rhp 1 wrote:LOL...
my analogy was actually awful.. drunk and tired at the time and forgot I typed it... the simple fact is, ranching/farming is a definitional construct of this site... I start games with settings that I like to play and that's pretty much it.. your argument seems to be that people really shouldn't do that, because it's possible (or possibly likely) that people who join them (in a public setting of their own free will) might not have the skills or tools to put up a decent fight... My only response would be, so? How can I possibly control who joins my games? I start the games I enjoy playing, someone joins, I win... sorry? I'm not going to stop making them because the likelihood of a good fs player joining has diminished over recent times... I wish that wasn't the case.... It really is a ridiculous thing to argue about.. but I (shockingly, no sarcasm here) understand your position...
Yeah, I'm not out for blood either, tbh. The only reason I started the whole explanation is that people were objecting to the idea that these types of games were opportunistic to farming which I felt I had to defend. I don't think I ever claimed that only deliberate farmers play these types of games. I just feel that if someone continues to create these games knowing that odds are, they are going to be at least passively farming points by doing so, they can at least submit to this fact. I'm basically just exercising my right to call a spade a spade.
I guess the problem with this is that FARMING. Is illegal on this site. That means we are cheating even if we are doing so "passively." Therefore I have to disagree and just say that its as if a map was created that is too hard for anyone but me to understand so I mop up the competition on just standard 24 hour games. Am I farming? no. I'm just better than everyone on the site. Am I so called "passively farming?" still yes. So that is why I take issue with your claim. Is it farming for guys like Kaskavel to play Hive 1v1 against people? no it really isn't, they are good players. Is it passively farming? Yes, they don't have many people their skill level. Basically what it comes down to is your position puts the BLAME on the good players and say because they win, they are farming. Instead I put the blame on the other players. People don't want to take the time, energy, and brain power to learn the way that ljex, rhp, Krapht, fusibaseball, and some others play in freestyle settings. You can't blame them for being good. Thats what Politics do to successful people.
thats for another thread.
But really you have to realize at some point or another, whatever you feel like calling it, it isn't the fault of hte good freestyle players for destroying every opponent. If its an open match and they don't foe every good player, then they aren't farming. Plain and simple. They can be beat, and if you are tired of people's "passive farming" its time for you to work your butt off to become as good as they are. You think they bought their new internet system hopped on and won games? heck no. They had to learn like anyone else.
Being good at 1v1 freestyle speed, or any other type, takes dedication and skill. I don't play those games as much or as often as the pros do, so I'm not as good. Its that simple, they are better than me. Do they "passively farm?" sure, but get a different name. Farming is against the site rules, freestyle speed players don't do that, they are experts at a game type, just like anyone else.