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Joining a 1v1 game second is an advantage!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:33 am
by sdh
So I had this idea that joining a 1v1 game second means you are more likely to get the first turn. When I played lots of tournaments I always tried to join the game second, especially if the game was manual deploy. I know it's suppose to be random but I don't believe it :lol:

I'm going for the gold trench medal in the easiest way possible playing 1v1 speed games on Luxembourg. I have made all the games I've played so far and I am counting how many times I play first or second and these are the results so far:

Games played: 100
Play first: 34
Play second: 66
:shock:

Has anyone else found this???

Re: Joining a 1v1 game second is an advantage!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:05 am
by LFAW
I'll do some research ;) lol

Re: Joining a 1v1 game second is an advantage!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:11 am
by maxfaraday
I haven't keep track but that's what I think too. The player who joins often starts.

Re: Joining a 1v1 game second is an advantage!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:13 am
by sdh
I will update my lux stats when I have completed a 100 lol, and will add anyone elses stats to the first post

Re: Joining a 1v1 game second is an advantage!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:13 am
by chang50
sdh wrote:I will update my lux stats when I have completed a 100 lol, and will add anyone elses stats to the first post


Well I nearly only play 1v1,games started by me and I had the impression I went first slightly more often than my opponents,no stats to back this up.If you are correct it means I have won 58% of games going second more often,I should award myself a medal lol. I could use some..

Re: Joining a 1v1 game second is an advantage!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:19 am
by sdh
chang50 wrote:
sdh wrote:I will update my lux stats when I have completed a 100 lol, and will add anyone elses stats to the first post


Well I nearly only play 1v1,games started by me and I had the impression I went first slightly more often than my opponents,no stats to back this up.If you are correct it means I have won 58% of games going second more often,I should award myself a medal lol. I could use some..


I am glad it works out for you! lol. out of the 100 games i've started 34, and won 44 games

Re: Joining a 1v1 game second is an advantage!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:39 am
by HighlanderAttack
I tracked it one time and had about the same 33 percent of starts--I was joining second though. That was with a sample size of about 120 games.

Re: Joining a 1v1 game second is an advantage!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:49 am
by Crazyirishman
Joining 2nd is an advantage if there's fog because you get to see the board first, getting the 1st turn is a bonus because you can attack before the opponent looks at the board and take a bonus without them being able to know if they had troops there or not if you play it right.

Re: Joining a 1v1 game second is an advantage!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:14 am
by laughingcavalier
Crazyirishman wrote:Joining 2nd is an advantage if there's fog because you get to see the board first, getting the 1st turn is a bonus because you can attack before the opponent looks at the board and take a bonus without them being able to know if they had troops there or not if you play it right.

For true? Thanks for the top tip Irish!

Re: Joining a 1v1 game second is an advantage!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:14 pm
by Crazyirishman
laughingcavalier wrote:
Crazyirishman wrote:Joining 2nd is an advantage if there's fog because you get to see the board first, getting the 1st turn is a bonus because you can attack before the opponent looks at the board and take a bonus without them being able to know if they had troops there or not if you play it right.

For true? Thanks for the top tip Irish!


You know, from time to time, I like to help out generals with basic strategy, as my words of CC wisdom are renowned across the forums.

Re: Joining a 1v1 game second is an advantage!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:46 pm
by Pedronicus
laughingcavalier wrote:For true? Thanks for the top tip Irish!


He didn't come by that Lieutenant rank by accident you know ;)

Re: Joining a 1v1 game second is an advantage!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:59 am
by Gilligan
viewtopic.php?t=25910

For those of you that don't want to read it: 193 games, red went first 98, green went first 95.

Re: Joining a 1v1 game second is an advantage!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:19 am
by Swifte
Unless it's a round limits game... then joining second gets you a loss in the event of a tie!

Re: Joining a 1v1 game second is an advantage!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:24 pm
by Gabriel13
In FS, joining second is always good.