But updating would solve this.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby lokisgal on Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:56 pm

ok that fixed it

still see no need for this....
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby hwhrhett on Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:56 pm

updating bob fixed all the issues for me. :-) nice update lack..
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby Robinette on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:06 pm

lackattack wrote:We just added game stats to the the players list on the right of the map. It means some people will have to scroll horizontally to see them, which is a shame. But we don't want vertical scrolling for each attack right?

For each attack? :-s
Well... maybe that's necessary for some maps or game types, but i think it's fine even if it's out of view...


lackattack wrote:Considering that even small maps are quite large these days, and we still have many users on 1024x768 resolution, getting a good layout is tricky.

it's fitting fine on my MacBook,,, but i think a pole could be beneficial as it would be a good sampling... unless you think that most forum goers have bigger monitors to compensate for their smaller [mod edit]... :P


lackattack wrote:Should the player listing & stats be above the map or below instead? Or is there a completely different solution?

The biggest annoyance for me is when the screen jumps following an attack on a bigger map, perhaps this could be eliminated by putting the attack button ABOVE the map? I dunno, i mostly play classic on the small map display, so this really doesn't effect me much.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:09 pm

Obviously this is for the majority of CC who do not have BOB…
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby Batmanette on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:14 pm

Hey Lack,

eliminated players are still showing as receiving 3 armies.






it will be interesting to see how this info changes some players strategies.
some for the better,
some for the worse.

and no change for the rest of us who already thought thru the strategy.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby Evil DIMwit on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:14 pm

Hamanu wrote:I prefer vertical scrolling to horizontal.


Thirded. If the stats must be there, let them be above or below the map, not to the right of it.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby Serbia on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:19 pm

lokisgal wrote:ok that fixed it

still see no need for this....


Why was my post saying that I don't like it deleted, and yet this one remains?
And while we're at it, why are ANY negative feedback posts deleted? Don't you want feedback? Things like that tick me off more than anything else on this site.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby The Neon Peon on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:23 pm

Serbia wrote:
lokisgal wrote:ok that fixed it

still see no need for this....


Why was my post saying that I don't like it deleted, and yet this one remains?
And while we're at it, why are ANY negative feedback posts deleted? Don't you want feedback? Things like that tick me off more than anything else on this site.

Part of the discussion was merged into the announcement thread.

Geez. Just because you can;t find your post, you automatically assume the mods deleted it because it said something they did not like?
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby Serbia on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:27 pm

The Neon Peon wrote:
Serbia wrote:
lokisgal wrote:ok that fixed it

still see no need for this....


Why was my post saying that I don't like it deleted, and yet this one remains?
And while we're at it, why are ANY negative feedback posts deleted? Don't you want feedback? Things like that tick me off more than anything else on this site.

Part of the discussion was merged into the announcement thread.

Geez. Just because you can;t find your post, you automatically assume the mods deleted it because it said something they did not like?


:oops: Sorry, offense withdrawn.

I have had that happen to me before, so I was quick to whine again. Without cause this time. My apologies.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby lord voldemort on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:40 pm

I'd like to have an option to turn it off all together. Its annoying and in the way. And i prefer to use bob
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby lgoasklucyl on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:48 pm

lord voldemort wrote:I'd like to have an option to turn it off all together. Its annoying and in the way. And i prefer to use bob


I agree with this entirely.

This is what it looks like at 1440x900:
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Vs. the BOB stats table on the same settings:
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The BOB layout looks so much nicer. If people are vying for the 'but you have to manually install BOB' argument, just follow the lead of that table. It's perfectly ordered in order of (at least what I feel) is relevant (spoils then troops then territs). Spoils having been moved to the back of the table (in the newly enacted version) just doesn't feel right... at all. One could argue that regions are more important than troops in the log, but spoils simply need to be first IMO.

Otherwise, it is a pretty solid addition. With the BOB table, however, it's pretty useless and unattractive.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby Scott-Land on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:56 pm

Hmm, can no longer highlight Team 2 to see which territories are occupied. Still works for Team 1 so I'm assuming it's a bug?
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby Optimus Prime on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:21 pm

I do a lot of reading about web development, and while in the past vertical scrolling, or "beyond the 'fold'" as it used to be called was to be avoided, a large majority of internet users say now that they don't mind some minor scrolling to get to information they deem useful. I'm pretty sure you could put ALL of the information currently held to the right side of the map down below and would see little to no complaint about the location.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:22 pm

lgoasklucyl wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:I'd like to have an option to turn it off all together. Its annoying and in the way. And i prefer to use bob


I agree with this entirely.

This is what it looks like at 1440x900:
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NAGEROUS! OH NO! HANG IN THERE, BUDDY!


OTher than that, the layout looks sexy, and now people without BOB can revel in a little of the BOB-users advantages.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby The Neon Peon on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:16 pm

I fail to understand how it's annoying. No one is forcing you to scroll sideways to see it. No one is forcing you to use it either. You can just scroll down and use BOB like always.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby lokisgal on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:18 pm

i dont scroll sideways to see it - its right there in my face!
Id prefer this is an option it does what BOB already does anyway
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby soundman on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:21 pm

Batmanette wrote:Hey Lack,

eliminated players are still showing as receiving 3 armies.

Yeah I noticed that, and didn't like it.

My only suggestion is to move the spoils back to where they were originally. Cards are important (Especially in escalating games) and should be easily seen without scrolling. It's also a little difficult to match the players to the spoils in the current format.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby nagerous on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:29 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
lgoasklucyl wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:I'd like to have an option to turn it off all together. Its annoying and in the way. And i prefer to use bob


I agree with this entirely.

This is what it looks like at 1440x900:
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NAGEROUS! OH NO! HANG IN THERE, BUDDY!


OTher than that, the layout looks sexy, and now people without BOB can revel in a little of the BOB-users advantages.


It looks like I'm pretty screwed.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby Army of GOD on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:39 pm

nagerous wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
lgoasklucyl wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:I'd like to have an option to turn it off all together. Its annoying and in the way. And i prefer to use bob


I agree with this entirely.

This is what it looks like at 1440x900:
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NAGEROUS! OH NO! HANG IN THERE, BUDDY!


OTher than that, the layout looks sexy, and now people without BOB can revel in a little of the BOB-users advantages.


It looks like I'm pretty screwed.


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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby Blitzaholic on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:47 pm

I personally liked it the way it was, this new update causes my screen to bounce up and down every time I take a turn.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby keyborn on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:51 pm

Why even change the spoils or card indicators that we have been using for years now? The only thing this change would accomplish, especially by putting them on the end of your new horizontal info table, is to make everyone have to scroll further to the right to see them. Vertical scrolling is far better than horizontal.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby Georgerx7di on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:02 pm

lackattack wrote:We just added game stats to the the players list on the right of the map. It means some people will have to scroll horizontally to see them, which is a shame. But we don't want vertical scrolling for each attack right? Considering that even small maps are quite large these days, and we still have many users on 1024x768 resolution, getting a good layout is tricky.

Should the player listing & stats be above the map or below instead? Or is there a completely different solution?

I'd love to hear what you think.


Below I think is better. Many of us use bob, and that is where bob puts it, so we are used to seeing it there. Also, for those who don't like change, it wouldn't disrupt what you see when you first open the page. I would rather see the map when I first open the game, and then have the choice to scroll down to the stats if that is something that I want to look at.
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Re: Game Page Layout Discussion

Postby Optimus Prime on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:17 pm

lokisgal wrote:i dont scroll sideways to see it - its right there in my face!
Id prefer this is an option it does what BOB already does anyway

That's the point. It does what BOB does. Anyone using Internet Explorer did not have the option of using BOB and lackattack wanted to make the statistics used by Firefox users available to those who use other browsers. It's a fair thing to do since there are so many people who use BOB already. It makes sense to provide that information to everyone, not just the people who choose to use a particular browser.

If you want to use BOB nobody is going to stop you, you can scroll down, use BOB and no harm is done. After you've played your turns for the next few days using BOB instead of the new information to the right of the map you aren't going to care that it is there, I can almost guarantee it.
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