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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby frankiebee on Wed May 22, 2013 9:32 am

Bruceswar wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:I think since we used to complain about the old management not doing anything and the new management is doing something(it's pretty obvious the wind has changed), that we should give a reasonable amount of time before we continue with the crepe hanging. A year perhaps?

You've got to give it a chance, guys. It's not going to be an instant transformation, no matter what the change is.



CC is only a shell of what it used to be. I do not ever see it getting back to that point unless something really drastic happens.


And this is based on what? Only on the amount of players active in the last month. Who knows how realistic the number of 20.000 players was. Maybe 2000of them were multi's and 3000 new recruits who played a few games and quited. Bam, that's minus 5000, but in fact it's minus cheaters and people who never really contribitud to the game. Im not sure if it's possible to find out how many active people CC lost. I find it odd that the number of players went down by 30%, but the amount of games being played is still somewhat the same. You could say it's because people farm with 50 games on 1 setting, but that was also happening 2 years ago, so that shouldnt be a big influence.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Funkyterrance on Wed May 22, 2013 11:29 am

qwert wrote: Lets see next 6 month what will bring.

Fair enough. ;)

qwert wrote:Nov 1st: 14721 (new management come)
may 22: 13305
this its minus 1416 players

Maybe it's just like coming in after George W. Bush?

frankiebee wrote:I find it odd that the number of players went down by 30%, but the amount of games being played is still somewhat the same.

Good point.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby ljex on Wed May 22, 2013 6:54 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
frankiebee wrote:I find it odd that the number of players went down by 30%, but the amount of games being played is still somewhat the same.

Good point.


When you switch new games to the front page games take longer to fill...thus more waiting games its really simple.

What is the comparison of active games...that measures activity.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Funkyterrance on Wed May 22, 2013 9:08 pm

ljex wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
frankiebee wrote:I find it odd that the number of players went down by 30%, but the amount of games being played is still somewhat the same.

Good point.


When you switch new games to the front page games take longer to fill...thus more waiting games its really simple.

What is the comparison of active games...that measures activity.

The update of the waiting games list is way too recent to show any causal relationship though. Also, how do you know multi's aren't just leaving because they've been cracked down on more and more as CC matures. If every person had a multi and they dropped the multi account in fear of being banned, half the population would appear to be leaving. There are many things that could be causing the numbers to look a certain way.

It's really not that simple.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby ljex on Wed May 22, 2013 9:51 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
ljex wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
frankiebee wrote:I find it odd that the number of players went down by 30%, but the amount of games being played is still somewhat the same.

Good point.


When you switch new games to the front page games take longer to fill...thus more waiting games its really simple.

What is the comparison of active games...that measures activity.

The update of the waiting games list is way too recent to show any causal relationship though. Also, how do you know multi's aren't just leaving because they've been cracked down on more and more as CC matures. If every person had a multi and they dropped the multi account in fear of being banned, half the population would appear to be leaving. There are many things that could be causing the numbers to look a certain way.

It's really not that simple.


If you are honestly suggesting that such a steep decline in membership is as a result of a decrease in the number of people using multiple accounts you are sadly mistaken.

I very much doubt that more than 5% of premium members have a multi and most freemium members are not here long term.

Sure you can say its a possibility, but to suggest that it is more likely than people leaving for real life issues or the fact that they dont derive the same enjoyment from the site anymore is just ridiculous.

Its also possible that 5,000 cc members have sadly passed away over the last year, but I dont see people jumping at that being the reason for the decline.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Funkyterrance on Wed May 22, 2013 10:27 pm

ljex wrote:If you are honestly suggesting that such a steep decline in membership is as a result of a decrease in the number of people using multiple accounts you are sadly mistaken.

I very much doubt that more than 5% of premium members have a multi and most freemium members are not here long term.

Sure you can say its a possibility, but to suggest that it is more likely than people leaving for real life issues or the fact that they dont derive the same enjoyment from the site anymore is just ridiculous.

Its also possible that 5,000 cc members have sadly passed away over the last year, but I dont see people jumping at that being the reason for the decline.

I'm suggesting that there are many possible reasons for the decline and we shouldn't just assume that the current decline is indicative of what's happening right now with CC. It could be slowing down and about to reverse for all we know.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed May 22, 2013 11:20 pm

frankiebee wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:I think since we used to complain about the old management not doing anything and the new management is doing something(it's pretty obvious the wind has changed), that we should give a reasonable amount of time before we continue with the crepe hanging. A year perhaps?

You've got to give it a chance, guys. It's not going to be an instant transformation, no matter what the change is.



CC is only a shell of what it used to be. I do not ever see it getting back to that point unless something really drastic happens.


And this is based on what? Only on the amount of players active in the last month. Who knows how realistic the number of 20.000 players was. Maybe 2000of them were multi's and 3000 new recruits who played a few games and quited. Bam, that's minus 5000, but in fact it's minus cheaters and people who never really contribitud to the game. Im not sure if it's possible to find out how many active people CC lost. I find it odd that the number of players went down by 30%, but the amount of games being played is still somewhat the same. You could say it's because people farm with 50 games on 1 setting, but that was also happening 2 years ago, so that shouldnt be a big influence.



it is very simple... Think back to 2006 when CC started. Was there Facebook? Sure but not near as big as it is now. How about Cell phones? Most people have flip phones or some crap phone with no net. Twitter? Instagram? Other online things, such as Xbox 360, etc. Point is the world has changed a ton since 2006. People want instant everything these days. Gone are the days when the average person will wait 24 hours for a turn, unless they are already addicted. There are a ton of sites now where people can play straight away with little to no wait. CC is fighting an uphill battle and not helping itself by being slow with the updates. CC would have take drastic measures to keep the people staying and not leaving.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby jsnyder748 on Thu May 23, 2013 12:40 am

I quit. what's the number now?
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby iAmCaffeine on Thu May 23, 2013 4:13 am

After a message I received this morning, I'm sorely disappointed in certain.. parts of CC.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Agent 86 on Thu May 23, 2013 4:55 am

I've noticed quite a few new red question marks, so some things must be working....
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Qwert on Thu May 23, 2013 8:48 am

jsnyder748 wrote:I quit. what's the number now?


wow drop below 13300
its now 13298
Bruceswar wrote:
frankiebee wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:I think since we used to complain about the old management not doing anything and the new management is doing something(it's pretty obvious the wind has changed), that we should give a reasonable amount of time before we continue with the crepe hanging. A year perhaps?

You've got to give it a chance, guys. It's not going to be an instant transformation, no matter what the change is.



CC is only a shell of what it used to be. I do not ever see it getting back to that point unless something really drastic happens.


And this is based on what? Only on the amount of players active in the last month. Who knows how realistic the number of 20.000 players was. Maybe 2000of them were multi's and 3000 new recruits who played a few games and quited. Bam, that's minus 5000, but in fact it's minus cheaters and people who never really contribitud to the game. Im not sure if it's possible to find out how many active people CC lost. I find it odd that the number of players went down by 30%, but the amount of games being played is still somewhat the same. You could say it's because people farm with 50 games on 1 setting, but that was also happening 2 years ago, so that shouldnt be a big influence.



it is very simple... Think back to 2006 when CC started. Was there Facebook? Sure but not near as big as it is now. How about Cell phones? Most people have flip phones or some crap phone with no net. Twitter? Instagram? Other online things, such as Xbox 360, etc. Point is the world has changed a ton since 2006. People want instant everything these days. Gone are the days when the average person will wait 24 hours for a turn, unless they are already addicted. There are a ton of sites now where people can play straight away with little to no wait. CC is fighting an uphill battle and not helping itself by being slow with the updates. CC would have take drastic measures to keep the people staying and not leaving.

This its very true, if you want to fight for customers, you need to implement more and more attractive updates, and fast.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby BGtheBrain on Thu May 23, 2013 8:51 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:After a message I received this morning, I'm sorely disappointed in certain.. parts of CC.

I sent that nude pic to YOU!?!?!?
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby iAmCaffeine on Thu May 23, 2013 9:02 am

BGtheBrain wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:After a message I received this morning, I'm sorely disappointed in certain.. parts of CC.

I sent that nude pic to YOU!?!?!?


That would actually have been so much better than what I received. :lol:
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu May 23, 2013 10:19 am

I don't play any other risk sites so I have no idea how they compare to CC in regard to instant gratification. If this really is a big issue, yeah something needs to be done to stay competitive.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Gillipig on Thu May 23, 2013 1:48 pm

qwert wrote:wow drop below 13300
its now 13298

Consider yourself beaten! 13290

Surely you can't beat that!!!



















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