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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Gillipig on Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:10 pm

tkr4lf wrote:Anyway, what I'm saying is that we shouldn't be emulating MajCom, like, at all.

Who are "we"? Conquerclub is run through dictatorship, not democracy!
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Bruceswar on Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:24 pm

OliverFA wrote:
Gillipig wrote:To everyone's great surprise I can now report that we've hit a new low. 14433 souls.


14577 at the moment. Is that a small rise to continue going down? However now it's July and at this moment of the year the statement that "many people are on holiday" is true. I am interested to see if the trend will continue in September.



15475 results on 62 pages:


About 1000 up from last time. If the update pace keeps picking up steam then you will have more people coming back or sticking around. Lets see what happens going forward.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:50 am

15,541... up about 75 from last week.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Woodruff on Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:46 am

Dukasaur wrote:15,541... up about 75 from last week.


That's the multis from Nod Loyalist and barackattack. <chuckle>
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby fadedpsychosis on Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:39 pm

it may be people like me... I came back after a 4 year hiatus. I had honestly forgotten about this place, then randomly got an email from the site. Don't remember why I stopped coming in the 1st place, but I think my work blocked the site...
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby rdsrds2120 on Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:29 pm

fadedpsychosis wrote:it may be people like me... I came back after a 4 year hiatus. I had honestly forgotten about this place, then randomly got an email from the site. Don't remember why I stopped coming in the 1st place, but I think my work blocked the site...


Now you're back! Hooraoo!

I think lack's really kicked into gear lately. With more updates, etc., the community faith will surely be restored (or at least I'm hoping!)

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby fadedpsychosis on Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:56 pm

I do find it amusing the email said "You haven't been on Conquer Club for over 30 days"... when it's been 4 years. I've noticed a LOT more game features since 2008. They'd just implemented fog of war just before I left, so seeing the killer neutrals and nuclear spoils and auto-deploying regions etc is taking some getting used to
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby rdsrds2120 on Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:11 am

fadedpsychosis wrote:I do find it amusing the email said "You haven't been on Conquer Club for over 30 days"... when it's been 4 years. I've noticed a LOT more game features since 2008. They'd just implemented fog of war just before I left, so seeing the killer neutrals and nuclear spoils and auto-deploying regions etc is taking some getting used to


Yeah, I bet. The e-mail blast was a new thing, so that's the check it performs. If you want help learning new game types, I bet there are people in the Callouts forum that wouldn't mind helping :D

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby greenoaks on Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:21 am

google.com.au has CC at 18th
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby tzor on Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:25 am

And I've just come back as well after a long while not playing. It was mostly due to a number of technical reasons that partly had to do with CC but mostly with another (dog of a company) that has proven over time far worse in every way than here. That gave be the habbit of checking things twice a day which is what you need to do when you have a 24hr clock.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby TDK on Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:56 pm

I got that friendly lil' email too, and I'm frankly shocked at the sheer volume of changes that have been made since my last visit. Trench warfare? Really? That's not even Risk! I love it though, so many new ways to outfox those overconfident captains.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby 72o on Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:10 pm

TDK wrote:I got that friendly lil' email too, and I'm frankly shocked at the sheer volume of changes that have been made since my last visit. Trench warfare? Really? That's not even Risk! I love it though, so many new ways to outfox those overconfident captains.


Add me to the list of people who came back because of the email, after a more than 2 year hiatus. I'm happy to see Trench Warfare, or "Adjacent Attacks" as we had dubbed it in 2010 in the suggestions phase, or "No Plowing" which was what we called it when we used to play using real dice and an actual game board.

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby TDK on Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:33 pm

That's just a temporary problem, I'm sure. Hey, maybe we should start a tournament for people who read the email. ;)
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby OliverFA on Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:45 am

I hope the trend continues going up
Welcoming the long awaited Trench Warfare Setting (Previously Adjacent Attacks).

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby TeeGee on Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:35 pm

Dukasaur wrote:15,541... up about 75 from last week.


15,543.. still going up
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby _sabotage_ on Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:00 pm

iPhone or droid compatible and CC hits 100k + users.

The thing is it isnt too bad on an iPad, or iPhone at the moment. Taking the turns is a little tricky on the phone and would nt play speed or freestyle games on it. It does need improvement with how the map is viewed and controls handled. Data usage is actually quite small as is. And when I write gl it automatically inputs "go" so I look like an asshole sometimes, but in general it needs little improvement to be acceptable. The main thing is the presence to get people to see it and smooth funtionality.

I have loads of games on my phone and when you are linked up through those sites you already have a card linked up to them and you start spending money on them. CC could get loads of paying customers, loads of future conquerors and loads of dicks like me too I guess.

Right now there is a conquerclub app which basically signs you in so you don't need to push login and then slows everything slightly down by being an interfering step.

Then we will have a conquerclub all out war. That will be fun :lol:
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby _sabotage_ on Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:12 pm

In game mode: (hide game heading to bring map flush with site heading)

1. Start turn button mid bottom of the map.
2. At the moment the controls are a little unwieldy with an iPad. Using the left and the right panels to improve troop control would make it a mobile game and not just a PC game. In doing so a way to match PC speed should be met in troop movement. This means more options spread over a larger distance in the right and left panels. Not the tiny buttons as for the PC site.

Small changes that could be used to make a mobile site.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby natty dread on Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:48 am

_sabotage_ wrote:iPhone or android compatible and CC hits 100k + users.


ftfy.

no one uses iCrap anymore (except for hipsters, and we don't want hipsters here)
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby TDK on Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:01 am

Then you'll be disappointed to learn even the hipsters have moved to android...
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby darth emperor on Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:00 pm

Following this thread viewtopic.php?f=6&t=103526 we can see:

Conquerclub $169,614 on 12/2009
Today $86,484

LandGrab $24,630 on 12/2009
Today $13,000

So the question is, till which point is CC's fault? maybe is just that Conquer games are not longer in trend.
I remember that at that time, facebook also had their own version. And I'm pretty sure you could find
few commercials of the board game called Risk.
Or maybe LandGrab is making the same mistakes as CC. I haven't been there, so I can't say anything about that site. Anyone can tell something of what's going there?

And following this thread
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=118810&p=2621358#p2621358

Conquerclub has improved from 7.3 on Jan 2010 to 7.5 today. But is not longer the first one....
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Gillipig on Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:47 pm

darth emperor wrote:Following this thread viewtopic.php?f=6&t=103526 we can see:

Conquerclub $169,614 on 12/2009
Today $86,484

LandGrab $24,630 on 12/2009
Today $13,000

So the question is, till which point is CC's fault? maybe is just that Conquer games are not longer in trend.
I remember that at that time, facebook also had their own version. And I'm pretty sure you could find
few commercials of the board game called Risk.
Or maybe LandGrab is making the same mistakes as CC. I haven't been there, so I can't say anything about that site. Anyone can tell something of what's going there?

And following this thread
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=118810&p=2621358#p2621358

Conquerclub has improved from 7.3 on Jan 2010 to 7.5 today. But is not longer the first one....


This is actually what I've been saying quite a long time. CC is not losing ground to other RISK inspired sites. It's still by far the best site of it's kind. But it needs to be competitive not just in respect to other pretty much identical sites in terms of theme, it also needs to stay competitive towards other strategy based gaming sites. And that it has completely failed at. Too few updates from the site owner the last four years (which on the internet is an eternity) has rendered it behind the curve.
The possibility that the decline is inveitable must also be seriously taken into account. But you can't say lack has done everything ha can to stay competitive. I'd say he's done everything to not stay competitive. It's only recently that we've started to see some improvements to the site. Far from enough improvements however.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby _sabotage_ on Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:37 am

The computer brought us the Internet, tablets and 4g phones bring the Internet with us.

Hipsters, they deride. Well I'm a paying hipster. And I think zynga tried to go public for 20,000,000,000.00. And this site is worth a good years wage. To be honest, I wonder how these guys feed their kids from this site. Shit, the main guy is in Montreal and its fucking cold in winter there, if I read about some less fortunate tiny Tim there, I blame this sites decline.

Hipsters have droids and iPhones alike and I'm sure no one from Storm8 is worried about winter.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Gillipig on Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:58 am

TeeGee wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:15,541... up about 75 from last week.


15,543.. still going up


But now it's 15,131. Maybe the decline starts early this year. That would be sad lol.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby cairnswk on Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:37 am

You know, perhaps we should stop this decline counting and get on with helping to ensure that CC stays alive.
There is a such a thing as a psychological effect...if people see a decline in numbers then no doubt it will lead to it occuring.
It is possible to talk something up also, so let's get on with it.
How about something happy. :)
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Pirlo on Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:44 am

cairnswk wrote:You know, perhaps we should stop this decline counting and get on with helping to ensure that CC stays alive.
There is a such a thing as a psychological effect...if people see a decline in numbers then no doubt it will lead to it occuring.
It is possible to talk something up also, so let's get on with it.
How about something happy. :)


this is like lying to your patient thinking it's better for his health. this needs to be faced not ignored.
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