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Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:44 pm
by nippersean
I preferred the compromise suggestion for the plane bonuses that were suggested in the original thread, and mentioned again here. Something like +1 for 2, +2 for 3.

I've not played either that much but I think it's nearly great.
The first one did get very lopsided drops.
The second one is...well...not as exciting to play. The planes are virtually worthless and the AA's are the way to go from what I've seen.

The bonus for the planes went from +3 for 2, to nothing until you hold 4 (then +3). Which seems a massive tweak.

I'm surprised a compromise can't still be tried. I guess it depends on whether you're a singles player or a trips / quads player to have a strong opinion. I guess the first one had a more fun element and in a sense "realism" in that the planes are a very strong and important element of the map.
So after careful consideration, I've abstained and added to the "viewed not voted" stats.

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:17 pm
by briggs1209
I never played the original version but have played the new one. I found playing the map on fog made it a bit quick to end both times round. Like the concept and the style , planes being able to attack different groups would shake things up a bit

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:44 pm
by MrBenn
It looks like it's still broadly a 60:40 split in favour of reverting to the original map version :-k

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:53 am
by alster
MrBenn wrote:It looks like it's still broadly a 60:40 split in favour of reverting to the original map version :-k


It's easy to click in a poll. I'd review the comments where people bother to put down their thoughts when making up my mind.

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:22 am
by olkok
I prefer the old map. Much more fun.

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:35 am
by ltiyank
I prefer the original but only because I did quite well on it.

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:23 am
by Knight2254
Go back to the old map.

Right now the AA guns WAY too valuable. It's difficult to get a bonus aside from the AA guns so whoever gets those simply reinforce those every turn and are able to shoot down enough planes to eliminate the plane bonuses.

If we do anything I think we should go back to the previous map or perhaps reduce the bonuses -- Something like +1 for 2, +2 for 3, +3 for 3. This would allow you, if you did not get the AA bonuses (then you're probably loaded with planes), to have a fighting chance.

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:03 am
by Pantheon
Go back to the original please.
It was much more fun and interesting. The current map lacks any authenticity or excitement; I don't even play it anymore.

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:18 pm
by mrbang
I vote for the original version =D>
So what if it's not a great 1v1 map? there are any number of maps that can be awful as 1v1 but great for 4 or more.
Please, a great exciting map has been gutted.

Give :!: us :!: back :!: our :!: sneak :!: attack!!!


mrbang

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:29 am
by Keredrex
Knight2254 wrote:If we do anything I think we should go back to the previous map or perhaps reduce the bonuses -- Something like +1 for 2, +2 for 3, +3 for 3. This would allow you, if you did not get the AA bonuses (then you're probably loaded with planes), to have a fighting chance.


It seems there are msany who would like the old map back.. or even better the compromise as metnioned above... I also stopped playing this map until the decision is finalized.

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:28 pm
by Robinette
MrBenn wrote:It looks like it's still broadly a 60:40 split in favour of reverting to the original map version :-k


and nearly 1600 others who visited without voting ;) :P

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:21 pm
by Uncle Death
I had more fun in the original and like it. I don't like it anymore.

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:51 pm
by PLAYER57832
I just started playing the new version in 1 vs 1. Honestly, I cannot see all that much difference. Just put it back the way it was.

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:05 pm
by Timminz
Old map please.

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:59 pm
by AtreidesHouse
PLAYER57832 wrote:I just started playing the new version in 1 vs 1. Honestly, I cannot see all that much difference. Just put it back the way it was.



Being as I have played this map (both versions) almost 1000 times, I agree that there wasn't that big of a difference between the versions, although I like the revamp a little better as it is a little more challenging, albeit not in 1v1 because the drop determines that almost 80% of the time. To suggest a little tweak, open up one more access to Ford Island because I find that is pretty easy to hold and fortify (depends on fortifications and cards of course) and say making it accesible from California or Swan would factor in a lot of different variables.

:|

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:19 pm
by BoganGod
The original was cool. Revamp = bland.

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 8:33 pm
by AtreidesHouse
Where is this map at? I'm waiting to host a 1000th game on this map for a few friends here on CC and they too are waiting for this.

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 8:35 pm
by AtreidesHouse
AtreidesHouse wrote:Where is this map at? I'm waiting to host a 1000th game on this map for a few friends here on CC and they too are waiting for this.



Only 25 to go

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:57 am
by MrBenn
Once the new (or old?) files have been uploaded, the map will be back for action ;-)

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:50 am
by AtreidesHouse
Still waiting

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:59 am
by -Maximus-
Do we not remember what happened at Pearl Harbor? :(

Lets keep it true with the old map.

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:36 pm
by AtreidesHouse
Woo Hoo! Back up! =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:13 pm
by MrBenn
AtreidesHouse wrote:Woo Hoo! Back up! =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

I was about to post something similar ;-)

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:26 pm
by Robinette
MrBenn wrote:
AtreidesHouse wrote:Woo Hoo! Back up! =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

I was about to post something similar ;-)



I don't understand...

do you mean to say that the original gameplay is back?

that would be cool... i didn't discover this map till after it was changed, i've really been wanting to try the original version with more focus on the planes...



it's all part of my WILD experimentation into some unconventional games... aka: non classic ;)

Re: Pearl Harbor: Twist or Stick?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:41 pm
by Vace Cooper
just lost a match on the drop on pearl harbor. i was under the impression that it was fixed. kind of sucks when your opponents drop bonuses that give them 15 and 12 troops on there initial turns and you and your partner drop to receive 4 each. no way you can come back from that. done with the map.