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In Team Games, should you only be able to invite others as Teammates, removing all Opponent invites?

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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby L M S on Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:04 pm

Now that TO's and clan leaders have expanded privileges why do we need the invite system for public games at all? For private games just PM the password. The big stumbling block was clan wars...that problem has been solved.
I for one, would like to see the public games go back to the old way before invites were available, we all got along fine and our 'regular' teams still found a way to play together then and they will again...bring back the open competition it fostered.

Locks only keep out honest people.
The cheaters and abusers will find a way no matter what, at the very least we should make that kind of mentality/modus operandi as "inconvenient" as possible.
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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby Landain on Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:12 pm

I like the current invitation system. Leave it alone. Anyone who doesn't want to accept an invitation has the right to decline.
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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby Robespierre__ on Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:21 pm

Robitussin is legal but you can abuse it. People can follow the letter of the law but not the spirit. That said, it seems to me that limiting it only in public games makes sense to me.

Also, it would be nice if you join a game and invite a friend, if the friend fails to join in 24 hours, that you are also kicked out of the game. That way you are not stuck playing with some random person when you did not intend to do so.
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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby jmyork82 on Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:48 pm

what happens when you want to to play against a specific team. why cant team 1 invite team 2 to play against them?
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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby stahrgazer on Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:37 pm

Dako wrote:How can abuse be legal? It doesn't make sense.


They're calling it abuse, but so far, I've seen no disciplinary actions taken against people who invite anyone other than new recruits, consistently, to games (team or otherwise)... so if inviting people to games is abuse, but it's not being punished, then it's "legal abuse".

If it's legal, don't change it. If it's not legal, punish it.

Either eay, leave the invite system as is, rather than punish 'non abusers' by making invites harder.
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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby danfrank on Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:08 pm

I am curious as to how this affects any one of us ? i can honestly careless if a person farms , invites cooks and ? marks to there games and so forth and so on. Its none of my business. The invited does not have to except the invitation :-s


I voted no.. Deadlocked at 37 .. It seems the issue doesnt have enough support either way..


On a positive note and way off topic.. I have to say i love these dancing blue dude and would like to THANK whoever created him .. =D> :P


:lol: :lol:

And 1 more thing nothing is perfect on this site , from the erratic dice, to the seriously flawed rating system to the scoring system ( some say ) . Were here to have fun,the maps and the connectivity for speed games are unmatched by imitators. Why worry about who is inviting who. There is always going to be someone who tries to exploit the system no matter what is put in place..
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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby danfrank on Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:10 pm

morleyjoe wrote:
Gold Knight wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
Dako wrote:Yes, I think public games should be limited to invites at your own team only.

Private is ok I think.


Keep in mind, and make sure to read carefully, this is for both public and private---all Opponent Invitations (Tournaments, Non-Team Games, etc excluded).


--Andy


Why cant it be made for just public? A private game should be able to invite whoever, as they made it with the intention of inviting the players one would think. I think the public games are the only ones being absued as far as ive seen.

I agree basically with what Dako said.


I agree with Dako and Gold Knight - private games should remain as they are, public can be changed to stop any abuse there.



A private game can still be abused by PMing a password before the invite... :roll:
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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby Nephilim on Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:16 pm

i like the current system. i don't think the vast majority of legitimate players should have to suffer because of a few assholes. plus, as someone has mentioned, if those being "invite-farmed" don't wanna join, they don't have to. you can't cure stupid...

bottom line, i really don't care if some jerks get their points in unethical ways. they are jerks, that's what they do. don't mess with my gameplay experience over it!

unless, of course, you really think this is a business decision and that "invite-farming" is driving away potential long-term customers. THAT'S what you really need to determine, and none of our opinions matter on that score!

(if you have to do something, i agree with dako: leave private invites as they are, it is nice and convenient. trash the public invites only)

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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:41 am

jmyork82 wrote:what happens when you want to to play against a specific team. why cant team 1 invite team 2 to play against them?



Make a private game and send them the game number and password. Gives them more than 24 hours to except, and also keeps anybody else from joining. Works out simple.
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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:42 am

morleyjoe wrote:
Gold Knight wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
Dako wrote:Yes, I think public games should be limited to invites at your own team only.

Private is ok I think.


Keep in mind, and make sure to read carefully, this is for both public and private---all Opponent Invitations (Tournaments, Non-Team Games, etc excluded).


--Andy


Why cant it be made for just public? A private game should be able to invite whoever, as they made it with the intention of inviting the players one would think. I think the public games are the only ones being absued as far as ive seen.

I agree basically with what Dako said.


I agree with Dako and Gold Knight - private games should remain as they are, public can be changed to stop any abuse there.



If we were to make it so private games are not the same as public games the abusers would just make them private and invite people till they fill up.
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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:48 am

Nephilim wrote:unless, of course, you really think this is a business decision and that "invite-farming" is driving away potential long-term customers. THAT'S what you really need to determine, and none of our opinions matter on that score!



This is the main reason farming was put to an end as far as ?'s go. This is same reason this is being looked into. A few bad apples can spoil a whole bunch of apples. I too wish we did not have to deal with this, but the bottom line is $$$. Anything that can be used to try and keep some of that money from leaving will be tried.
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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby Dako on Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:58 am

Bruceswar wrote:
morleyjoe wrote:
Gold Knight wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
Dako wrote:Yes, I think public games should be limited to invites at your own team only.

Private is ok I think.


Keep in mind, and make sure to read carefully, this is for both public and private---all Opponent Invitations (Tournaments, Non-Team Games, etc excluded).


--Andy


Why cant it be made for just public? A private game should be able to invite whoever, as they made it with the intention of inviting the players one would think. I think the public games are the only ones being absued as far as ive seen.

I agree basically with what Dako said.


I agree with Dako and Gold Knight - private games should remain as they are, public can be changed to stop any abuse there.



If we were to make it so private games are not the same as public games the abusers would just make them private and invite people till they fill up.

But in private games you cannot wait for other to join and sending random invites will barely fill your game.
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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby Frankly, my dear on Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:00 am

I GOT A KEY BY THE THREE WHEN CHIRP SHORTY CHIRP BACK!!
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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby zeractal on Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:35 am

I would have thought that if you wanted to set up a game (amongst friends) it would be no harder setting up a private game and telling the other players via private messages then inviting them all, especially since you would all have to agree to the map and settings before its set up so ultimately just have to 'reply' to the previous pm once with the correct game number and password for them to join.
This also means if someone drops out or doesn't join in 24hours a stranger can't join by mistake.
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Re: [Feedback] Invitations, Abuse, Changes and Possible Chan

Postby ganguscalm on Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:39 am

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