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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby RADAGA on Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:19 pm

EXTRA EXTRA, explain that> Game 5875491, round 66, I just attacked 4 lands with one on each.

every one of the attacks was preceeded by TWO losses.

So, attack-loose, attack-loose, attack-win , NEXT attack-loose, attack-loose, attack-win , NEXT attack-loose, attack-loose, attack-win , NEXT attack-loose, attack-loose, attack-win , NEXT! just like that....

WEIRD pattern, indeed. Wonder why....
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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby SuicidalSnowman on Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:30 pm

Yesterday, I took 5 men through one 9 stack, then two more single territories :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/

But then I had a 9v2, clicked twice and lost 4 men. I might have kept losing, or I might have started winning, but I looked ahead to the big picture, the overall game, and stopped clicking.

Actually Radaga, to be serious for a moment, what are the odds of me getting that first set of rolls.
9v5= I win 3 v 2
7v5= I win 3 v 2
5v5= I win 3 v 2
3v5= I win 3 v 2
1v5= I win 3 v 1
Then it was
1v4= I win 3 v 1
Then it was
1v3= I win 2 v 1
Then it was
1v2= I lost 1 v 1

If you figure 6 6's in a row is 1/50,000 (is that even true?) then my dice have to be astronomically good! Like, RNG orgasm good!
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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby RADAGA on Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:24 am

Well, six sixes is "roughtly" 1 / 6^6 = 1/46.656

Chance of a double kill on a 3x2 is +/-32%, again, roughtly to win 5 in a row would be 1/3^5 = one in 243 times

As for me, again, same game, round 67, getting back the same 4 lands, I had 1loss/1 win on each. 50%-50% - again a ridiculous probability....
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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby RADAGA on Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:45 am

best of the month: Advice from a member about dice>

2010-01-19 23:08:15 - RRSGenl: dice are really random.
2010-01-19 23:08:38 - RRSGenl: U need to play conservatively till you know dice are on your side
2010-01-19 23:08:53 - RRSGenl: Then go crazy till the trend shifts back
2010-01-19 23:09:13 - RRSGenl: Then go easy again till next shift


Random now have "trends" And random alows one to "know" something about them...
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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby slymstar on Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:20 pm

yes, everyone has "bad luck" rolling sometimes, but lets be serious. It determines the outcome of too many games, when it should be strategy and gameplay determining 90+%. What is really so difficult about randomly generating dice rolls, without the 1-6 random aggressiveness thrown in serving no good purpose, with realistic odds for each die being rolled? It gets frustrating and has driven me away from this game a few times now. I keep coming back and hoping there's been an improvement, but it doesn't change. It's really too bad, because it could be a great game series otherwise.
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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby RADAGA on Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:16 am

Classic:

Combat

Italy:

* 2
* 5
* 3

- vs -

Sardinia:

* 6
* 3

Combat

Italy:

* 5
* 5
* 4

- vs -

Sardinia:

* 5
* 6

Combat

Italy:

* 3
* 4
* 2

- vs -

Sardinia:

* 4
* 3
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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby RADAGA on Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:38 am

LOL! Miss 3 get 1, miss another 2, get 1 = average 2 to 7 to win a 3x1

Combat
Cairo:
* 4
* 3
* 3
- vs -
Nairobi:
* 4
Combat
Cairo:
* 4
* 2
* 5
- vs -
Nairobi:
* 5
Combat
Cairo:
* 2
* 1
* 4
- vs -
Nairobi:
* 4
Combat
Cairo:
* 5
* 5
* 6
- vs -
Nairobi:
* 5

NEXT

Combat
Nairobi:
* 2
* 3
* 3
- vs -
Cape Town:
* 6

Combat
Nairobi:
* 4
* 2
* 2
- vs -
Cape Town:
* 4

Combat
Nairobi:
* 3
* 6
* 1
- vs -
Cape Town:
* 2
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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby Timminz on Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:49 pm

Please stop cherry-picking results. If you're going to post your rolls, post them all, not just the turns you didn't like.
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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby RADAGA on Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:05 am

Timminz wrote:Please stop cherry-picking results. If you're going to post your rolls, post them all, not just the turns you didn't like.


So if one day I get a streak of 20 failed 3x1 I cannot post about it?
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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby The Neon Peon on Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:54 am

RADAGA wrote:
Timminz wrote:Please stop cherry-picking results. If you're going to post your rolls, post them all, not just the turns you didn't like.


So if one day I get a streak of 20 failed 3x1 I cannot post about it?


Basically, no. You don't post here every day, but you play once a day. And it just so happens that you only care to notify us of every bad roll you get.

Newsflash: everyone gets bad rolls. But all the rolls you are getting in between these posts balance those out and end up at average.

Download the dice analyzer plugin and post that.
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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby RADAGA on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:48 am

I did, for several weeks, showing a clear unbalance at the results, yet no one cares.

whatever, today 20x11 end 2x5 lost 18, killed 6 - usual results.

OH, and I am not complaining or blaming the defeats on bad dice. I catually won the previous two games I posted about. It is merely a quest for the truth.

I think a streak of 20 3x1 losses is something worth posting, This thing is expected to be so rare no one would actually see one.

0,000000028679720 % thats one in five billion.

Just as a matter of comparison:

1 : 280,000 thats the chance of being hit by lightning

you should be hit 18.000 times by lightning before getting a 20 streak of losses on a 3x1

I am 35. I have never been hit by lightning - I play on CC for about 1,5 years, I have had several dice that should happen fewer times than 1:280.000

The average out argument also is a fallacy. you can have a week of bad results and a week of good results, it averages out but it is not, by any chance, random.
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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby Timminz on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:10 am

RADAGA wrote:The average out argument also is a fallacy. you can have a week of bad results and a week of good results, it averages out but it is not, by any chance, random.


So, you can determine a pattern, can you? Predict some rolls maybe?

Random =/= Fair
Random =/= Even

The problem is not with the dice. The problem is in your head.
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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby RADAGA on Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:12 pm

Timminz wrote:
RADAGA wrote:The average out argument also is a fallacy. you can have a week of bad results and a week of good results, it averages out but it is not, by any chance, random.


So, you can determine a pattern, can you? Predict some rolls maybe?

Random =/= Fair
Random =/= Even

The problem is not with the dice. The problem is in your head.


Unpredictable =/= Random

Think about God - he is all knowing, meaning every thing is already fixed in a path to happen (or not)

Can you predict the future? Given someone (God) knows what it will happen, it is not random, yet you cannot predict it.
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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby Timminz on Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:22 pm

RADAGA wrote:
Timminz wrote:
RADAGA wrote:The average out argument also is a fallacy. you can have a week of bad results and a week of good results, it averages out but it is not, by any chance, random.


So, you can determine a pattern, can you? Predict some rolls maybe?

Random =/= Fair
Random =/= Even

The problem is not with the dice. The problem is in your head.


Unpredictable =/= Random

Think about God - he is all knowing, meaning every thing is already fixed in a path to happen (or not)

Can you predict the future? Given someone (God) knows what it will happen, it is not random, yet you cannot predict it.


KMFDM!!!

You've just proved that nothing can ever be random, because god knows....

Oh wait. There is no god. I guess the dice are still random, and you still just can't quite come to terms with how random numbers don't always work the way you expect them to.

The dice don't need to be changed. Your expectations do.
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Re: 'all new' intensity cubes complaints (merged)

Postby RADAGA on Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:17 am

Yeah, for instance, I should expect things likewhat just happened> 6x1 - lost five armies then 9x3 - lost six, killed none, then 6x1 - lost 3, finally killed 1.

so lost three 3x2 then seven 3x1 in a row

so, I threw 30 dice against 13 dice and managed to lose all of them.

Or that, that was expected

ROUND 1 - 2010-02-08 13:10:34 - RADAGA: LOL!!! 9x3 - lost all, killed none, 6x1, lost 3 before getting the land - very very "nice"

ROUND 3 - 2010-02-09 12:28:25 - RADAGA: yep. I just got on a 12x6 just to see it end in 3x3. It is amazing how the dice here are sometimes f*cked up

ROUND 5 - 2010-02-09 14:16:10 - RADAGA: 9x3 ... lost another six.
ROUND 5 - 2010-02-09 14:16:22 - RADAGA: whatever.... best of luck for you -

game over for me.....

Simple like that, thats something to be expected here.

One day I will have a flawless game to "average" this out, I am sure. I´ve learned random comes in streaks.... here.

Game 6425034 - I am dead on round three.... why? because not a single dice went right. I lost ALL and EVERY single attack I made. 3x1 3x2 2x2 you name it, I killed NONE
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