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who is winning?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:46 am
by mc05025
At a nuclear spoil game (and lets say standard), if a player nuke and eliminate all the remaining players of the game including himself who is the winner?

Re: who is winning?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:52 am
by SirSebstar
this has been tested before.
if you nuke 3 players with 3 spoils, then the order of how/when the spoils were gotten shows who dies first.
from old to newest.
The spoils are already listed in the order that they were collect/and can be cashed..

this means that if your LAST territory is not the last spoil, you could give the win to anther player

Re: who is winning?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:53 am
by Forza AZ
So lets say a player has Spoils named A, B and C (listed in that order), then the player that hold region C will win the game.
It doesn't matter in what order you select the Spoils you want to cash. The order in which they are displayed decides which region is nuked first, second and third.

Re: who is winning?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:54 pm
by agentcom
Wow, that would be a crazy way to end the game. Related question ... Who gets the points in a terminator game?

Seems like player taking the action (playing the cards) should get the win (from the OP) and the points (from my related question). I'm sure this occurrence is too rare to expect a fix to be provided, but it does seem to me to be the wrong way of doing things.

Re: who is winning?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:40 pm
by JBlombier
I would think, but am not sure, that if a player for instance cashes A, B and C as spoils and has B as his last region, that he gains the points from the player who was on A (and has that as his last region). But... The player who has region C (and has that as his last region) will gain the points from the casher (who has region B), because player B has eliminated himself and can't get his own points. I'm interested to see if others agree.

Re: who is winning?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:07 pm
by SirSebstar
JBlombier wrote:I would think, but am not sure, that if a player for instance cashes A, B and C as spoils and has B as his last region, that he gains the points from the player who was on A (and has that as his last region). But... The player who has region C (and has that as his last region) will gain the points from the casher (who has region B), because player B has eliminated himself and can't get his own points. I'm interested to see if others agree.

only in terminator, but yes

Re: who is winning?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:56 am
by Jippd
I thought this was tested before and neutral player earned the points when someone nuked themselves out in a terminator? Meaning the points disappeared

Re: who is winning?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:17 am
by SirSebstar
Jippd wrote:I thought this was tested before and neutral player earned the points when someone nuked themselves out in a terminator? Meaning the points disappeared

most certainly NOT.
it is a (more or less ) closed system of points. if you take points from somebody to give them at another. This is why deleting players presents a problem
(disappearing players is not,)

Re: who is winning?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:18 am
by darth emperor
Jippd wrote:I thought this was tested before and neutral player earned the points when someone nuked themselves out in a terminator? Meaning the points disappeared

Nope, its tested and the winning player gets the points. Just like when someone misses 3 turns in a terminator and no one takes his troops

EDIT: SirSebstar was faster